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Results?!?
4s: Condon took 2nd! He can retell the great convo with Altchek 50m from the sprint. Aaron took sprint points with Jim leading out. I believe Yaks keeps the dots.
I think Yacks sent back his breakfast a number of times.

I tried for some green points in the first sprint but just didn't have that final pop to come around Yacks and got 4th. For the 2nd sprint I found Aaron who seemed eager to give it a try. Craig and I gave him a lead out and he was able to scoop up the points. Depending on how any of the multitude of guys with a couple points did, Aaron may have a shot a the podium if he gets some help next week. I'll be out of town.

Congrats to Jeff on well executed late break and Yacks for the launch that started it.
5s: Congrats to Thierry for his final 5s race and new member Joshua for his first. Great job guys!
I thought the 4s race was quite fun. We had guys patrolling the front the whole race. Jim and I collaborated on getting Aaron some sprint points and he won the second sprint, Condon came in second.

And, I had delusions of grandeur in the finale. Just after the pinch, and just before the temple two Major Taylor guys have a conversation and decide to go from there. In the split second one has to decide in that situation I decide to go with them, my thinking being for two guys this is a long ways out but for the third.... I was third wheel for some time as the first MT guy kept going with his teammate shouting encouragement. Then the first was done and now it was up to the other MT guy to keep going. I'm thinking, I'm second wheel (unbeknownst to me Jeff and a Foundation rider were up the road) I may actually place. OK Craig keep it together, then 50 meters before the crosswalk while the MT guy is dying a slow death, I hear the dreaded whoosh of deep section wheels. The sprinters are coming and in a blink of an eye are going. I think about sprinting but everyone has a head of steam and are flying past me. I pedal through for a mid-pack finish. Oh well. It was a great learning experience.
Magic Mike & Nelly are correct.  I regurgitated, puked, threw up, booted, vomited, blew grits, heaved, hurled, ralphed, spewed, tossed the cookies, upchucked....and wait for it......Yack'd.  I apologize for anybody that had to see it or ride through it.  It was a pulpy concoction of black coffee, banana, buttered roll and peach oatmeal.
I am attributing the episode to what may be a spider bite on my leg or too many pina coladas last night.

On to the race.  Mr. Pedersen was a no show.  I grabbed 2 points today just to say I did.  I have enough points to keep the dots for the podium next week.  The previous two races were a Kissena smack down in the dots competition.  I had trains running, guys sweeping my wheel and guys bridging me to breaks on the kom laps.  It couldn't have been scripted any better.  All I had to do in those races was follow wheels and throw in a kick towards the top of the hill.  Andy has the green so the team secured two jerseys in the series.  That is pretty cool.  
Jeff will have to give a report as I rode towards the back most of the day.  It was the safest place to ride as I did not want anybody's front wheel to wash out on the chum line I was leaving in my wake.  
I did throw in a nice dig at the boards before the bell.  Truth be told it was a move partially motivated by style points and perhaps a nice Victor Chan photograph.  As I approached the climb, I noticed Jeff and Charlie from Foundation on my wheel with 2 other guys in tow and some daylight behind them.  Thinking that fortune favors the bold, I proceeded to browbeat everyone into working the move.  Truth be told, I cursed like a drunken sailor ! I would apologize for the salty language, but it appeared to work.  The field was getting closer and it was obvious that someone would have to drill the climb to maintain the gap.  It only made sense that I should be the guy with a teammate in the break and all.  So I fell on my proverbial sword and threw in one last dig...and what do you know....it worked.  
Yes, I was as sick as a donkey this morning.  But two things; 1. stick it out as you never know when something good might happen in a race  2.  I DID NOT foil my pads this morning only to sit on the bench !!!!
Yack-Fu


My race report. 

With about 4 to go Altchek asked me how I was feeling wanting to make a plan so the race didn't end in a sprint. We talked about going with 3 to go or 2 to go which was going to be the KOM sprint and decided we'd try the with 2 to go.  After the KOM bell (3 to go lap) before the descent (I believe) a guy went off with a Vidal Partnership rider following. I jumped on them for for a bit and realized we had a gap so started to try to organize. The first guy blew up so it was me and Vidal guy. We powered through the 2 to go line and up the hill where I got the ful KOM points. After the hill he started to fade and I knew I was going to have to do most of the work if it was going to stick. After the hill the 1/2/3 break approached us and our motorcycle neutralized us. I was pissed because we had a gap that disappeared because of the neutralization and I burned a big match. 

