Great news ,
 I'm expecting a Matthew Hayman type spring from you .

Good luck on the PT, Patrick! Always the hardest part, but sounds like you'll be in a great place just in time for (hopefully) all of us to be outside and riding bikes together again.

Happy it all went smoothly and you're on the mend now!

Glad to hear things are on the upswing! I'm also impressed by your dedication to shaving grams. 

Hello, anyone can recommend a physical therapist? Also, are they usually covered by insurance? If not, how much could they cost?

Im afraid of US healthcare system. Any little visit to doctor has cost in between 0 and 1,200usd. And the worst of it is that bills just happen to come up like a month after. 

DiegoSanchez said:

Hello, anyone can recommend a physical therapist? Also, are they usually covered by insurance? If not, how much could they cost?

Im afraid of US healthcare system. Any little visit to doctor has cost in between 0 and 1,200usd. And the worst of it is that bills just happen to come up like a month after. 

Like going to a restaurant without any prices in the menu.

What are you looking to heal/work on?  That might help to know.  

Broken wrist because I'm an idiot! Thanks John M and the Uber driver for the kindness.

Need to see an orthopedist but clinic doc said it didn't look bad, 4 wks.

I see nothing wrong.

But heal up quick!

@David Yang
thats why your not let out the house much , it’s dangerous out there 😩
heal quick young man 

@David Yang  

Ouch!  That sucks.  I still can't figure out what happened.  

On the bright side, Trek-Segafredo's team doctor thinks you're now ready for the Giro.

Wait wut?!?

Damn. Bet your wife doesn’t believe you were just riding along. She probably thinks you were doing tail whips. 

LOL she was a lot less mad than I thought, probably because she didn't need to meet me in an ER at 7am after a cat 5 sprint...

I'm more embarrassed than anything. We'll see for sure once an orthopedist takes a look. Thanks for the well wishes!

And because Simpsons did it first...

https://youtu.be/hAYtgXBUQcg

take good care! You’ll be back in no time!

Get well soon Dave - nothing says "pro" like a summer trainer session

Hey, has anyone looked into Spot insurance?  USA Cycling is pushing it.

https://usacycling.getspot.com/

On the one hand, $40/year seems pretty easy.  But no fine print is included in the come-on.  No mention of deductibles.  No mention of how it plays with one's existing insurance.

Mark Taylor said:

“you are covered with absolutely no deductible, per accident. Your plan works whether you have health insurance or not, and with any existing insurance plans you may have.”

Thanks for going deeper than I did.  Clearly I skipped the top.  D'oh!

Yesterday I had arthroscopic knee surgery, to remove a small piece of damaged meniscus. Apparently, thanks to a combination of genetics, age, and years of being athletic created a part of the meniscus that had lost its flexibility, which was a root cause for the tear. My knee is very swollen today, but hopefully that will go away over the next few days. Within a month I should be back to riding fully. It's been such a roller coaster the last year and a half with this injury, I hope it's now behind me. 

Good luck @Nathaniel Miller take it easy, heal well and don't rush

Quick update - There's a full on break right near the tip of the bone at the wrist, but nothing moved and pretty minor all things considered. 3-4wks cast, combined 6-8wks for flexibility + strengthening and I'll be ready for cross/gravel ;-)

See ya all on the flippy flip.

Good luck, David, take good care.

any tips on recovering from a tailbone injury? typical timeframe? after 1 week still needing 4 Advils 4 times a day for pain. maybe just welcome the rest period?

James Reeder said:

any tips on recovering from a tailbone injury? typical timeframe? after 1 week still needing 4 Advils 4 times a day for pain. maybe just welcome the rest period?

(Assuming you've seen the right people before posting here because pain control is an important symptom. If an injury is waking you up at night you need professional help)

tldr; It could be weeks and weeks.

I hope it isn't

Anybody want to hear a funny story about Advil?

Waay back when KCC had an annual training camp in LA (you guys should do this again, post-pandemic) I finished the week with a knee injury. Probably too much, too fast. 

We were stopping in MSP on our way home and I got a bottle of Advil to deal with my knee.

3 Advils, 3 times a day.

Man I was tired. I was just bone, dead tired. "That camp really took it out of me." I thought, and "I guess I'm just getting older and I don't recover as well."

Relevant side note; we had three kids at the time - one an infant.

About four days into our stay in Minneapolis, I was still too tired to do anything, too tired to drive, cook - basically I felt like I had mono.

Suddenly I hear a shout - and angry enraged shout from the other room. Lisa comes storming in holding the Advil bottle accusingly. "Is this what you've been taking?!?!"

Advil PM, ladies and gentlemen. I'd been taking the equivalent of more than a dozen Benadryls a day.

James Reeder said:

any tips on recovering from a tailbone injury? typical timeframe? after 1 week still needing 4 Advils 4 times a day for pain. maybe just welcome the rest period?

That sucks! is this from our crash last week?

I think I broke my tailbone in a 'cross race several years ago.  "think" is the operative word.  I slid a bit on wet grass, didn't crash, but slid off the saddle and somehow jammed myself against the seatpost, between the frame and saddle.  

It hurt like crazy at first.  Sitting down hurt in particular.  It might have been my tailbone, but since it seemed like there wasn't much to do in terms of recovery, other than wait for it to heal, and the difference between a break and bruise seems just to be a break takes longer to recover, I didn't see a doctor.

I think I did advil for a few days.  The pain went away in about a month.

https://www.healthline.com/health/broken-tailbone#recovery
https://www.mayoclinic.org/tailbone-pain/expert-answers/faq-20058211

Dang that sucks James. If you still need ibuprofen 4x daily for a week, something ain't right and you should seek out professional help. Also there's the whole stomach bleeding thing with ibuprofen.

I just got my cast off yesterday - bone is still broken, but it's sticking at this point. Now comes the hard part of slowly and methodically building strength and flexibility through PT. Riding the trainer one handed kind of sucks, but it's better than nothing!

Like Dave suggests, go see a Dr.

It often can take time to find a Dr. that understands the lifestyle, specially around an less obvious injury, trust your instincts and don’t be afraid to get a second or third opinion.

late to the party, but I broke my tail bone snowboarding back in the day. @James Reeder, biggest recommendation is to get yourself an inflatable donut and sit on that thing whenever possible. II takes all the pressure off the bone, so sitting around (especially in desk chairs) comfier (and I'd have to think make it heal slightly quicker)

thanks all for your advice and anecdotes - x-ray showed no break!
a week completely off the bike did good things on the healing end of things.