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Social Distancing Solo Saturdays and Sundays

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So much for seeing this thread on hiatus.

Considering that yesterday, the forecasted high for today was 46f, I was stoked when the temp had risen to 48 by 10am and the forecast was for the rain to tail off a bit and get to maybe 54 by 2pm.  I dressed accordingly.  Gabba jacket, lighter waterproof gloves, latex booties.

When I got outside, I saw that it was raining harder than it seemed from my window.  So the emergency rain jacket, which I usually bring with the Gabba on days like today, came on  And stayed on.

When I know I'm going to be out in the rain all day, I often opt for a flatter ride.  Easier to ride steady, and the roads are often a bit wider, so easier to deal with cars.  Turns out, I didn't have to worry about the latter.  The yucky weather seems to have kept in a good portion of what is typical Sunday traffic.

Felt like I had the roads mostly to myself, which was nice.  And whenever the rain let up, it felt like the birds started singing again, which is nice to hear, though it effectively masks the lighter rain, which can cut either way.

Didn't see another person on a bike until I was coming back over the GWB.

I don't think it creased 50 on the ride.  And the rain went from light to heavy to moderate to heavy to moderate to a full-on downpour, which I was in for the final half-hour or so.

Could have used another layer under the Gabba or gone with the full-on rain jacket.  And definitely needed to do better for my hands.  They're still cold as I type this an hour later.  

Still, happy to have been out.

https://www.strava.com/activities/5385527392

I got out a bit late today for a longer ride and I noticed some sealant shooting out of my front tire before I even got to Downtown Brooklyn. I brought one tube with me and I didn’t feel super jazzed about doing the remaining 70/75 miles without a back up. It was a slow leak so I was able to roll back home to Flatbush. 

It wasnt so adventurous but I ended up setting a PR up the alp du Zwift mountain thingy. Very sweaty lemonade was made out of today’s lemons 🤷‍♂️


Weekend mood 
Did the "Le Grand du Nord" on Saturday; the fifty miler. Weather was lovely. I stayed with a pal for the first 60 minutes or so; I'd ride ahead up the hills and roll back to pace him up. 

About an hour in the hill I was on turned into quasi-singletrack-washed-out-riverbed so decided there was no turning back - I'd have to meet my buddy at the finish.

The rest is a song we all know; dusty lonesome solo tt-ing for hour after hour. A couple of guys worked together to chase me down in the last hour. I sat in their wheels for a bit to recover and and then got back on the front for the ugliest climbs. Since I wasn't about to tt away from them at the top it made sense to wait up and paceline in to the finish together.

Overall I finished 39th out of 263. Considering I turned back three or four times and didn't ride in a pack I'm ok with that. 
Grateful for the dry roads and @eloy company heading back from the Market on 9W

Do Friday's count? 110 ish km of gravel today which turned into a 4:40 ride. Got absolutely hammered by the heat in the second half. Also saw the smolest snapping turtle ever...




Had myself a pretty big ride on Sunday! My partner and I were visiting friends upstate and I floated the idea of riding my bike home. Logistically it was great, because nobody had to wait around for me to finish up a ride and I could go out without worrying about leaving anyone behind. It was set up to be a very functional adventure. 

The route took me from Kingston (John O’s neck of the woods) all the way back to Brooklyn. I rode a gravel rail trail for the first 30 or so miles, rode the Storm King Highway which was real scenic and then took the traditional 9w route home once I hit Nyack. I was impressed by the new bike path they paved at the base of the Bear Mountain climb. I had ridden the original, overgrown gravel path that used to be there a few years ago but now that it is paved, it was a really nice break from busy and hilly 9w. 

I got to test out the new KCC socks (top notch) and the Champ Sys ~cargo bibs~ (also pretty nice, though not game changing). 113ish miles, surprisingly not too much elevation, and I think 8 bottles?



This was the most chaotic ramp leading from the end of the rail trail to the road. It had like 15 switchbacks.

awesome!

I considered similar rides, specially to my Aunt's close to Kent Connecticut, but always figured it was better from the City to the suburbs because of traffic, how was it as you approached the city and once back in the city?
Gravelkings looking slick. Bike looking sharp. 
eloy said:
awesome!

