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Board Meeting Summaries & Announcements

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We had our first Board meeting on Friday, 1/23.

Because we have a lot of new Board members, we discussed how to have a Board meeting, and our specific duties.  We're ready to roll up our sleeves, and we will be meeting monthly and posting here the topics of discussion and how we voted.

A couple of announcements, which may have already been posted:

Rudy has been dropped as a sponsor.  

We can get POC and Giro Helmets through the Club's store sponsor Redbeard.

The end of year vote to reincorporate passed.  Reincorporation is a prerequisite to achieving charitable status, which opens many new fundraising opportunities for the Club and the broader NYC cycling scene.

We discussed the Peaks Coaching plan which has been announced on our site. 

This is a great opportunity at a great price.  If you haven’t signed up yet, you can do that here:

https://kissenacycling.wufoo.com/forms/peaks-coaching-feb-15-through-april-15/

Please post any questions you have in the Peaks Coaching thread.

You do need to be an active Member in order to take advantage of the great Club benefits and sponsors, including the Peaks Coaching plan, discounts through Readbeard , Giant, OSMO, and purchasing new kit.  

Because not everyone has yet renewed their Membership for 2015, please click on the link to renew:

https://kissenacycling.wufoo.com/forms/kcc-membership-2015-application-waiver/

We're looking forward to a great racing season.

Hi Team,

I wanted to provide you with a few brief updates on what the board has been working on. Remember, this club is only as good as its volunteer members, so if you want to get involved in any way, please don't hesitate to reach out. The board will be meeting quarterly in person, and monthly via conference call, so if there are issues you'd like us to take up, let me know.

Training -
The mentors will continue to offer a full slate of training and racing mentoring. Last year there were weekly rides, crit clinics, skill work on the track, tactics talks, and coached morning workouts. Look forward to these events happening again.

Racing -
Charlie is planning another full season of road racing in Prospect Park and FBF. Title sponsors have returned for many events and more are expected. Charlie will need help with registration as usual, and possibly some help out on the course, both as course marshals and motorcycle pacers. Look for details as the racing season approaches. Unfortunately, racing at Cedar Creek Park has ended as the park is no longer permitting races.

Myles will continue to promote the Super Cross Cup, with the possible addition of a Wednesday night race the week before the event.

Sponsorship -

Myles and Ryan Johnston are working on putting together a comprehensive sponsorship packet to present to potential sponsors. They are also reaching out to old sponsors to maintain relationships.

Web Presence -

we are excited that a comprehensive new website is in the works! Stay tuned for details, our web team is hard at work. Jules has been appointed "transition linkage coordinator" to bring all our web presence (facebook, twitter, flickr etc.) under one roof.

Legal -
The board is exploring ways to convert to 501c3 status.

Park -
The board discussed ways to deal with the situation in Prospect Park (ticketing, etc.). We are going to remain an active presence on the Road Sharing Task Force and push for cyclist friendly recommendations.
Wednesday night cross race?!?! Sign me up.
No more Tour de Parc! That's terrible news -- I had aspirations to avenge my Rudy shades there. Plus it's a really fun race. Too bad.
Here is a really big update from the board. Please let us know if you have any questions! These changes might be a bit controversial to some but please be assured we put a lot of thought and debate into them, and the best interest of the club was at heart when making these decisions. 

Kissena Cycling Club Board Meeting
September 24, 2012
Location: 303 Sixth Avenue, Brooklyn, NY
Present: Jules Roazen, Eric Ragot, Michael Perlberg, Dan Reiners, David Stokes, Ryan
Johnson, William Doyle-Capitman, Josh Caesar, Todd McLoughlin
Time: 7:00 PM – 9:30 PM

Topics of Discussion

I. 2013 Mentor and Rider Retention Programs

Due to the rapid growth of the Club, the need for rider development has significantly
increased. It appears that the current mentor program cannot sufficiently meet the need for
mentors. After discussion, the Board determined that it is necessary to alter the existing Mentor
Program and Rider Retention Program.

