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Prospect Park Weekday Morning Training

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It was a nice group of 5 of us.  David Y and I rode a lap together before meeting up with the others at the top of the hill.  The wind wasn't too bad this morning, though third morning in a row where it's been 34f.  And Eddie B jumped on for half a lap. 
I won't be able to make it tomorrow morning.
It is cooold out there, campers.  Coming from a fredly solo riding background I really enjoyed the paceline stuff today.  On the last group lap, someone (again, still bad with names) signaled to pump it up and I fell off at the hill - surprise surprise.  Bruce was nice enough to soft pedal it after the top and I caught up and we did another lap together before heading home.

I'm assuming once more people come out, there will be a stronger/weaker groups that will split.  Right now, I feel guilty of slowing the pace down.  Even on the "easy" warm up lap with Bruce I had to ask him to take it down a tick.

Lessons learned week:
1. Get another computer to put on this bike to control efforts.
2. Consistency.
3. Buy bigger, possibly crabon fibre, lungs.  I think Specialized makes them now.
4. Strong guys are strong.
@David - when you're getting shelled out of a paceline, the first step is to recognize it early. Second, you can use it as an opportunity to practice staying at the back of the line and smoothly opening up a gap for the rotating man to slot in front of you. It's a good way to skip a few pulls before a hill or just to get your heart rate back down.
David, you did great today.  And riding with stronger riders has made me (slightly) stronger.  I've gone home feeling low enough times after a ride that it's become a familiar feeling, but I get back on my bike and keep trying.  And I think, as a team, when we're training together, we should regroup, if possible, after a hard push, and keep riding together.  Solo training is where you get to go at your pace, however hard you need.

One thing I'm still working on is, when I'm on the front and I know there are guys on my wheel in a pace line, keeping the tempo smooth and solid.  I can tend to ramp it up a bit too hard sometimes and blow up my legs because of it, not catching up to the last guy after I pull off.  Doing pace line drills helps me, as does keeping an eye on my speed.  Today was good practice.
Is anyone up for meeting a bit later, 6am is too damm early for my lazy ass right now. Im trying to get to GAP for 7am these days and putting in an hour. Holla back if anyones interested in a later time.
Hey Ashley -- I'm usually out around 7:30, but could try and make it 7 if someone else is out.
ashleyB said:
Is anyone up for meeting a bit later, 6am is too damm early for my lazy ass right now. Im trying to get to GAP for 7am these days and putting in an hour. Holla back if anyones interested in a later time.

so down for a later start i failed to get up every day this week
Cool, generally im aiming to train from gap for 7am
I'm seeing 50/50 chance of rain early tomorrow, will probably be out later in the day around 2pm.
  Jay, Bruce, David, nice to meet you all this morning... very nice to get back to training with the K after a year away... sorry about jumping the paceline at the end, it was my last lap and i wanted to make the most of the hill.
7 sounds good to me
@McKay - no need to apologize, man.  I saw your hand wave, was confused for a second, then realized that you were about to destroy the hill.  Tried like hell to stay on your wheel but just around that first bend I had to shake my head and pull off.

I'm out tomorrow, guys.  Gotta get some sleep and rest up for Millbrook on Saturday!
I will join the gang around 7:30ish on the weekdays.

Week 2 of PPWMT

Non-Battenkill:

Tuesday - Anaerobic efforts again. Warm up. then as you it the chute at the bottom of the downhill, go as hard as you can for 1 minute. Don't stand up to start it, stay seated. Try to be as strong at the end as you can. then ride SUPER EASY until you get to the base of the uphill. Then ONE MINUTE FULL GAS up the hill (same as last week). Use the full loop of the park to be getting two one minute efforts per lap. 4laps = 8 efforts. Good luck.

Wednesday - 2x2lap TT efforts. 

Thursday -  Do some sprints. rolling at 90rpm in a 39x17, sprint for 10-15s all out 3 times per lap on flat sections. Ride easy in between. Do 9-12 of these (depending on time)

Friday - openers

Sat / Sun - Race and Ride


Battenkill Participants

Monday - recovery or off

Tuesday - Ride for an hour or two. Nothing hard. Just enjoy the weather.

Wed - 2x2lap TT

Thursday - easy ride

Friday morning - openers

Good luck all.


E

Thanks Eric!
Thanks Eric. See the rest of you guys out there Tuesday.
Sounds good! I'll be there at 6 for the Tuesday workout and 7 for the rest of the week
I'm in for the non-battenkill training.
Seconded. I'll be there on Tuesday for some recovery laps.
Ill be out tomorrow morn
In for tomorrow mornin.
Good workout this morning. More Kissena guys out today (10 or so?) than all of last week combined.
Woke up late and hit the park at quarter after 6. Did week 1 intervals since I missed last week.
BTW, it took a lot of effort not to upchuck after the first one up the hill.  So that was fun.
i think first to actually vomit should get an award for effort

i think first to actually vomit should get an award for effort

Is there a pro way of doing it while pedaling?  Snot rocket style under the armpit?  Drive side?  Domestique helps push you along?
Nice ride on this warm morning, 6 of us riding 2x2 tt.  The park is starting to get a little more popular with other cyclists now that we've got warm weather and early light.  
Week 3 of PPWMT

Still anaerobic.

Tuesday - time to have fun with repeats. Warm up and then go to the inner loop (go past start finish line and turn left to Center Drive). On Center Drive, do 8 repeats from the bottom by the containers. Go all the way to the top and stop before making it back to the main loop. Turn around, ride to the bottom and repeat. Do these as hard as you can - but be consistent. Choose a start and end landmark and keep track of your times. Vary gears to find if you are better mashing or spinning or both. - GOOD LUCK

Wednesday - 2x2lap TT. This is a fairly consistent workout for you, so embrace it.

Thursday - group ride, but when you get out of the chute at the bottom of the hill, line up in equal sized lines and practice 30sec all out efforts for a leadout. If you have 8 guys, try 2 lines of 4. See how far that takes you. Do this two or three times if you can. Remember to be safe. Regroup after each effort and see how it went. You'll want to be working on getting comfortable with each other as you're about to begin the whole lead out and chasing jersey portion of the season.

Friday - Openers

Saturday - L&C Cup (if you're not racing, but want to be Marshall Captain, please say so and earn free entry for the next race)

Sunday - Group Ride Folks....
A good ride this morning.  A core group of 4 of us met at GAP at 6, rolled around for a lap warm up and did a solid hard effort across the park.  2 more joined us and the 6 of us did 7 more cross-park efforts.  
It's getting light out earlier now, and definitely warming up.  We had to dodge the joggers, dog walkers and cars toward the end of our ride, but it's a good place for these hard efforts.  That last uphill bit which seemed quaint on the first effort, became very steep as the morning wore on.
This was a good one, Eric, thanks.
Anyone thinking of joining, put on your new kit and come on out.  You don't even have to go to bed early, just be tired at work. . . 
@Bruce - Sounds awesome.  Couldn't pull myself out of bed this morning after 5hrs of sleep, but hoping to join in for rest of the week.