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Close Encounters of the #%&*@! Kind (Legal too)

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you know, related... even the headline and tweets below...



obvs, like what... the wall would have fared better if it was wearing a helmet? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
http://jralong.com/2019/11/20/bike-helmet-laws-are-stupid/

Tried to put all the relevant research into one argument.  Amazingly, the one thing that has been proven to increase safety fo cyclists is more cyclists on the road. 
mugwump said:
http://jralong.com/2019/11/20/bike-helmet-laws-are-stupid/

Tried to put all the relevant research into one argument.  Amazingly, the one thing that has been proven to increase safety fo cyclists is more cyclists on the road. 
I like that last comment. I was talking to someone after my last run in with the car early this month, and I mentioned that the more cyclists on the roads the better things will get... I was laughed at...
This winter during a fat bike race on a particularly bland flat stretch my heart rate went from 140 to about 230 and stayed there. I confirmed with my finger on my neck and then got off my bike. Standing by the side of the path doing nothing, my heart was machine-gunning in my chest.

Since standing next to my bike didn't seem to stop it I put my bike down and sat in the snow. Just as suddenly everything went back to normal.

I waited a bit, knowing my race was over and then (since I was still over an hour from civilization) began soft pedaling back to the start. The whole while thinking bikes were over for me and I had some terrible "athlete's heart" condition.

At the finish were my wife (ER doc) her colleague (another ER doc) and of course, because this is a small town, my Physician (an avid and accomplished athlete). I shared my story and they agreed it was probably a one-off, possibly precipitated by a bit of dehydration or over caffeination.

Since then I've cut out coffee and trained as hard as ever - with nothing unusual happening. I do watch my HR a more closely, but only for signs of trouble.

Aging sucks.

https://www.velonews.com/training/the-outer-line-did-i-just-bonk-signals-no-cyclist-should-ignore/
That's wild @Jules, I stopped wearing a HR monitor about 6mos ago bc I found it wasn't necessarily 'helping' my performance. Bit wearing it for safety isn't a bad idea...not sure if I would have noticed a jump from say...190 to 210 if I was already in the red. 
Wow Jules, that’s scary. Thank God you have a lot of medical professionals surrounding you.
HR is valuable training data - if it's unusually high or low you know something is amiss - maybe hydration, sleep or overtraining. I also look closely at how quickly it recovers after a hard effort. Truth be told I'd have known something was wrong without it but sometimes I need a knock on the head to pay attention.

Thanks for the concern guys.
Jules said:
HR is valuable training data - if it's unusually high or low you know something is amiss - maybe hydration, sleep or overtraining. I also look closely at how quickly it recovers after a hard effort. Truth be told I'd have known something was wrong without it but sometimes I need a knock on the head to pay attention.

FWIW, we had a guy on Kissena over a decade ago who had two episodes similar to what you seem to have experienced.  Rufus Pichler.  Once, in a race, Battenkill, his HR went up to 230. Alarmed, he slowed down.  It happened a second time on a training ride I did with him.  It was a pretty spirited ride in hot weather.  We had started in Harriman at the Tiorati circle, and somehow ended up riding with a small-time pro climbing sensation named Anthony Colby. After a loop of the race course, climbing Storm King from both sides, we were going for it up Bear Mtn when he noticed, or maybe it was when we were descending.  He slowed down for the rest of the ride.  I think this was 2008 or so.

I think he was diagnosed with superventricular hypertachycardia.  Turned out a few pros had experienced it in the recent past.  

https://www.emedicinehealth.com/supraventricular_tachycardia/article_em.htm

aging sucks regardless.  Though it gives you more excuses to slow down.  
@mugwump that was exactly what I was afraid I had. Turns out the consensus was "nope" and I've been stress testing it pretty good for the past 100 days.

Very oddly, or perhaps ironically I seem to be back to 2012 era fitness. The extra hour of sleep in the mornings has been magic.
Rufus situation was serious, glad yours, Jules, seem like a one off. 

As a side note, wearing a HR monitor consistently for basically every single workout, running, but even on yoga classes, has allowed me not only a ton of helpful performance info, but a good sense of how I am feeling during any effort, and often proves the better personal measure on how hard I went. YMWV
I read this some time ago and it scared the crap out of me

https://www.velopress.com/books/the-haywire-heart/
y’all stay safe out there. It’ll be a sad state of affairs indeed if we need yet another non-bike related national crisis related thread....  But i guess that’s the point
Jules said:
y’all stay safe out there. It’ll be a sad state of affairs indeed if we need yet another non-bike related national crisis related thread....  But i guess that’s the point
If people attended protests recently, it strikes me as a good idea to get tested for Covid.  In NYC, testing is free and seems to be pretty easily available.
Not sure what this falls under but if anyone is planning on riding thru city today bring spare tubes.glass everywhere,seems everyone is sweeping it into street,hopefully road sweepers will be out . Saw destroyed mail truck,which is pretty sad.
If you think it's likely that you'll get, ahem "harassed" by the authorities be sure to turn off your biometric authentications on your phone (face recognition or thumprint).
I guess this is the place for this? I made a social media-centric link to make it easier to contact your lawmakers in the tri-state area and beyond if anyone has any use for it or would like to share it with people they know, be my guest:

https://linktr.ee/makeyourvoiceheard

Bike night at the protests
Slayed myself on a 100km ride in the high 80's low 90's the other day. "Bob" decided to stop me in the last 5km ...

https://roazen.smugmug.com/Family/2020/i-mxBN9cV/A
Wow, where was this??
Seven Bridges road, in Duluth, MN
Jules said:
Seven Bridges road, in Duluth, MN
could have been Jersey.

