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Westwood CX

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https://www.bikereg.com/westwood-velo-cross-for-a-cure-for-kids-cross-race

I know it's "our" venue.  Any comments on how the course typically is, or how it's typically run?

I htink Patrick is going.  Anyone else?  I'm probably going.
I signed up but I'll likely miss. 
Done it a few times, it will use some of the same features --- like the ride/run up, the general ground feel will be the same. but otherwise the actual course has been less challenging/technical/interesting than when Myles does it.

I will not be able to be there.
Here's last year's course.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGrOWRf14ws

I am signed up for cat 5 at 9:20.  I have a ride back to Brooklyn w family but looking to share ride out to course with anyone that has room.

Thanks!
In addition to all the KCC racers, Myles and Todd were out there carving out new and devilishly difficult sections for Supercross all the while racing was happening over there. Myles famously hates "pro only" sections, but I'm confident, most of us are going to wish these new bits were pro only.

Anyway back to the race. In the 40+ we had JP, Patrick and myself. Another small field, but it was STACKED. I think I mentioned in a previous post, but while I was predicted to finish in 10th with my 330 crossresults points, 1st through 8th had anywhere from 234 to 279 points. It's like, walking up to a sheer cliff, looking straight up and being like, yeah, no way in hell I'm going to get up there.

Still, this is racing and I had business to deal with.

1) My starts. Have generally sucked this year. Today, not so much. A long pavement stretch leading onto a wide grassy climb onto a section of course that I had practiced with Todd a few weeks back for like 30 minutes straight seemed to have paid off. I actually held back and slotted into 5th wheel on the pavement to take advantage of some roadie draft. In retrospect, I should have taken the hole shot, and made a few more guys come around me. Coming through, into the first moderately challenging technical section I started to get gapped. And gassed. No question I was fading. Oh well.

2) Getting tangled in tape. Almost every race, I break some tape somewhere and that costs me time and places. Today, I kept it on the course. Of course that also meant I probably took some sections too slow. Early-ish in the race, JP and I were trading spots. He made a strong and fast move past me carrying more speed into a bumpy off camber section. I was in chase mode.

3) Remounts. These too have not been great this season. So this past weekend at both races I really focused on making them smooth and fast. Yesterday at Fair Hill one rider who was bunny-hopping barriers complimented me by saying I was the only guy who was going just as fast as he was bunny-hopping (J-hopping really, if we're being technical. No one "bunny hops" 40cm barriers, but I digress). And today, I was able to make up ground on my competitors by being a bit smoother and faster than I have been in the past.

4) Letting folks catch me. I wouldn't say this has been a problem exactly, but there have been a few key moments in a few races this year, where I've turned off the turbos a bit when guys are chasing me thinking, "okay, they'll catch, I'll get some draft and then I'll beat them later in the race." Except this NEVER HAPPENS. I let them catch, they pass me and I never see them again.

So when I JP passes me in that same lap where we traded positions like 4 times, and gets a gap, I dig deep on the roadie power stretch to grab his wheel. I do and get a few seconds of rest. I'm thinking, "hmm, okay, this could be good the two of us working together..." Except I look back and see a third dude charging hard and fast. I have to make a move, so I attack on the grassy uphill left handed sweeper and I'm off to the races again.

And with 2 laps to go, Christopher Facas (Westwood Velo) is hunting me down pretty hard. He got as close as 5 seconds according to the cautionary/motivational cheers of Todd on the sidelines. Part of me (the lazy part of me) wanted to not care if he caught me in the twisty bits because I thought I could handle him in the long roadie stretches leading to the finish. But we all know how that goes. So the last two laps were a delicate balance of me going to my limits, but not over. So it was a hard final two laps of the race. More cautious turning, meant I needed more watts in between. As Dan Chabanov said in a post Charm-City race interview, "that's a hard way to go fast." In the end, however I held him off. By just 5 seconds and held onto 10th place (exactly as crossresults predicted) Yikes. Phew.

5) Knowing my limits. So this is a broad category. But in this case, I'm specifically referring to the two run/ride-ups on the course. A lot of guys were riding up them and for some reason, I just had a lot of trouble with them during warm-up. So early on in the race I decided to just treat them as run-ups.

But they were steep and slow. And when I was neck and neck with guys, they hurt like hell. I have a chronically painful/tight/pulled left hamstring that hinders my running. And if you got a good line, riding was definitely faster/easier. But I couldn't find that line, hence the runs. When I was "by myself" I dialed back the pace a bit and tried to sneak in some recovery here. Of course, that meant on the bits after those run ups I had to throw in some extra fast accelerations to compensate for my relatively slower pace running.

Results...