Several ideas were discussed, and the following final proposals were made:
Aspects Applicable to Both the Mentor and Rider Retention Program:
(i) The Club by-laws shall be amended so that the Track Director board position
shall be replaced with a Development Director position. The Development
Director shall be responsible for the Mentor Program and the Rider Retention
Program.

(ii) By the end of January of each year the Board shall decide how much money and
goods (i.e. clothing provided by Champion Systems free of charge) to allocate to
the Mentor Program and the Rider Retention program.
Mentor Program

(i) In January of each year the Development Director shall make a request for mentor
proposals to the Club. The request shall be for a written proposal, from a
prospective mentor, describing exactly what mentoring activities the prospective
mentor will provide and how that prospective mentor will be compensated.

(ii) The Development Director shall have discretion to approve or deny the proposals
on a rolling basis.

(iii) Once the proposal has been accepted, the accepted mentor shall sign a
memorandum of understanding obligating the mentor to perform his or her
mentor duties and obligating the Club to compensate the mentor as agreed.

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(iv) The mentor proposals shall be viewable by the Board, and the Development
Director shall provide the Board with quarterly and year-end reports.

(v) The mentor sessions shall be placed on a calendar viewable by Club members.

(vi) The treasurer shall be responsible for disbursing compensation to the mentors.
Rider Retention:

(i) The Rider Retention program shall be open to Club members who are (a)
Category 2 and above in Road, Track or Cyclocross and (b) a member of the Club
and Category 2 or above at the beginning of the year.

(ii) A participant of the Rider Retention Program shall be entitled to team clothing, in
an amount to be determined by the Development Director, and if the rider meets
the criteria described below, a refund of the rider’s Club dues at the end of the
year.

(iii) A participant of the Rider Retention Program shall sign a memorandum of
understanding obligating the rider to (a) start at least 10 races in the discipline for
which the rider meets the above criteria and (b) remain a racing member of the
club for the entire year. The memorandum of understanding shall also state that
the participant is expected to act as a mentor for other riders.

(iv) The participant of the Rider Retention Program may leave the Club during the
year in order to race with another club, but only if that participant receives a
release from the Club permitting him to join another club. If the participant
leaves the Club mid-year (a) there will be the expectation that the rider will return
any clothing provided by the Club and (b) the Club dues shall not be refunded.
The following proposals were brought to a vote. All present voted in favor of the proposal, and
the proposal was duly passed.

II. Dues Increase

Due to increased spending, primarily on internet services, it is necessary to increase the
club dues. If the Club’s income and spending remains the same, the Club will be bankrupt in
approximately 5 years. It was, therefore, proposed that the member dues be increased from
$50/year to $100/year. The dues increase would take effect on January 1, 2013. On or prior to
December 31, 2012 current members would be allowed to renew their membership for 2013 at
the current, $50, rate.

Discussion among the Board Members followed. After the discussion, the proposal was
brought to a vote. All present voted in favor of the proposal, and the proposal was duly passed.

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III. 2013 Holiday Party
Jules reported that he had been in touch with Woodland on Flatbush and 6th Avenue.

It was proposed that Jules be permitted to approach Woodland and attempt to negotiate
an agreement for Woodland to host and cater the party. 

Discussion among the Board Members followed. After discussion the proposal was
brought to a vote. All present voted in favor of the proposal, and the proposal was duly passed.

IV. 2013 Board Elections
Discussion regarding the 2013 Board Elections was held among those present. Ryan
would begin to solicit nominations from the Club members, including nominations for
Development Director.

V. Anti-doping

Discussion was held regarding the implementation of a anti-doping program in New York
State. Many NYS clubs and NYSBRA appear willing to participate and help facilitate an antidoping
program. However, as of this time there is no concrete plan. It was determined that
without a concrete plan it would be inappropriate for the Club donate or pledge any money,
although it will consider doing so after a concrete plan is formed. In the meantime, the Club will
publicly support the program and is willing to send representatives to participate on any antidoping
committee.

