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https://www.amny.com/news/central-park-jogger-struck-bicyclist/

As usual, the cyclist get blamed, though there is no information in the article as to who caused the crash.

FWIW, I think the marathon construction crew and the supervision of them, is probably the culprit.

I was through the area friday, and neither the park workers nor the police were doing anything to direct foot and bike traffic.  No cones, no lanes, no clear direction.  Might be best to avoid Central Park until a few days after the marathon.

Always a shame. Thank goodness he wasn't in spandex, not that it will help with the inevitable crackdown...
The New  Yorker dug into the Moriah Wilson murder story.

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2022/11/14/a-murder-roils-the-cycling-world

I think the story misses on several levels.  Part of me says, 'well, they have only limited space,' but then it's The New Yorker and they usually seem to run as long as they want.

There's very little about Kaitlin Armstrong.  It suggests that successful gravel racers have to be influencers (duh!), but the downsides seem only to apply to men.  And Strickland, who the story is largely about, comes across as an affable guy if you know him a little, but probably a dick if you know him well.  He seems to be far more calculating and cynical, and someone whose job as a racer is largely managing his image.  And he might well have been observant enough to sense that his time at the top of the gravel scene was rapidly ending.    
@mugwump.  Agree, though the article also seems to want to make a point to implicitly compare the gravel scene to something akin to the Frye Festival, as if the non-competitive riders are being had.  Strickland comes off as a scumbag, but the article is odd because it seemingly wants to put the onus on him for prompting Armstrong to murder Wilson through his infidelities and pretending as though Armstrong didn't exist.  You'd think a story about a murder would actually include a focus on the murderer. 
It's basically just a hit piece on Strickland. Yeah he sounds like a jerk; more or less in line with the narcissism it takes to be a semi or pro athlete.
@SammuelAuld

Scumbag is probably a more apt descriptor of Strickland. Armstrong, OTOH, despite lots of damning evidence, is still only an alleged murderer.  

@Jules

I suppose that's fair.  I wanted to know if Wilson and Rockwell also had some of that same narcissism.  And perhaps if Armstrong did as well, or if she was somehow blinded by his charms.  

I haven't ventured to the Red Bull site to check what was surely a glowing profile of Strickland in one of their Red Bulletin mags, but it makes me even more skeptical of any athlete who is being sold as a good person.  Red Bulletin ran a profile of Chloe Dygert that hinted she could be an abrasive jerk, which was probably a big deal and was probably snuck in.   


mugwump said:
@SammuelAuld

Scumbag is probably a more apt descriptor of Strickland. Armstrong, OTOH, despite lots of damning evidence, is still only an alleged murderer.  

@Jules

I suppose that's fair.  I wanted to know if Wilson and Rockwell also had some of that same narcissism.  And perhaps if Armstrong did as well, or if she was somehow blinded by his charms.  

I haven't ventured to the Red Bull site to check what was surely a glowing profile of Strickland in one of their Red Bulletin mags, but it makes me even more skeptical of any athlete who is being sold as a good person.  Red Bulletin ran a profile of Chloe Dygert that hinted she could be an abrasive jerk, which was probably a big deal and was probably snuck in.   


Isn't it funny how on some level being an absolute jerk is more offensive than killing someone in a fit of jealously. Goes to show how impoverished our systems for morality are I suppose.

The Dygert this fascinates me, perhaps only because we usually hear the stories of the men who are intolerably bigots, not the women.
In other news, is Cav done? Seems incredible to be honest.
Jules said:
In other news, is Cav done? Seems incredible to be honest.
My feeling is he'll get at least one more year regardless.  I could see him being a last-minute addition to a team and structuring his pay so that he has a low starting salary but generous bonuses.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/nov/14/new-york-e-bike-batteries-fires-delivery-workers?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
I’ve been a fan of CyclingTips for years as they tended to put out content that bike dorks could enjoy. They got taken over by Pink Bike and the Outside Magazine. Since then some of the content has become more homogenized, but they still had some great content including Dave Rome and his in depth articles on topics like tools and chain lube and Carley Fretz’s editing and podcast work. Love them or hate them they were axed along with others yesterday. The CyclingTips forum is full of members saying they will cancel their subscriptions. 


