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Killington Stage Race

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Ok understood. I can't leave on friday until afternoon. I will pass on this :(
Hey @GiacomoVischi I will be driving myself up and have space for one more if you want a ride up! Happy to leave whenever - Friday afternoon would be better for me as well. 
I think lodging will come out to around $100 per night per person. 
This is coming together at the last minute for me, and I'm excited. 
Results?
Fun race weekend at KSR. The same organizers do GMSR so you know it's a good one. I'd love to go back in 2018 with some teammates. 

Stage 1 - Circuit Race
Two laps on a rolling 29km (18mi) circuit. Up for grabs: an intermediate sprint; two KOMs, one on each lap; and GC time bonuses at a new finish line. Apparently the old finish at the bottom of a nearly 4km rolling descent was dangerously fast. The new finish line was just past the top of two steps, 1km climbs topping out at a mild 5.2%. The racing was stop-and-go. Everyone knocked back the pace after the intermediate sprints and the KOMs. It was clear that riders were holding back in anticipation of the big stage tomorrow. Also clear: some doofy riders dangerous in a peloton. At one point my sixth sense told me to move even further up. About twenty seconds later there was a crash I would've been caught behind. (I think Jeff knows where to find a video because unfortunately, one of his housemates, a Rapha rider, went down. Race over.) I cruised into the finish with the bunch, 17th place. One RBNY guy led out another for the win. My maximum heartrate was 200 bpm, when I climbed near the front of the group for the KOM, thinking there might be a split. There wasn't, and I didn't get any points. But my average heartrate--162 bpm, near the very bottom of my tempo zone--was more indicative of the race pace. Want to know more? Here it is on Strava

Stage 2 - Road Race
This was the big one. 97km, 1386m of vertical spread mostly across three climbs: one at the beginning, one in the middle, and one at the end. We set at out a mild pace, with a long descent leading into the only intermediate sprint. A few attempted breakaways, but none of them could attract enough riders to make them dangerous without the peloton closing the gap.

We turned onto the middle climb as one group, when the pace exploded. Steepest pitches first, 14%. I anticipated that this climb would split the field. Feeling good and determined not to get caught out, I climbed at the front, putting in a couple multi-minute intervals in my VO2 zone. The climb to the KOM took 16:34. And that wasn't all! All said and done, after about 28 minutes of mostly uphill, the slopes had whittled down the field of 60 to maybe 14 riders. If we had kept the pace high, I had the legs to stick with it, but not enough to head to the front and drive it myself. As it happened, we slowed down enough for a big re-grouping. That was disappointing.

Next up: a small "steady gravel climb." Throughout the stages, I'd noticed how uncomfortable riders were with rough surfaces. I'd resolved that if the gravel was at all thick, I'd attack. But it was actually quite smooth. One rider escaped. Then the race entered a stalemate, as we spun along on valley roads towards the final test of the day. The lone breakaway rider had as much as two minutes, but it wouldn't be enough.

The last 17km of my race did not go according to plan. I was hurting, for sure, but I also made a couple mistakes. First, I started the climb too far back. And when I was dangling back there, I misread the race. This is what I told myself: "These guys are gunning for the KOM up ahead. Instead of going deep into the red to follow them, I'll peg my effort just above threshold, catch the stragglers in time for the short descent and flats that follow the KOM, and come onto the final pitches with better legs." I ended up riding the rest of the race alone, at just above my threshold. I did catch some people, but nobody was in shape to come along. I ended up losing over six minutes to the winner, 27th place. Alas, my big goal for the weekend was a Top 10 finish on this stage. Still a fun race though, the longest I've done this year, and my toughest day in the saddle as measured by TSS. Strava link.  

Stage 3
17.1 km of false flat, basically. Without TT equipment, I had low expectations for my stage results. My goal was to ride well enough to crack the Top 20 in GC. To do that, I'd need to make up almost two minutes. Very unlikely, but I hoped some people ahead of me wouldn't really be racing. Not really! I rode a fine TT, with a negative split (but in fairness the second half was flatter). I feel I could've sprinted harder in the final kilometer, but oh well. I finished three minutes behind the winner, for 37th place. No change in GC. Strava.