As we all came together I saw Altchek back at the front and we discussed what happened. As we rolled past start/finish on the bell lap I saw the friendly face of our dots leader taking some pulls. We approached the base of the hill and Yaks said "I'm going hammer the hill get on my wheel". Not one to argue with a madman I complied and stuck on the TI machine. Yaks dropped off about halfway up the hill and I came around powering to the top. While doing so I heard Altchek yell to Yaks "You're a beast!"  At the top of the hill Altchek came around and started a heavy pull. We traded pulls for a bit and I suspect had a decent gap. Around 3rd street a 1/2/3 motorcycle (the first or second chase group) came next to us and told us to neutralize as our Moto was slowing down. Altchek shouted that we were in a break on our final lap and we shouldn't be neutralized. The motos talked and figured out a plan allowing the break to pass us in the left while we still motored on the right. At one point Altchek said we were caught but I told him the pack behind was the 1/2/3 field so then he realized we were going to stick the break. It was a little confusing with all the 1/2/3 groups so this may not be entirely accurate but I think this was the order of things. 

After the descent before the temple Altchek asked how many point I had in comparison to him. After I told him (he had 25 and I had 17) he said "okay let me win" thinking I was fully out of contention for the yellow jersey and it wouldn't matter. I said "no let's just go for it" and he "agreed" replying something about taking me in.  As we hit the boards he was in the lead powering to the end. At the cross walk I made my move and came around him with the line 50m in front of me. I thought I had it made with my first (and probably only) PP win. Then I heard him shout "You tricked me!" which made me pause and say "no we're going for it". At that point he turned on the gas and came around me for the win. I think I paused to make sure he knew I wasn't being a dick, but clearly that cost me the win. Obviously he wasn't going for with full power up until that point and he's got a helluva kick so chances are he would have won anyway. Who knows.

After the race I told him I never agreed to let him win and he apologized for the confusion saying he'd give me money / buy me coffee etc. Clearly it wasn't about the money. When his teammates asked about the finish he explained to all his teammates about the misunderstanding. He even told me he'd shepherd me to a win next week (I'm sure that's just post race adrenaline talking).  He's a super nice guy and I want him to win the overall. 

Apparently after the race Carl Nelson protested saying we jumped into the 1/2/3 field to maximize our break or something to that effect. We didn't come anywhere near those guys and there were two motorcycles there to confirm that. Altchek blew up a bit at Carl after being called a "cheat" which prompted Charlie's muppet comment. 

Big thanks to Yaks for the killer lead out that created the wining break and all the other Cat 4s who raced in support. We shared muffins and coffee for those in attendance post race. I think with my result may have jumped to 4th overall, not sure about 3rd yet, but we'll see. Good racing with y'all. Look forward to next weekend. 
@Jeff that is awesome. Can't believe I missed Charlie losing his cool...
Which carl Nelson?
On Jul 28, 2013 10:38 AM, "Jeff Condon" <
Myles said:
Which carl Nelson? On Jul 28, 2013 10:38 AM, "Jeff Condon" <
The professional cat 4 one, not the green arm bandits kid. 

Oh - congrats to Andy for finishing his first 123 race. The first 4-5 laps were brutally hard so that's a good introduction to local park racing. 

1/2/3 report?

@ Marc 

Real quick

Keith got in the big break during the first 1/3 of the race, actually he started it by rolling off the front. 

Rene got in the first chase group. 

I got in the next one. 

Keith got dropped. The 2 chase groups never caught and ended in no mans land. Rene was close but not quite top 10, I think I was 20th or so. 

It was hot as balls. Joaquin Andy and Robertson (who's that??) all raced aggressive and smart. 

I think Jeff is going to be 1 point off the KOM podium...I think we can make this happen next week.

Correct. Jeff is 1 point off the KOM podium. He is also in 3rd place overall by 2 points.

Aaron is 1 point off the podium for the green along with 8 other guys.