Some riders have expressed concern about THC, which is on the list of banned
substances. USADA has stated that they cannot make an exemption for THC, but will provide
education, which will inform riders of the testing procedure and substances on the banned
substance list.

VI. Suprecross Cup

Discussion was held regarding promoting the races and the logistics of holding the races.

Meeting was adjourned at approximately 9:30 PM
The board did take on some important issues, and in general, I approve.  While I think a dues increase is warranted, I don't think doubling to $100 in one year is appropriate.  Nor do I like the idea of allowing those who pay by the end of 2012 to pay no increase.  It's nice, but it doesn't do anything to help the club.  I'd rather see the increase to a more reasonable $75 this year and allow the board to consider whether another increase is necessary next year; and/or allow current members who renew by Dec. 2012 to pay $75 rather than $100. 

Also, I think a small fee added to all clothing items bought through the club is a good way to help support the club's finances, and the clothes are still a good buy.

Just my 2 cents.
One more thing about finances - I know from past experience that the year end party is an expensive undertaking.  Even though everyone who attends the party pays, the club has absorbed some of that cost.  While I would like to see that continue, it might be wise to charge members closer to the actual cost of the dinner, and not underwrite as much through the club.  I also like the idea of exploring a new venue.  It's time for a change.  Keep up the good work.
And I'd like to nominate President Perlberg for a 2nd term.
Thanks for the feedback Lenny,

The idea behind the grandfather clause in the dues was to ease the burden of the change for existing members. So if you pay $50 for 2013, and $100 for 2014, you are in effect paying $150 for the next two years, or $75 a year. 



And I gladly accept your nomination, but beware I do plan on eliminating PBS. 
^zing
FYI - as VP I'm obligated to launch the elections, which I will do soon. Stay tuned.
Bump question for fees. When checking out for annual membership, I get tagged for $100. Does $50 get charged back after the fact?
Bump question for fees. When checking out for annual membership, I get tagged for $100. Does $50 get charged back after the fact?
Mattie.  I wait till I see the waiver get filled out and then I only charge a "partial" $50.
I have been getting Kissena recruitment emails from Mike and the board to and old email address. I am impressed by how professionally our current board operates. The emails show how much this club has grown in the past few years. Job well done boys!

Also, what was this about Kissena promoting the Harlem skyscraper classic? Another coup, but big spectator events have never been Charlie I's thing. What'a the story?

Keep up the great work!
Hello Team,

I'm reviving this thread as a place for you to ask any questions you might have about how the club is run, or post suggestions & requests.  If it's a topic that begs for a real conversation I strongly encourage you to corner one of the current (or past) board members on a ride where you'll get more time & nuance than here.

Hello all,

We had our first Board meeting of 2014 this week and I wanted to share some of what we discussed with you.

Attending were:

Jules Roazen - President

David Stokes - Vice President

Jeff White - Membership

David Yang - Tresurer

Todd McLoughlin - Secretary

Eric Ragot - Development Director

Erika Tarte - At Large

Joaquin C de Baca - At Large

Kayt Mathers - At Large

Brendan Rigby - At Large

Charlie I (Race director) & Craig Z (Sponsorship) were unable to attend.

We did a brief review of the Board positions & responsibilities, and ratified the minutes from the final meeting of 2013.

Finances: Yang made a presentation of the finances of the club, based on expected renewals and expenses for the year.

The club has only one source of income which is membership dues (we do also get a small amount of cash and some in-kind benefits from some sponsors) and five broad categories of expense:

  1. Forum & related - we pay for a hosted Vanilla form, and the website, domains, wufoo online ordering, etc
  2. Mentor program (the club pays mentors in cash, deferred dues and Champsys kit)
  3. "Elite" rider retention (Rudy project helmets & glasses for Cat 3+ riders)
  4. Parties (mid and end of year)
  5. Miscellaneous expenses like buying a team tent, or purchasing spots on "club row" at big CX races

Membership: Enrollment in 2014 was 138 members.  Jeff anticipates "meeting or beating" that for 2014, based on expected renewals and our New Member pipeline.  Kit design changes are underway for 2014, which are minor (no more "KCC50") but a pre-requisite to our next order.