MaxThorn said:
Fun race weekend at KSR. The same organizers do GMSR so you know it's a good one. I'd love to go back in 2018 with some teammates. 

Stage 1 - Circuit Race
At one point my sixth sense told me to move even further up. About twenty seconds later there was a crash I would've been caught behind. (I think Jeff knows where to find a video because unfortunately, one of his housemates, a Rapha rider, went down. Race over.) 


Good spidey sense! When it's that wide you don't want to be at the back.

Around 19:40 look for the dude in the pink gloves. Did he grab his own front brake?
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtKSWUiVFkc&feature=youtu.be
Jules said:
MaxThorn said:
Fun race weekend at KSR. The same organizers do GMSR so you know it's a good one. I'd love to go back in 2018 with some teammates. 

Stage 1 - Circuit Race
At one point my sixth sense told me to move even further up. About twenty seconds later there was a crash I would've been caught behind. (I think Jeff knows where to find a video because unfortunately, one of his housemates, a Rapha rider, went down. Race over.) 


Good spidey sense! When it's that wide you don't want to be at the back.

Around 19:40 look for the dude in the pink gloves. Did he grab his own front brake?
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtKSWUiVFkc&feature=youtu.be
The guy with the pink gloves seemed to lose control of his bike while adjusting his sunglasses.
That wasn't even the back. More like mid-pack. But yeah, that's the crash I'm talking about. I agree that it looks like he suddenly decided to strangle his front brake lever but...why? I watched it a few times now and still can't make much sense of it. 

Anyway, KSR is cool and next year I'd like to see how well I could do there if I trained more specifically for it. Like doing some lung-busting Perkins repeats, getting at least one almost-three-hour race in my legs before this one, and practicing TTs with some clip-on aero bars. 
He touches the wheel in front of him
eloy said:
He touches the wheel in front of him
You know, I think you're right. 
On the Waitlist for Cat 4/5... Anyone else manage to register!?
Day 1 of KSR in the books. I'm in the masters 4/5 and Erik's racing 4/5 open. My first time racing this course.

We rolled out into bright, dry weather, 70s, pretty great conditions overall. I stayed up front to try and contest the first KOM and had a great position, but unfortunately not the legs. Today's course is one for punchy climbers and sprinters. After going backwards through the field pretty dramatically I found myself chasing back on. Tricky part of the course profile here ... tough to recover on the rollers after the KOM, then there's a rapid crashy descent into a sharp right turn. Gaps start to open up out of that corner ... you want to be in the front 15 wheels coming down that hill, not needing to recover and still chasing as I was. I managed to get back on and paced the second lap better, finishing with the field.

I didn't get to chat with Erik, but apparently the 4/5 open field was HOT. They finished a full 8m33 faster at a toasty 24.5mph average, and apparently there was a nasty crash on that aforementioned descent.

Tomorrow's climbing hopefully suits me better, I haven't done the East Mountain Road climb, but it looks like a beast. Somehow we're getting a 20 degree temperature drop overnight to mix things up even more. One things for sure I'm gonna be too hot or too cold :)



Day 2 of KSR. Another bruiser!

Morning weather was overcast in the low 50s. After riding cold, wet and slow the last two weekends, figured this time around I'd rather be too hot, and was one of three riders in the field sporting full length leg warmers. No regrets!

We rode up Rt. 4 at a surprisingly solid pace, turning right onto Rt 110 with one rider already off the front. We chased downhill, caught him, then a couple miles later a group of four rolled off the front during some rollers. We kept them in sight but with the first KOM coming up nobody was working too hard.

The KOM climb starts immediately after a right turn onto North Rd, with the steepest pitches coming in the first mile. The polka dot jersey set the pace and made short work of the gap to the break. I worked hard to stay with the lead group, and soon found myself hoping things would level out. They didn't, and I blew up. I attached on to a large chase group as they came through, but was struggling again on the rollers just after the KOM, and before we had crested found myself well and truly OTB.

Riding tempo into a headwind was no fun, especially watching the field inch further ahead at every turn. After 10 minutes I sat up and resigned myself to a solo ride and hot bath.