Wade Wallace is hinting and starting another site. There is an interesting Twitter thread and discussion between John Bradley and Wade. It seems to show that there isn’t great money in cycling publishing (I met a guy who works for Outside when I was in Boulder - said they aced the printed magazines (velo, peloton) because they were losing gobs of money). Also we get some insight into how/why Wade sold CT in the first place. Worth a read

https://twitter.com/johnwbradley/status/1592900891429851137?s=46&t=VvgRCukJ0jR_L5FHF3YAww
Ugh. Media is definitely broken.
To make it more fun, Robin Thurston CEO of Outside Media, is an advisor on Lance Armstrong’s ventures firm. While making cuts was a business decision, rumor is that Armstrong might had some say on who was cut.


Yesterday I joined the ranks of those cancelling their cyclingtips subscription. I’ll probably sign up for cyclingnews. 
People often wonder why the coverage of cheating in cycling is so uneven. Look no further for answers. 
In Europe cycling is going thru some extraordinary years -- Wout, MVdP, PFP, Pidcock, Pogi, Cecilie, Women's Robaix, etc, etc... 

But it is interesting to see that printed, and then web (written) has lost significant value. The Tour de France and the Giro di Italia both started to promote printed press. 

From my couch, broadcast, btw, appears to be in better shape, as GCN seems strong -- some concern as they become the only player, because could happen if eventually they go away?




Oy!

First, I've been a VeloNews subscriber for more than 30 years now.  Even was paying for the paper subscription.  And I did throw some bucks at CyclingTips during the tour.  When they folded Velonews/Peloton, I asked what my money was supposed to go to. They took a few weeks to get back to me and reported that they'd send an announcement in the upcoming weeks.

I see this as a decades-long death spiral. I wrote about it in depth a few years ago.
https://jralong.com/2020/03/09/bike-mags-are-going-to-suck-worse/

"The long-term costs of the “free” strategy eventually kicked in. Written media budgets were slashed. Institutional knowledge wasn’t worth as much as it used to be, so not only did staffs get smaller, but they also got younger. There was more pressure to appeal to advertisers to keep them buying ad space, which probably skewed the content in many outlets, making advertisers happier but left readers disappointed and disenchanted, and eventually those eyeballs didn’t look for those sources."

I'm no fan of John Bradley nor Caley Fretz.  In my opinion, both were part of the problem.  I distinctly recall Bradley writing what was really a marketing piece for Rapha in the guise of journalism when he was at Outside.  And VeloNews, not sure if he was at the helm, and/or Fretz, participated in manufacturers marketing sessions that were disguised as product launches--you know, a big company flying out staffers from several mags out to a resort to ride bikes, resulting in a fun vacation for the staffers, decent images, lots of swag for the staffers, and nearly identical articles published in several outlets.  I've heard that Fretz did a brief spell where he was working at both Mavic and VeloNews at the same time.  I'm told that many a magazine staffer was, in years gone by, working for manufacturers on the side, doing freelance work.

Of course, one can say that they were symptoms.  And, that wouldn't be entirely unfair. 

Thurston made his wealth by selling Map My Ride to Under Armour.  I believe he is a small investor in the group that owns Outside.  I assume that several of the titles Outside has bundled together would have failed otherwise, but probably not all.  

I think that there's more to the story.  Namely I think something changed with the investors.  A year ago, Thurston had a vision that he claimed would happen over five years, transitioning to 70% of revenue being from subscriptions.  I think investors are pulling back, which is squeezing the company.  

https://pressgazette.co.uk/robin-thurston-interview/

Since VeloNews and CyclingTips were under the same roof, there have been signs that they were going to reduce duplication; it looked like CT was going to be reviews and flavor while VN was going to be Euro road racing, American gravel, and some training.  And with Daniel Benson switching from CyclingNews to VN, they were getting a guy who just churns out stuff.  I think the Peloton mag acquisition was because somehow Peloton won the TdF guide--I think Outside wanted to kill off their competition for this advertiser-friendly paper publication.

I also think that a guy named Steve Maxwell, who seems to be an investor who masquerades as an occasional writer for VeloNews, is an investor in the Outside venture.  I bring it up because he wrote something a few years ago that seems to foretell some of what Outside is doing.  I think some of his observations are spot on.  I don't think his solutions make for things I'd want to read.

https://theouterline.com/surviving-in-the-cycling-media-business/
The "something" that changed is pretty straightforward: the risk free rate went from zero to four percent. Investments that "might" make 5% looked great (or reasonable) a year or two ago now look preposterous. Just to get the same return an investor would need 10% and zero risk. 


