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Awww... the good old Babyfaced Assassin...

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attn detective yacks - http://cyclingtips.com.au/2014/07/tinkoff-saxo-tangle-with-belkin-bikes-identified-as-cause-of-snapped-contador-frame/


Don't let the facts get in the way of a good carbon-is-shit story !
Did anybody watch todays stage? You might have seen Patrick and myself inside the final kilometer before the final summit, cheering on the riders. This area is not far from where I now live, and part of the route went on roads that I occasionally frequent. What a day. When the race passed us, Roche was trying to get away, and just behind was the Nibali group, and then further on a couple other groups of riders with a few inbetween. And then a long wait until a Garmin rider, just in front of the broom wagon, in pain, clawing his way up the final climb. Talansky was the hero of the day.
What a stage !!!  Very exciting descents, narrow rolling roads...You had to be really attentive and know how to handle your bike.  I wish there were more stages like this one.  Those guys are freakin nutters on the descents.  I'de be off the back, off the road and hugging a tree after a descent like that...probably stuttering and twitching.
maybe they need to change his name to "Second Place Sagan"?  feels like he's missing some kick from past races.  cannondale gets to the front, but his leadout seems to disappear when it counts, leaving him to freelance.  what do the wise minds of kissena think about tthis?

i think my favorite part of this stage was listening to andre greipel arguing with sylvan chavanel at the back of the pack after their minor crash like a couple of Cat 4's.....
And they had to bitch at each other in English.
"Nibali admitted that he was not surprised to be asked a question about doping, nor indeed, did he seem irritated during his lengthy response. "Yes, I think it's normal [to be asked]," he said. "I had the same questions at the Giro last year and in the past too at training camps. It's clearly a very hot topic but I think that it's also something that's part of the past."

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/nibali-questioned-on-credibility-of-astana-team

This isn't to suggest he's clean.  However, he does deserve some kudos for addressing it without the histrionics of some other wearers of yellow.  
dstearns said:
maybe they need to change his name to "Second Place Sagan"?  feels like he's missing some kick from past races.  cannondale gets to the front, but his leadout seems to disappear when it counts, leaving him to freelance.  what do the wise minds of kissena think about tthis?

i think my favorite part of this stage was listening to andre greipel arguing with sylvan chavanel at the back of the pack after their minor crash like a couple of Cat 4's.....
Indeed, the argument in English was funny.  Chavanel, racing for QuickStep, must have had to master it there.  Greipel needed it for High Road.  

As for Sagan, I don't know if he's lost anything.  Kristoff climbed surprisingly well.  Sagan is the man to beat, which is why he's been trying the attacks.  yesterday and Sunday, he probably felt it was necessary to go on the attack because he'd have to parry attacks in the final few kilometers anyways.  By taking advantage of the descents, he could bring out a group that was willing to play with him knowing they didn't have a chance in the bunch sprint anyways.  

His team is in a difficult position.  If they don't ride early, the break sticks for good.  So they roll the dice and figure if they can keep it close until the final kilometers, Sagan is a top freelancer and can take the win anyways.  On stage 1, they were in pretty good position until Fabs pulled the attack at the kite.  Sagan arguably went too early, but Kittel was on fire.  On the second Kittel victory, I don't think anyone could have beaten Marcel.  Viviani and Sabatini are arguably on the squad as the final pilots for Sagan, but they've been called to duty much earlier in the day on the flat stages, and on the hilly ones, De Marchi and Marcato have done pretty well--you could suggest that they vacate the front on the final climbs of the past few days to save themselves for the end.  And maybe that would have been better, but then they would have been playing chicken with other teams, and might have ended up with nothing anyways.

Yesterday, Sagan reported being sick post-stage.  His downhill attack was excellent, but he probably needed a smaller group to succeed.  
Adding to the above...

The bigger surprises were on the stages to Sheffield and to Arenberg.  In Sheffield, it was surprising that Contador and Froome ride away in the final km.  It would have been more likely that the top three pre-race favorites would neutralize each other and allow the long-shot gc hopes and single-day riders to attack for the stage win.  In Arenberg, it was expected that Sagan, Cancellara, Boom, and Vanmarcke would ride away.  Kwiatkowski flatted ust in front of Cancellara and Sagan on a stretch were there was only one line on the stones.  But those two couldn't close the gap.  

Can't wait to see the science of sport data analysis of that climbing performance!
Where's Wiggo ?
Valverde is racing for second place.

When Nibali attacked, Valverde let Pinot work, shrugged off a request for help, attacked Pinot, failed, and then sat on Pinot until the final 200m, where he got three seconds on the Frenchman.  Meanwhile, if he had helped Pinot, he almost certainly would have pulled back far more time on Nibali.


This was hard to watch. Couldn't believe they caught him that close.
That's a wrap, no big surprises for the stage win or the yellow.  The battle for 2-5th place was great to watch though.  

I kind of loved this year's tour and we still have the sprint for Champs Elysees.  Kittel was looking gassed compared to Greipel in the mountains, but then again he may have been stone chillin' to save his legs for the final sprint.  Kristoff is also looking dangerous with 2 stage wins.  I think Phil and Paul randomly mentioned that Renshaw is hoping to give it a go, but I don't think he can hang with the big boys.  Sagan will take 2nd or 3rd again...
Fallon's take on the TDF.

http://youtu.be/WgPiM4c3Ovc



[Spoiler]Kittel crushed the sprint like a fratbro crushing an empty can on his head post-shotgun-chug. [/spoiler]
Wow.
Is the term 'Chinaman' racist?  Serious question.  I genuinely didn't think it was.
Yes.

Yes, and there's been plenty of controversy over it in the last 20 years that if you're in broadcasting, you should know better.
The dude is senile, and everyone knows it. Can't get my hate on for a man's brain decaying on television, although the folks continuing to broadcast him would like me to.
He ain't that senile....just ignorant...enjoy the tumblr love

http://firephilliggett.tumblr.com/

Sarah suggested perhaps he meant to say it in the way he might say, "Frenchman."
Marc, see Perlberg's comment above.
Marc, see Perlberg's comment above.
I totally agree. He should know better.
Hellooooo.....

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/more-sports/tour-de-france-biker-accused-doping-selfie-article-1.1881760



Even Walter knows better

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=GNGkHK8Umew#t=65
The title of this article can be read multiple ways.

http://www.supersport.com/cycling/tour-de-france/news/140727/Improved_drug_testing_helped_me_win_Nibali
BUMP!

http://velonews.competitor.com/2015/06/news/aso-to-deliver-real-time-data-from-tour-riders_375648