• First, it's important to point out the UCI doesn't want doping positives. It's bad for business. They want the appearance of clean sport. Huge difference.
  
• WADA in turn relies on laboratories that are run and accredited by local governments
• The clean members of the peloton can't lob accusations without proof - defamation is illegal in most of Europe, and won't make their team owners happy. Adios contract renewal.
• The biological passport has more holes than a siv. Microdosing, swapped samples, novel masking agents, not to mention good old fashioned "bribe the tester/testing authority". This is pretty thoroughly documented if you look at the literature. I'm not even starting with how WADA relies on the countries individual anti doping agents, or the misuse/abuse of Therapudic Use Exemptions.
• Yes, athletes are doping younger, look no further than high school athletics (I think the number is 1 in 5 ) in this country, where there is very little financial gain, ie the risk/reward situation is terrible.
• As to early doping, that's one of the huge loopholes; early doping can confer lifelong advantages, yet there is no way to test and no agreed upon appropriate consequence even if there was a test
• Ross Tucker does talk pretty frequently on his podcast about doping, only in the sense that it's absolutely rampant in running, and when it comes to cycling he sort of shrugs and says "of course, but what so what? I spent ten years talking about it and nothing changed, I have nothing new to say, beyond reporting on recent novel excuses for 'contaminated' supplements"
• I haven't mentioned that UCI and WADA have separate anti-doping organizations, which can lead to problems 

JohnMalcolmson said:

^ Superman Lopez' team, Medellín (2nd in GFNY ), imploring fans to SUPPORT him and TRUST in his innocence. Dude has a fertility drug for women in his system, but ok. 
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Jules said:

https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/colombian-cycling-star-miguel-angel-lopez-banned-until-july-2027-for-use-of-menotropin/

• First, it's important to point out the UCI doesn't want doping positives. It's bad for business. They want the appearance of clean sport. Huge difference.”

Mark Taylor said:

Jules said:

https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/colombian-cycling-star-miguel-angel-lopez-banned-until-july-2027-for-use-of-menotropin/

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• First, it's important to point out the UCI doesn't want doping positives. It's bad for business. They want the appearance of clean sport. Huge difference.”

Jules ?

• WADA in turn relies on laboratories that are run and accredited by local governments

Mark Taylor said:

Of coarse you should , , but it also seems improbable that only the winners are doping 

Mark Taylor said:

https://escapecollective.com/exclusive-tour-riders-are-inhaling-carbon-monoxide-in-super-altitude-recipe/

Jules said:

Hey @mugwump did you post a link once to a wikipedia of dopers? I googled around a bit and couldn't find it.

For a rider of this prominence to call it out in a preseason interview... there has to be a backstory that prompted this. I know he's not generally loved like Pogi by the peloton, but I don't think he was actively hated on. Pretty sure he's not making any new friends or allies with this.

David Yang said:

On one hand "I'm not abusing it, but others are, trust me."

But on the other "Imma put you on blast if you don't watch it."

https://escapecollective.com/daily-news-nerve-issue-complicates-evenepoels-recovery/#vingegaard-wada

Vingegaard calls on WADA to ban carbon monoxide amid fears rivals are abusing it
The great carbon monoxide debate is back. In an interview with French newspaper Le Monde, two-time Tour de France winner Jonas Vingegaard called on the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) to ban carbon monoxide over fears others are using it for performance enhancement.
The Dane acknowledged that his team Visma-Lease a Bike is one of those that has employed carbon monoxide to measure maximum oxygen absorption capacity, or VO2Max, either end of a training camp, for instance, but he says he now supports a complete ban.
“Some teams divert its use by regularly inhaling low doses of carbon monoxide, which causes a significant gain in performance of their riders,” Vingegaard said. “This is not fair and the World Anti-Doping Agency should ban it.” [Le Monde]

For a rider of this prominence to call it out in a preseason interview... there has to be a backstory that prompted this. I know he's not generally loved like Pogi by the peloton, but I don't think he was actively hated on. Pretty sure he's not making any new friends or allies with this.

Matt Budofsky said:

I'm still bewildered how carbon monoxide is a PED. Maybe we should all get rid of our CO sensors in our houses and get super strong

GregHoge said:

So we should do whip-its at the top of Bear?