Jules said:
The "something" that changed is pretty straightforward: the risk free rate went from zero to four percent. Investments that "might" make 5% looked great (or reasonable) a year or two ago now look preposterous. Just to get the same return an investor would need 10% and zero risk. 


I wish there was another term besides "risk" for what seems to be rich people playing with money they can afford to lose.  The people who face risk are those who are getting cut because Outside doesn't feel they have the confidence to spend money on those staffers.

I looked up Thurston.  I don't know what percentage of MapMyFitness he owned, but he sold the company to UnderArmour for $150 million in 2013 and was employed by them for the next three years.  

When I was looking him up, I came across an interview he did where he said something that looks kind of hollow at this moment.  

"I would have grabbed that person (the younger Thurston) and said, overinvest in your team, whether that’s the type of people that you invested your time in hiring. The diversity of the team that we would have hired and how well you treat them from everything from compensation to equity to other benefits. I really would have said to do more because I think the outcome might have been different. "

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I’m big on this idea that you really have to motivate your team. If you don’t work on motivating your team, you simply aren’t going to get there. I know there are a lot of books that try to inspire you around motivating your team, but I think it has to come from you. It has to be really organic. You have to believe in what you are building in order for your team to respond to that, and then you have to make sure that you’re telling them. Any books in my mind that help the entrepreneur do that are going to ultimately help you craft a better story and message for your team."

https://alejandrocremades.com/robin-thurston/
mugwump said:
Jules said:
The "something" that changed is pretty straightforward: the risk free rate went from zero to four percent. Investments that "might" make 5% looked great (or reasonable) a year or two ago now look preposterous. Just to get the same return an investor would need 10% and zero risk. 


I wish there was another term besides "risk" for what seems to be rich people playing with money they can afford to lose.  The people who face risk are those who are getting cut because Outside doesn't feel they have the confidence to spend money on those staffers.


I think that the news is dominated with stories of rich individuals doing capricious things, but the institutions of money management are what drive this. The money custodians have to put it somewhere, and risk is the ruler that is used to evaluate the "wheres."

People aren't part of the equation in any way. (That's the system, and of course it's a human system that can be changed)

As for the talk of teams - it sounds to me like regret; maybe he thinks with more support of his team he could have made more money, or positioned himself better at UnderArmour. A three year term is pretty standard for a buyout; that he left right afterward tells you all you need to know about his value to them.
@Jules  

Looks like Robin Thurston got only an OK payout when MapMy was bought out by Under Armour.  Seems that his net worth is under $2 million (estimate) and that he sold about $1.6 million in UA stock over the past 7 years.

https://wallmine.com/people/92704/robin-thurston

I was thinking about the transcript on my Sunday ride.  The word "friction" got stuck in my head.  Thurston claimed he wanted to reduce it, but, in the context of Outside's properties, I don't think they've done much to change the amount of friction I experience.  Arguably, CyclingNews is doing a better job by linking reviews to affiliate links for product, though I don't like seeing those links.

And I found this article around Thurston and Outside in 2021.  Looking at teh vision he laid out then, it's hard to see how they were even following it for long.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2021/07/02/outside-magazine-membership-plan/
Saw this post about Lea Davison and her Pride Allied bike on the Allied website.

Sometimes, it's just an article.  Sometimes, it's a statement regarding a company's priorities.  Don't know which it is.

https://alliedcycleworks.com/blogs/stories/davison-s-bc40-her-true-colors-shining-through


https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/davide-rebellin-51-killed-in-collision-with-truck/

What ever his past , clearly lived to ride his bike , very tragic
Get your shakedry , while you can 
https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/pfc-bans-are-going-to-change-the-face-of-all-waterproof-garments/

I want to give praise to cyclingnews for this piece.  They did some research here.  
Coincidentally I recently waxed an old Levi’s cotton commuting cycling jacket which lost its spray based water proofing years ago and the thing keeps me bone dry now. Annoying and kind of messy process but ultimately nicer for the environment.
these news has been making the rounds… agree with JP the article is good… will add that my shake dry jacket is possibly the best piece of kit I have ever owned 
Oh man I do need a new rain jacket ....  When they say it's fragile, now fragile are we talking?
GregHoge said:
Oh man I do need a new rain jacket ....  When they say it's fragile, now fragile are we talking?
I’ve had no issues , mine is 3 years old