I really hope that next year, the Kissena Cat 4s will commit to finding a rider or two to rally behind for the overall. You guys race really well together and have some super strong guys. Congrats all around. Please don't be satisfied with just dots and green. Total domination starts with yellow! Or something...you know what I mean...
Jeff is in 3rd overall and 4th in the KOM. Aaron is in 4th in the sprint competition. We can sweep the sprint competition podium by having Yacks and Aaron go 1 - 2 / 2 -1 in each. The person that wins the 2nd sprint will come in 2nd overall and the other 3rd overall.
Where are you seeing these results? The link I just got from Charlie wasn't updated with Sunday's race.


http://spasport.com/2013_lucarelli_&_castaldi_cup_overall_standings.htm
Nice, we have Yaks, Aaron, and Alyosha each with 3 points for the sprints.  Yaks, I'm assuming you're happy with the dots so that leaves Aaron and Alyosha to work for to get into the 3rd sprint spot.

Clinching Jeff's overall podium spot is priority though of course!
It's odd, for some reason my link was reverting to last months overall results. Working now though.

Yes my priority is staying on the podium through the final. If the KOM points come with that so be it, but I'll focus on getting away first (perhaps with another Yaks launch pad) or lining up for the sprint if need be. Would love any help I can get in this endeavor. 

Ryan is tied with a bunch of guys for 3rd in KOM. If we can get him a point or two, he can get 3rd.
I wasn't at the race this past Sunday, but I saw this guy was.. wow.

Does anyone know how he finished?  toe clips, bib shorts over t-shirt, green sneakers..

http://www.oneimagingphotography.com/2013RaceSeasonSeason/LucarelliCastaldiCupRace728/LucarelliCastaldiCupRace728/30800485_nb9gVz#!i=2664068117&k=fWRhKvh
^ I saw that guy and spoke to him prior to the race. He's not wearing cycling bibs, but a singlet for rowing. If I remember correctly it was Dartmouth rowing. At the time his buddy was pinning on his number and he wasn't wearing the t-shirt. I mentioned that there was a rule that you have to wear a jersey with sleeves. Rather than run the risk of being pulled I suggested that he put something on if he had it. He asked if a t-shirt was ok and I said yes and he thought of putting it on under the singlet. It was my good deed of the day and it came before 6am.

Don't know how he did. He was in the 5s.
@Aaron - You didn't see him because he got dropped on lap 2 before the hill...but kept on going until he finished all 5 laps.  He must have finished a full lap behind the field which was only like 20 riders or so in the 5s.  Kayt and I were watching from the KOM line (across from Owens) and Mr. Tshirt Under Bibs and I think his buddy were dislodged from the back.

I worked reg table and secretly hoped he would crush the race.
He's going to crush, like motherf-ing Godzilla... Just wait. We've got to recruit him now before Megnoninoi get their hands on him.
http://www.oneimagingphotography.com/2013RaceSeasonSeason/LucarelliCastaldiCupRace728/LucarelliCastaldiCupRace728/30800485_nb9gVz#!i=2664096881&k=PZRSVm2

BTW I overheard during reg that this woman raced years ago, took time off to have kids, and came back to race in the 4s.  She didn't get dropped.  In fact she was hanging tough in the field with the rest of the 4s.  Badass!
FWIW that is Phil Garofalo right behind her... my Cross Results NEMESIS... Unfortunately he's a nice guy so I'm still looking for a reason to hate him.

Every once in a while one of these shots appears that show me leading the group over the hill and I realize Victor has access to alternate realities.

http://www.oneimagingphotography.com/2013RaceSeasonSeason/LucarelliCastaldiCupRace728/LucarelliCastaldiCupRace728/30800485_nb9gVz#!i=2664078255&k=DTkf7vS

Sweet photo of Yaks creating the break for Jeff C.

http://www.oneimagingphotography.com/2013RaceSeasonSeason/LucarelliCastaldiCupRace728/LucarelliCastaldiCupRace728/30800485_nb9gVz#!i=2664115063&k=cvw6FPF

(BTW I kept mixing up Jeff Owens and Condon's names yesterday morning.  My excuse is I didn't yet have my caffeine fix and also there are too many fudging Jeffs in this club, but my sincerest apologies to both)