Jeff has committed to publishing a year-long schedule of clothing orders & new member rides by the end of January.

Ride Clean: NYSBRA's anti-doping solution is a fund that can be contributed to, which in turn pays USAC to conduct State-Wide anti-doping "as they see fit."  We discussed some possible fundraising ideas.

In 2013 and prior years Board members were exempted from paying dues; we voted to repeal that in 2014.

Mentoring: Eric presented the outline for a Women's racing program, led by Dale Suttle; the board approved funding for this program.  Open solicitation for mentoring proposals will begin shortly.  The board tabled discussion of specific mentoring budget hoping to see an increase in membership by our next meeting.

We also discussed converting two of the Board's "At Large" positions to "Technology" and "Public Relations" respectively.

As always, if you have questions about how the club is run, or suggestions to make it better please don't hesitate to contact one of your Board members, or post here.

Happy riding,

Jules

Maybe a monetary breakdown of how much cash mentors get, cost of forum, how much is spent on Rudy project, etc?
Maybe a monetary breakdown of how much cash mentors get, cost of forum, how much is spent on Rudy project, etc?

Absolutely @Jeff Still waiting for @Yang to piece that together for 2013, and we'll report back on spending for 2014 as new expenses are voted on/approved.
@Owens, in answer to your post; anyone interested in budget specific questions should contact your Treasurer, VP or President directly.
Hello Kissenas!

As you may, or may not know, the Kissena Board of Directors does a ton of work behind the scenes so that that you can race in fancy kit, swap GIFs on the forum and enjoy sweet, sweet Sponsor discounts while sharing muffin money.

One of these tasks has grown in recent years, and we're calling for a volunteer to get up to speed/take over in advance of the 2015 year.

The duties involve maintenance/administration of:

  • website/domain/dns
  • wordpress
  • google apps (email, calendars, accounts)
  • master list of online assets & passwords
  • the forum
  • the wufoo account
  • mailchimp
  • twitter/facebook - administration stuff
  • flickr account
  • dropbox
The creation, editing, modification of online forms (waivers, osmo orders, new member signups)

If you have the aptitude AND TIME for this commitment please feel free to contact me via email.

Feeling a bit of a kissena/cycling bug today.

So here's what I propose, let's give this a week, If no one else volunteers, let's discuss,

I might enjoy taking over.
^Holy sh*t Eloy's back!!!

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Any updates?
Hi Marc.  We're putting the final edits on the minutes from the last two meetings and I'll post them as soon as I can.
Bruce
I’m posting the Board Minutes.  We had two meetings earlier this year so much of the information has already been communicated by the different Board Members.

Board Meeting Monday, March 3, 2015
Board Meeting Friday, May 22, 2015
Board Meeting Monday, October 2015

Monday, March 3, 2015

Peaks Training going well, with membership in the teens, and we agreed that Tim’s involvement has been excellent.

Mentors – in recognition and thanks, the Membership Director will contact certain active mentors and thank them with team kit, which is an established practice as part of mentor recognition.

Rider Retention – separate from the Club’s Mentor protocols, certain active, highly visible racers will be contacted by the Membership Director and also offered team kit, and if possible, have race and membership fees reduced or waived.

Member dues –there are certain riders who have not yet paid dues for this year, making them ineligible for sponsor discounts.  

We discussed a Spring Social.  We’d like to find an appropriate space, and possibly a theme, which would involve Six Point.  

Women members.  Member dues will not be waived this year for women.

New Member Ride - The Membership Director was planning a new member ride on the upcoming Saturday or Sunday, weather permitting.