A minute or two later I woke up to someone shouting "speed up" as a chase group of about ten riders came powering through. Honestly at that point I was mostly focused on the idea of a hot bath, so it was tough to get my head and legs back into action, but joined the group and we worked together really well together. Fifteen minutes later we saw a line of cars up ahead, and then the back of the main field. We caught back on just before the pace lifted once again as the front riders chased down yet another breakaway.

Turning onto East Mtn I knew my legs were toast and paced myself up the climb, finishing the day 8 minutes behind the winner but sporting a shiny new power curve at the very least. Vermont races are great, but damn it's hard to train for them in NYC!
So apologies for the delay - I didn't bring a laptop and spent my time off the saddle consuming everything in sight.

Day 1 of KSR Mens 4/5 Open:

The first lap of the 18 mile circuit was fairly casual with just one crash directly in front of me on Route 4.  There was no on-coming traffic so I was able to hop the yellows and get around.  Now the second lap was when the leaders really picked up the pace going up 100A.  I was able to hang on the back then heard the aforementioned crash behind me on the STEEP 100A shoot before a 90 degree turn back onto 100. The sound of cracking carbon fiber isn't very comforting...about 2 miles later two ambulances were heading in the opposite direction - hope everyone was OK. 

About 5 miles later we had to make a left up Route 4 to the finished after a lengthy decent.  There was a junior directly in front of me who took the left turn a little wide and ran directly into the guard rail taking out another rider.  It all happens so fast, not even sure how I managed to steer clear of this one... Luckily I sprinted back up to the pack and finished at Skyship with the rest at 1:33:17

Day 2: 61 Miles and just under 5,000 Vert

I thought my legs hurt during the Bear Mountain Classic...HA!
Apart from the aggressively paced climb right off the start going up Route 4, the first 20 miles were very manageable.  A few brave souls attempted to break off the front but were soon caught.  Suffer city started promptly after turning onto North Road.  Over-confident with tunnel vision, I tried blasting up the climb with the fittest, only to blow up and reach in my back pocket for gels.

Lost sight of the front field, but there were plenty of other riders who had just visited hell with me.  A young rider and myself exchanged pulls for roughly 15 miles trying to catch the nearest group.  Going in and and out threshold, I started to loosen up after the exhausting climb.  We reached another group of 6 and began a paceline along Route 4 into the horrid East Mtn road. I experienced déjà vu going up this climb..only a little worse.  All in, I finished roughly 10 min behind the pack at 3:05.

Day 3: 11 Mile TT

I probably should have warmed up for another 30 minutes because my legs were STIFF.  First half of the TT my legs really did not want to cooperate.  Wasn't until I passed Skyship on Route 4 (mile 6) that I felt a rhythm.  Finished just over 28 minutes.  I could not agree more with Niall - lets find some more hills!  Suffering aside, this race is absolutely gorgeous and I would really like to give it another shot next year with some teammates!  
So I registered for this cause I'm just a glutton for punishment.  Also adore the Green Mountains...Let me know if any other souls are interested!
I'm 99% sure i'm in for this one. I don't I'll be around for Bear Mountain but this race sounds like a lot of fun. It would be cool to make a weekend out of it with everyone! 
What date is this?
May 25-27th (Memorial Day weekend) 
Officially signed up!
Anyone else in for this bad boy? I'm trying to work out housing accommodations 
Keen but need to talk to chat to the chief. Will let you know ASAP...
Who wouldn't love a lovely weekend in the Green Mountains?  
@RichFreeman tell the wifey that you have to test those super fast tires on Green Mountains.
@RichFreeman are you gonna change your last name in to "notfreeman" better be buttering the chief with champagne and fine dining for this  :p
 
alright we are in (royal we). 
Debating on sending this one. Someone convince me it’ll be worth it for a cat 5 race
It'll be fun! or something like it! Hopefully! 
You're welcome to stay in our Air BnB (it has a hot tub if that persuades/ dissuades you at all). Only issue is you might have to get up there on our own as our ride up is full of people/bikes. 
@cpulvidente
It's a 4/5 Open so you'd be racing with us.  Price just went up to $265
https://www.bikereg.com/killington-stage-race
Get on it