But there, you'd just come home to find a bear in your basement.

https://www.njherald.com/news/20181010/photo-of-bear-in-basement-causes-stir-at-hunt

https://www.dailyedge.ie/tv-repairman-finds-a-bear-in-the-basement-of-new-jersey-home-305803-Dec2011/

It's kind of a thing in the Garden State.
Today saw these guys running by my study window... thankfully it doesn't look like they live under my house ;)

https://roazen.smugmug.com/Family/2020/i-Qg3mWMW/A
Jules said:
Seven Bridges road, in Duluth, MN
So the bear disappeared off to the left and the road goes to the left.

How much longer did you wait?
mugwump said:
Jules said:
Seven Bridges road, in Duluth, MN
So the bear disappeared off to the left and the road goes to the left.

How much longer did you wait?
30 seconds maybe. I went by fast ;)


Checks notes, pushes glasses up nose and ands “iguana” to the list of biking hazards...

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/18/us/iguana-florida-bicycle-trnd/index.html
Today I played hooky from work, and I needed a relatively easy ride to decompress a bit. I decided on a route leaving my area close to the north shore of Long Island, Smithtown, routing me all they way down to Heckscher State Park. I have not been down there in probably 10 years.

Just north of Sunrise Highway, while heading south on Lakeland Avenue, a two lane road with a wide shoulder, a dark colored pickup, looking possibly like a Ford F150, honked his horn right as he approached my left shoulder from behind, which of course startled me.

My instinctual reaction was to raise my right arm and exclaim: "Hey! what's the deal?" as he drove past. The driver of truck decides to slow down and roll down his passenger window and I as I came up next to him, and informs me that he was honking to let me know he was there.

I replied that I could hear him coming, and that beeping can startle me which can cause me to swerve which could cause an incident. He then asked why I was not riding right up against the curb. I of course replied that glass and debris thrown from cars, along with sand, and sticks, and foliage collect there and it is not safe for me to ride there.

He then told me I should be riding on the sidewalk. By now I was getting irritated, and replied that it is not legal for me to ride there, and that he should know the rules of the road.

At this point I was really growing tired of this conversation. This stretch of road is a 40/45mph zone and with him doing my speed of about 20-21mph, traffic was backing up behind him. I told him several times to "Get out of here...", and as he pulled away from me, he then slammed the brakes and steered into the shoulder right into my path, which would have taken me out had I not already been on the hoods and ready for anything by now. I was able to apply the brakes and pull right. Thankfully there was a wide shoulder.

I yelled at the driver that he had just committed assault and I was going to call the police. Of course he then pulled away turning onto the service road of Sunrise Highway heading west.

I had no plate number nor my GoPro so obviously there is not much I can do. I am thinking of putting the GoPro on my bike more permanently, and doing more recording. I do need an extra external battery pack that can velcro to my stem to increase the one hour battery life of the camera...

The events today did sour my ride and I was quite cross for the rest of it, but I was fortunate it did not end up  worse than it could have been.

-Andrew
Wow, what an asshat. Guys like that are dangerous. I’m glad you’re okay
Glad you are ok. I don’t like to interact with people; it never improves things.
Ugh, that is such a bummer, sorry Andrew. 
https://www.scnylegislature.us/DocumentCenter/View/73173/Introductory-Resolution-1767-20-PDF?fbclid=IwAR362MDJ4Zy_dhPphkZ0wtXSheFv62K6SlK7ZJcpFKbCsDywrcEsaokcLT0

This seems... bad? 

No person shall operate a bicycle:
4 A. Without due regard for the safety and rights of pedestrians and drivers and occupants of all other vehicles, and so as to endanger the life, limb, or property of any person while in lawful use of the streets or sidewalks or any other public or private property.

B. Without exercising reasonable and ordinary control over such bicycles.

C. Without having at least one hand on the steering mechanism or handles of the bicycle at all times.

D. With more than one person riding on the bicycle, unless the bicycle is made for two or more people and contains two or more seats as originally built.

E. By trick riding, weaving, or zig-zagging course, unless such irregular course is necessary for the safe operation in compliance with this law and New York State Vehicle and Traffic Law.

F. While wearing more than one earphone or headphone attached to a cellular phone, radio, tape player, or other audio device while riding.

G. While sitting on anything other than the designated seat or seats on the bicycle.