Friday May 22, 2015

The Club reincorporation voted on in January has been completed. We are now Kissena Cycling, Inc.

14 members signed up for the first round of Peaks.  15 members signed up for the second round. The training is relatively inexpensive and people are getting excellent use out of it.

We voted for all new members to receive free the first 3 months of Peaks Training, including the onramp schedule.

We will stay with Champsys unless a better alternative exists, including a member who can work with the vector files.

$5 back at L&C races is the standard, and members need to ask.  No envelopes.

Monday, October 2015

We are looking at Castelli, and comparing other companies.  The President will update a spreadsheet with options and pricing.  

The Team is paid up for the year with Training Peaks.

Membership fee will be $50 through the end of the year for new members.

The Team needs to find a venue and make this happen before November.  Technology Director will post a request for volunteers. 

Elections need to be setup online, under the responsibility of the Vice President who will oversee them.  No change to the Board positions.

We discussed weekend rides being more formalized and having an A and B group so not everyone has to hammer in order to keep up.  Open to suggestions and formats.

Computrainer starting December with the possibility of individual workouts at FTP levels, and then a 10 minute all out race.  The Public Relations Director will coordinate and schedule this.

We have approximately 100 active members.

Signed, the Kissena Cycling, Inc. Board Members:

President: Jules Roazen
Vice President: Thierry Bonnaire
Treasurer: David Yang
Sponsorship: Craig Zolan
Public Relations:  Jeffrey White 
Technology: John Malcomson
Membership: Philip Maronilla
Development: Dale Suttle
Secretary: Bruce van-Schalkwyk

There has not been a board meeting report on this thread since 2015. Here is an effort to correct this. Last year’s board did a lot of work and the current board is on track to do the same. Here is an overview of the board meetings on February 10th and March 25th.

Membership

Membership renewal is lagging this time last year. We currently have 35 paid members. We expect more renewals as the weather improves. Our first Meet Kissena ride is scheduled for April 1st. Other rides will be scheduled every three weeks or so. 

Encouraging rider engagement and retention were discussed

Treasurer

Currently in a solid financial position but we are being conservative with expenses given that membership has decreased over the past several years. 

Sponsorship

Efforts are being made to get new sponsorship including ConEd.

POC helmet subsidy is popular and should be promoted, however we are reducing subsidy to$25 for Cat 45 and $45 for Cat 123 

Development

Explored options of a racing camp with Tim Cusick and Scott Moninger. Gauged member interest. There was not sufficient interest so camp was scrapped, but weekend away has enough interest to setup. Announcement will be forthcoming. 

Road bikes at Velodrome day was successful. Looking to get more member engagement in clinics as well as group rides. 

Tech 

Discussion of ways to save costs on tech that club uses. Alternatives will be explored and tested prior to making decisions that affect members. 

Other

Victor Chan will continue to be hired to take race photos for the club that are available to all members at no extra cost

The Spring Series was close to being revived this year by Myles Romanow with the support of Kissena. In the end, factors kept this from happening. Board considered partnering with CRCA to help preserve this series in the future. 

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Feel free to reach out to board members if you have questions about any of the above





Thank you for the renewed transparency, Patrick. I'm sad to hear that the racing camp had to be shelved, but I understand the reason why.

Can you remind us of what the POC helmet subsidy was prior to the recent reductions, and explain more why the board decided to effectively raise the prices this year?

What are "tech membership uses," and why do the costs need to be saved? I admit that don't have the background knowledge to make sense of this update, but I suspect I'm not the only one.

I hope we get a ConEd sponsorship just for all the good power puns we can make. While it's clear what we get from our bike-related sponsors, what would we get out of the ConEd deal? 


@MaxThorn

Thanks for asking. Happy to answer questions. Most of your questions related to trying to provide useful benefits to membership while being fiscally prudent. 

First ConEd - they make the Watts? (couldn’t help myself) Sean is following up on a lead that came up last year. Sponsors provide club with money and or goods. ConEd would be money.

