Held on "Supercross" course. Led by Myles, Todd, Patrick.

Hey all - we have both members who are experienced and new to CX. Running a clinic at the Supercross course would allow us to hit some more advanced skills than sticking to Cunningham park. All skill levels would be addressed. If we do run a clinic up there there is likely to be a convoy of KCC cars going up allowing for everyone to get a ride. 

I love this idea. my one issue, where is the 'Hell Yeah!' response? I feel limited with only a yes and a no. 

Interested- but don't have a cross bike. What's the chances I could borrow/ somehow get my hands on one for the day?

Kristina Miele said:

Interested- but don't have a cross bike. What's the chances I could borrow/ somehow get my hands on one for the day?

Sorry for the delayed response here. I don't think borrowing a CX bike would be out of the question. First though post on some of the other more frequently visited threads to see if anyone has a spare rig to loan out in your size.

If that doesn't work, look into some of the local bike shops who have been known to rent CX bikes during the racing season. There is one in Manhattan, I think it is called NYC Velo?

Kristina,

you might be able to do most of this without a CX bike . If you have a set of MTB pedals you could slap those on your road bike and it allows you to practice the dismount/remount fun of CX. A mountain bike would work as well. Either would not be ideal but could get you through most of what we might encounter in a clinic.

Marc - how much deep mud/ rocky rooty CX race practicing do you think we're going to do?

Mountain Bike could be fine.

In any case, NYC Velo should be able to rent you a cyclocross bicycle:
http://www.nycvelo.com/tag/bike-rentals/

You'll need MTB pedals and shoes. I have a ton of spare SPDs if you need, happy to lend them to you.

--- as silly as it might sound... cyclocross is everything you want cycling to be. So best to go all in, just buy a bike today. Everything is gonna be amazing.

Dan, hard to know. Lots of ifs. I don't know what the club's minimum threshold is to pay for an Anthony Wayne park permit (or even if that weekend is available), but right now we've only got 6 + 3 mentors who have voted "yes." I know not everyone is on the forum who crosses...and that's sort of a problem...but there are a handful of regular crossers who do frequent the forum who have not responded. Anyway...

I will say that as I'm thinking about the days activities, based on our combined experiences (including attending the "Gold Standard" of all CX camps run by Adam Myerson's crew), mud riding wouldn't necessarily be one of the skill stations I would set up, however, if conditions allow for mud practice, then I'm sure an impromptu station could/would be set up.

I personally will not be able to attend (I'm committed to the NYS Crit Champs that weekend), but I will be working with Myles, Todd and Patrick to put together the program. "Campers" should (at least) expect to work on:

Mounting/dismounting
CX starts
Barriers
Proper shouldering technique
Off-camber down/up turns
Short climb run vs ride

There will be time for Q&A, before during and after all the skill stations. We won't necessarily have a separate discussion/lecture, but you should expect that whomever is leading running your skill station to explain why/what you are doing here or there.

As far as root riding. Again, if conditions and the course allow, then yes practicing root riding would be a nice addition. However, I think the fundamentals should be addressed/practiced first. And trust me as someone who spent literally hours mounting and dismounting his bike at the Myerson camp last year, even if you think you are good at this or that, you need the practice!

I'm sadly going to have to pass on this and keep training for GMSR. For anyone who's thinking about CX, this is a can't miss. Even if you've raced, you should still go -- you'll be rustier than you think. Better to work out the kinks now!  

I want to pretty badly, but don't think I can make it - both actually to the spot and pedaling more than 20 minutes.  Put me down as a hopeful maybe.

David Yang said:

I want to pretty badly, but don't think I can make it - both actually to the spot and pedaling more than 20 minutes.  Put me down as a hopeful maybe.

A good clinic will leave you tired, but not in the traditional way. It's not so much about getting a good workout in, as it is practicing skills. Of course there has to be practice race at the end of the day to ensure that everyone feels like they have a chance to put it all together and usually that's the thing that puts you over the edge! Still, don't let fitness levels hold you or anyone back. This is not about who's fit and who's not. This is about learning to corner, shoulder, etc.