40+ Bertucco 10th, Partland 14th, Grehan 18th

https://www.usacycling.org/results/index.php?permit=2015-3470&bypass=1

Next up for me? Well, after racing every weekend going back to August when I did the Chris Thater crits, Green Mountain SR, then Nittany and beyond. Well, I'm ready for a rest. I'd really like to race well at Supercross, but if past years are any indication, set up and working during the weekend is going to drain the life out of me. As such, NBX in early December is my next target "A" race, when I'll be taking on the New England crew  of 35+ racers.
Anybody racing Westwood this year?
I was planning to go but I have family commitments on Sunday.
I'm in same boat as Thierry. I was looking forward to checking out new venue  as i hear it has sand and single track 
Fun times at westwood velo cx today.
  • Arrived a bit after Max and Harry had finished, I believe they were both top 5. Hotness
  • cool course, flat windy section, woody single tracky parts, mud, sand, hate the cinnabon of death
  • love all else: line choice truly matters
  • JP and I line up for the Masters race
  • Been training base, thinking nationals, top end not even low top, unsurprising, get a bit shelled at the start
  • base is working, felt good and kept at it
  • also better lines each lap
  • JP is my carrot, he is one spot ahead most of the race
  • 2 to go, can hear the leaders getting the bell
  • holly crap: don't get lapped!
  • push push push!!!
  • catch JP
  • we ride together for a bit -- but can't find a photo!
  • I get a little lucky hitting better muddy lines in the cinnabon
  • hated that cinnabon of death mud so much
  • but that's where I get the gap
  • JP barely a few seconds behind. can't let up!
  • oh, there was a log, rode it each lap, fans say: nice!
  • lead lap finisher
  • 54 odd minutes
  • hotness 
  • also, on a combo of no cell signal and a dead battery, my zip car totally busted. took 3 hours for zip to send someone to come rescue
  • helped tear down the course while I waited
  • everyone westwood was super nice, really!
  • wanna do more, right now!


Photos by Sergio Garabito

As Eloy said, this course at Wawayanda Lake was great for learning how to choose the best line through all different kinds of surfaces, including some I haven’t raced on this year—squishy grass and packed sand—and the usual ones, like tacky singletrack, loose sand, and thick grass. JP and I agreed, however, that there was too much gravel, including a treacherous loose turn. The weather felt as good as it looks in the photos Eloy posted.

Yes, I placed 5th, but I'm disappointed. I wanted my first podium spot. Given the other guys in the race, I figured it would only be a three-way battle and I thought I was ready for the challenge. Instead, I couldn’t match the leader’s power on the squishy grass as he opened a gap on us during lap one, and I made one crucial mistake before the race that came back to haunt me on lap two. Here’s what happened.

I was called up second, after a 40-something guy I’d raced against in other NJCX Cat 5 races. He’s strong, so my goal was to hold his wheel as long as I could without blowing up completely. I was ready to dig deeper than I’d gone before, and imagined myself making opportunistic moves in the sandpits, on the run-up or on a piece of technical singletrack, like the off-camber descent that hooks left into a steep little climb. 

The whistle took me a little by surprise. I went fourth or fifth through the holeshot. I rode the second sandpit into second place. Shortly afterwards, in the Spiral of Doom, the leader began to open up a gap. On the little climb into the woods somebody in baggy shorts and eyeglasses muscled past me. He'd go on to win the race, and I'd never get better position than second again. For the rest of lap one and the first half of lap two, I defended third place, even opening a little gap on those behind me.

Then came the log. I’d been riding near my limit to try to catch first and second places. Ride or run the log? I hesitated. It looked rideable but I didn’t know for sure, because I hadn’t tried. During my recon lap I had run it and kept going, anxious to see the entire course, instead of taking the time to practice it both ways and determine which would be faster. I may have still ended up choosing running over riding, but at least I would have been sure of my approach. My mistake became very clear to me.

I made a last-second dismount, leapt over the log with my bike, and then dropped it back on the ground…too hard. My chain dropped. Fourth place rider (whom I’ve smoked in previous races this year) overtook me. I got my chain back on and started moving, but soon the fifth place rider caught me. It was Miles Whitford, my girlfriend’s cousin, a nice guy doing his first ever cyclocross race—who also happens to be the reigning champion of both the New Jersey Junior Criterium and Cat 4 Road Race. The guy has legs! We had fun going back and forth on lap three. After the officials rang the bell for us, he managed to stay in front of me until the end. I finished 24 seconds off the podium, and 1:12 behind the winner. 

awesome Max.

Give it a little time, you will soon become good at recognizing which sections to double pre-ride and test.

You will also get better at race time decisions, sticking to the choice on approach, and recognizing if you should change it for next lap -- in fact, after this weekend, I'd bet you are already there.

So looking forward to seeing you kick moar ass.
I’m hearing that this race has low registration and is combining fields or even risks getting cancelled. Worth taking a look at if people are going to be around thanksgiving weekend
Yep, yesterday the organizers emailed registered racers with that message. I'll be there. Join me. It's a fun course. 
Looking forward to tomorrow. That out and back wet sand beach portion is gonna ugh be defining. 
https://www.bikereg.com/BR/a/3948/Westwood-Cross-Course-Layout-2018-PDF.pdf



Good to see a nice Kissena turnout at Westwood today. Here are some pics I got of the 40+ 4/5 race:


This pics are sweeeet
Awesome pics!  It was great to see so many of us out there. Thanks @PatrickGrehan for the pointers during the pre-ride. Super fun times!



I had fun in this race. While the course had two or three technical sections (mostly in the wooded, single track area), I feel like this was a power course that suited my skills. Got there about half an hour before my race but was able to pin up and do half a lap pre-ride. I was on the third row at the start but was able to pass people by the "hole shot". I just motored through the grassy section and the sand. It was wet so it was not an issue. The course went up a wooded section where the tricky sections were (a log, gravel, and a run up). Thankfully there were not a lot of roots or rocks to worry about like in Bubblecross or Power Cross (where I blew out my front tire). Surprisingly came in 15th, although James had a slow leaking front tire so was able to pass him before the finish.

As always, the best part is hanging out with teammates before and after the race.
A few more pics from Westwood that I took with the GoPro. 


Here are pics from within the race:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/LFoibeih1wqSFxyp8

And here is the full on board video:

https://youtu.be/5gZVakKRC70
Westwood was really fun first race. I just registered for HPCX. I guess I am hooked. Thanks @PatrickGrehan for the pre race tips and the pictures.