Tech: I edited the tech statement to be clearer. Essentially we are simply looking at current use of tech (which one of our larger expenses) and seeing if there are better and more economical alternatives out there. Vanilla forums costs the club around $2000 a year. 

POC: Your question prompted me to go back and find the original posts on the forum about POC and noted that the purpose of the 123 discount was rider retention. The Octal MIPS was $169 for Cat 45 and $85 for Cat 123. We are going to look at the subsidy once more before finalizing it. 

Does that clarify things?


Yeah, thanks Patrick. So if the new POC Ventral helmets have an MSRP of $290 (according to pocsports.com) then the board is considering prices of $265 and $245, up from $169 and $85? Or is the Kissena subsidy deducted from whatever it costs Redbeard to get them?
Max, subsidy is after Redbeard discount, significantly less than 265 and 245. We will get back to everyone with the subsidy soon. Our goal is to provide a subsidy that incentivizes everyone to get the same helmet and look sharp and reduces costs to members without overburdening the finances of the club.

The Kissena board had a meeting on June 8th and I had planned on posting minutes but did not get around to it. I had started writing the minutes but decided that they needed some context to be understood. Everything else that happened in June put that on hold… until now.

This post ends up being a little more like a “state of the club” message rather than minutes. There are two issues where we could use member help, so please contact one of us if you are able to help. 

First, a little context. Several years back, the club was over a 100 members strong and had two cash sponsors providing the club with $2500 each. We are currently at around 50 members and haven’t had cash sponsors since 2016. The club doesn’t have the kind of resources that we did a few years ago, but is in sound financial shape and projected to remain so throughout the year.

Our largest expense has been coaching which in prior years was heavily subsided by the club. Last year the board decided that it was no longer sustainable to have the club pay the majority of the bill for a service that was used by a small group of members. Our solution was to increase dues and make coaching freely available to all members. We believed that affordable coaching would be a valuable benefit for current as well as for recruiting new members. We understood that not everyone would be comfortable with this decision and have always planned to reassess it. We will seek member input later this year and will reevaluate whether this benefit and its associated costs warrant keeping it. Note that we renegotiated the costs of coaching, helped in part because the current plan is less time intensive to maintain.

While there continues to be an active core membership, there has been a decrease in total membership since last year of about 25 members. Current membership is 48 members. The majority of the members who did not renew were less engaged with group rides and racing and may have been put off by the increase in dues. The club continues to offer new member rides and new members have joined but not as many as have left. 

Finding a new sponsor has been another priority this year. The ConEd sponsorship was not a good match. Our current plan is to seek a local eatery like a coffee shop looking for increased exposure. We are working with Charlie Issendorf to provide a local sponsor with greater visibility and value by sponsoring the club as well as a park race jersey. I think a coffee shop would be ideal because they would get exposure through the club, at park races, and we could guarantee them paying customers after each race. If any members know of coffee shops or other eateries that my be a good fit or want to help the board approach potential sponsors please reach out to Sean Miles or one of the other board members. 

The other significant expense for the club is the forum software. Before he died, Phil Ginsberg was spearheading a plan to transition from Vanilla forums to Discourse. There were several benefits for doing so including more modern features like a dedicated phone app and saving the club around $1800 a year. He had done a great deal of research and prep work but did before completing the work. We hope to be able to find someone to continue the work he started. In the coming weeks we will need to find a member to become technology director. If you think you might be able to help please reach out to a board member to find out more about the position. 

A couple of random notes from the meeting:

  • The crit clinic run by JP and Dale was well attended. 
  • A Cyclocross clinic will be planned for August.
  • The weekend away in the Catskills was a success despite the mixed weather. The riding was great and the the house and food were affordable. The club will consider making it a regular event.
  • The recent POC helmet order was popular and the club subsidized $700 in helmet costs. 
  • We will pursue the dark Jersey/jacket design recently discussed on the forum
  • A CX sock design is being explored.