@David Yang

You and I can battle for slowest tub of lard at the back. If I pedal more than 3 strokes these days, I start sweating something that resembles butter-flavored popcorn topping.

Thanks all for the advice! Unfortunately I spoke to soon, and will be away that weekend, but if anything changes please keep me in the loop for this or other clinics. I am definitely interested.

Very stoked on this. Happy to help out with set up/take down however possible. 

Brand new to CX practice. Any pre-req skills to practice before showing up? Dismount/remount?

Have zero car access, so I'd probably need to trade coffee/gas for transport in the KCC convoy to/from. 

No pre-req's required. Just be sure you have a bike that can ride on and off road. MTB's okay, but take those bar ends off. All skill levels welcomed.

The proposed location will be accessable via the LIRR, but if you are in Brooklyn, I would be surprised if you couldn't hitch a ride with someone.

Ooh if it is in Queens/LI, the chance that I can make it goes up!

Marc Bertucco said:

No pre-req's required. Just be sure you have a bike that can ride on and off road. MTB's okay, but take those bar ends off. All skill levels welcomed.

Marc is wrong, there are pre-req's they are as follows:

1) Desire to be awesome.
2) Desire to have a lot of fun on a bicycle.
3) Desire to learn the secrets of the beer hand-up.

if you are not prepared for these, you're not ready for cross (oh and that thing about having an appropriate bike for riding off-road, but that's less important than the other three).

Oh Dan, how we missed you. I see you are moving past the "base mile" phase of Foruming and into VO2 intervals.

Myles is going to be recon-ing an additional/alt location this weekend for the clinic/camp/beach blanket bingo-ing, so look for more of an official announcement early next week!

Okay, gang the official date is the 22nd. Click on over to the Cyclocross thread for details. Let me just say that this is going to be an awesome event. Myles, Todd and Patrick are some of the club's best crossers and all are great teachers too.

And even if you think, "I don't need this because [x]." The value of simply getting on your cross bike in cross conditions after a long time off, cannot be underestimated.

Anyway, I'm bummed to miss this, but if you can get away for the day on the 22nd, you will not be disappointed!

Relevant link here:
http://kissenacycling.vanillaforums.com/discussion/comment/78984/#Comment_78984

Relevant flyer here:
 

All.  

Regarding Dinner, here is the menu

http://sabrosamexicangrill.com/menu.html

(My personal favorite is whole wheat, quinoa, pinto beans, pulled pork, onions and peppers, tomato salsa, medium spicy sauce, a touch of sour cream and cheese.  But were not keeping notes)

Lets try to turn in an order by noon on friday the 21st.   I'll order saturday, for pickup near 6.   Usually a burrito is about 9-11$ depending on options. 

It can also be cool on the beach at night/dusk, a hoodie and jeans is not the worst idea ever.  

I am also realizing I don't have beach chairs.  deal with it. 

Regarding the clinic, it looks like two groups, beginner, and intermediate.  We will split up at the parking lot and go from there.   We will rotate instructors for each group, likely in one hour shifts, and cover a variety of topics.

Im thinking a sliight detour to scott cameron beach, effectively down the street from the first destination.   More conducive to hanging out, etc. 

Any specific topics people would like to cover, speak up.  Looking forward!
myles  

BUMP AROUND BUMP AROUND BUMP UP BUMP UP AND GET DOWN.  BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP.

People, THIS is one of the many perks you get for belonging to this wonderful club!  If you can make it, I highly suggest you do!

Myles

Do you want us to post our meal orders here of just collect them on Saturday morning?

PatrickG said:

Myles

Do you want us to post our meal orders here of just collect them on Saturday morning?

Patrick, could you post this on the cyclocross thread? I think Myles sees that one, but has trouble locating this thread.

Ummm..... Email me

Btw....everyone knows to take north sea road once they get ti Southampton right?

Https://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=jGQ-ISsDm8M. ?

Despite a late start, a good time was had by all