I considered similar rides, specially to my Aunt's close to Kent Connecticut, but always figured it was better from the City to the suburbs because of traffic, how was it as you approached the city and once back in the city?
I think you might be right, it would have been nice to finish on the scenic roads and leave the busy ones behind. My thinking was that it would be easier to not have to navigate new roads with a bonked brain. Also thought it might be fun to have fresh legs on the nicer roads. I think both ways have their merits. Regardless, definitely recommend if there are some nice quiet roads somewhere along the way. 
  • Couldn't sleep much at all Saturday night
  • so devised a route based on the infamous Hohokus loop JP keeps threatening us with
  • as the Sunday forecast changed from rain all day to mostly cloudy all day
  • reserved a zip car
  • parked at the Mahwah ski station
  • let's do this!!
  • then got soaked as weather went from misty mistery to full on rain
  • what is a forecast, ah what is it?
  • wondered about the wisdom of doing this route with no sleep on what should be a recovery day
  • eventually the sun came out and was full summer blast
  • I felt tired, cause fitness where are thou??
  • so cut the harriman part which is likely the more beautiful part
  • saved like 4 km on a 110 km route haha ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
  • the profile is definitely a fun hard challenge, but felt like there are less crowded roads close by, JP, what is up?
  • Still riding by places with names like mahwah, campwah, wawayanda, wanaque, larry's deli, & tuxedo, how bad can it be? not bad at all, that's how.
  • all in all a good day out
  • https://www.strava.com/activities/5649005309


Brings back memories of the cross race that used to be there 
eloy said:
  • so devised a route based on the infamous Hohokus loop JP keeps threatening us with
  • saved like 4 km on a 110 km route haha ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
  • the profile is definitely a fun hard challenge, but felt like there are less crowded roads close by, JP, what is up?
  • Still riding by places with names like mahwah, campwah, wawayanda, wanaque, larry's deli, & tuxedo, how bad can it be? not bad at all, that's how.
  • all in all a good day out
  • https://www.strava.com/activities/5649005309




@eloy

So jealous.  I need to schedule The Ho-Ho-Kus ride again (yes, it's a real place in NJ).  With you and everyone.  Need a day.  And vehicles--or at least a train schedule.

(For those who aren't familiar with Eloy's riding area, West Milford/Greenwood Lake had "party" phone lines into the 21st century, and WM has a bank that boasts a "24 hour ATM." I have a friend who grew up there; we used to call it 'the land that time forgot'.  It's close by but totally remote.)

Campgaw mountain is a great spot to start, though by doing so, you did save a few miles and got yourself some more busy roads.

If I had been with you, and starting from there, where I would have ridden differently is not have taken the right turn onto Sterling Mines Road.  While Sterling Mines feels like a forgotten road, you ended up riding 17 back from Sloatsburg to Suffern, which, while not as bad as it used to be (before the thruway was extended, it was a somewhat busy highway), is still not fun.

Instead, I would have gone straight.  17A would have ended at Harriman, then you would have done a 2-mile climb on Old 210 to 7 Lakes Drive, then Lake Welch, then Gate Hill to Willow Grove (50mph+ descent) to Call Hollow, then you could have taken several quiet roads to get you back to Campgaw without hitting Route 202, which can be busy at times.  I think this way, your last hour plus would have been on mostly empty roads.  

FWIW, I think with what I just outlined you probably would have ridden more than just four extra km.  

Let's ride bikes.
Thanks, JP, you are completely right that moment that 17 goes under 87 and then even a few miles in Hillburn/Suffern are not very bicycle friendly. 

I drew the route that you are describing which makes it significantly longer:
https://ridewithgps.com/routes/36821729

I also wondered what it would look like to go South from Greenwood lake (you could ride Ramapo again or skip as outlined)
https://ridewithgps.com/routes/36833773

Here's the route I did (would suggest caution on that 17/87 moment)
https://ridewithgps.com/routes/36821674
@eloy


"I drew the route that you are describing which makes it significantly longer:
https://ridewithgps.com/routes/36821729"

Actually, you could save several miles by going straight at the Kanawauke Circle in Harriman and climbing 106 rather than down 7 Lakes to Lake Welch.

"I also wondered what it would look like to go South from Greenwood lake (you could ride Ramapo again or skip as outlined)
https://ridewithgps.com/routes/36833773"

I wouldn't recommend this.  That's a long time on Greenwood Lake Turnpike/Ringwood/Pompton.  Not great for riding, particularly once you get south of Ringwood.  There would be some side routes here, but they can get complicated.


Here's the Ho-Ho-Kus loop ride in 2013

https://www.strava.com/activities/14597919

And in 2015

https://www.strava.com/activities/376402638

I think Keith might have gone with me in 2013.
mugwump said:

Actually, you could save several miles by going straight at the Kanawauke Circle in Harriman and climbing 106 rather than down 7 Lakes to Lake Welch.
Done. Saves almost 10km.
At 122km w/ 2,000 meters of elevation still a super hard day out, but doable.
https://ridewithgps.com/routes/36821729
Had a chance to spend some time with Family in Vermont, and ride around Woodstock, VT with my Specialized Crux 

Day 1 was the drive out, stopped in Northampton, MA and just went for an easy ride there, leaning on their awesome rail trail system. Tried to check some of the MTB trails around Holyoke, but those quickly looked a little more technical than I was willing to bet alone. In all, a wonderful loop. 

Day 2 was 100+km north of Woodstock, VT. Simply, one of the most beautiful rides I've ever done, plenty challenging too, with 2,000 meters of elevation and a couple of over 20% pitches. So many cool gravel roads. 

With intersections from roads called Galaxy Hill and Cloudland, you know is gonna be hilly!

https://www.strava.com/activities/5723267502

Day 3 did my best to stick to Tim's training plan, and keep it to 40 km, discovered the local training hill, at almost 9km at a steady 4 to 6% grade, got passed by some master cyclocrosser doing intervals, and a girl that was just flying up the thing twice my speed. I keep telling myself I was on a easy day according to the training plan ;) 

Can't recommend enough. 

Let's go ride bikes!


Amazing morning in Delaware county, 
forgot My wahoo at home 
retraced my steps 60miles 4800ft of climbing 
Love that early morning layer of mist! Always makes me feel like I've snuck through a portal to another realm...


Driving home from Andes NY , spotted a kissena jersey heading into Arkville on route 28
who dat ?
Driving home from Andes NY , spotted a kissena jersey heading into Arkville on route 28
who dat ?
Brian or Thierry come to mind, though a quick check of their Strava feeds suggest it wasn't either.

 I think that Dale Suttle also has a place up there, but I don't know where or how much he's riding.  (Saw a few pics of his Westchester wedding when I was in Memphis)

I didn’t recognize the guy , I know All above well ,
thanks 
Lone Kissena spotted in the wilderness, it's almost always Keith.
Jules said:
Lone Kissena spotted in the wilderness, it's almost always Keith.
This!

Though I expect Keith is in Texas or California these days.

Actually, as I was driving a rental car south on the west side highway just now, I saw a lone Kissena rider in a skin suit and orange Kask helmet riding on the Farrell Bridge over the highway.  Didn't have enough time to ID.
mugwump said:
Jules said:
Lone Kissena spotted in the wilderness, it's almost always Keith.
This!

Though I expect Keith is in Texas or California these days.

Actually, as I was driving a rental car south on the west side highway just now, I saw a lone Kissena rider in a skin suit and orange Kask helmet riding on the Farrell Bridge over the highway.  Didn't have enough time to ID.
I think that was me! Skinsuit for solo speed (but mainly a result of not doing my laundry and running out of other options...)
Solo today , low road to the Market ,
road back to brooklyn with David Trimble , back from Utah !
First long ride since early March.

Being out felt good.  Even if I did flat, and was a bit underdressed.  

https://www.strava.com/activities/7105550844


Very few people were out today...or at least it seemed that way from the route I rode.  Went west to Wayne taking in a few new roads.

On the bad side, I broke my chain.  on the good side, I had a master link with me and I got back on the road pretty fast, though it did ruin that downhill Strava segment.

https://www.strava.com/activities/10281409967
Wet one !