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4 large size jerseys for sale in fair condition.
$10 with the Redbeard logo
$5 with RB logo 
or $25 total.
Got a lil speckley with a non-matching pair of Oakleys 

Nice!
More like a little Boh-keth... see what I did there?
Useful tip

RECYCLED TYVEK ENVELOPES

In case you’ve never heard of it, Tyvek is what FedEx and a variety of other freight companies use for durable envelopes. It feels plasticky — and technically is plastic — but in reality, it’s a fabric-like sheet made of high-density polyethylene fibers. Those companies use it because it’s incredibly flexible, remarkably durable, and provides a surprising amount of protection from the elements.

Which is also why it’s so handy when riding in inclement weather.

Back in the day, riders used to stuff sheets of newspaper down their jerseys to keep chilling wind at bay on fast alpine descents, but newsprint is messy, and hardly durable (not to mention kind of hard to find these days). In contrast, Tyvek is totally impervious to wind, practically waterproof, and DuPont (the manufacturer of Tyvek) even claims the stuff is decently breathable, too.

Full-sized FedEx envelopes are almost perfectly sized for most torsos, and since the material is so thin, you can insert smaller pieces in between your socks and cycling shoes for times when a bootie is too hot, but an uncovered shoe is too cold. The stuff is also easy to fold and pack, meaning you can trim the stuff as needed and keep it in your seat pack or jersey pocket until it’s needed.

And best of all? It’s basically free.




I'm going to add that one to the arsenal this winter!
I wonder if USPS would ever be interested in sponsoring a cycling team, or something like that. 
Guru's of sartorial elegance,

Are cargo bib shorts hot or not? If hot, will they appear on Champ Sys at some point in the near future?

The reason for my question is that as the cyclocross season draws to a close, my thoughts turn to riding gravel. I understand that to truly ride gravel, one must be able to provide a series of moody looking insta posts which include a shot of a rider resting on his bike, crucially, with cargo bib shorts. Inside the cargo pocket on his/her raised right leg must be a silver/black retro inspired camera (but how is this photo being taken??!) in order to be proper/correct.

Potentially a series of force fed advertising images has entered my mind and clouded my thinking.... 
Cargo bibs are hot, but not required for gravel (or any type of riding), when colder temps hit, and jackets, vests and layers appear, it is important to have access to foods, gloves, keys, which is a good reason to love easy pockets, whether on the vests or shorts or whatever is your top layer. 

As an alternative, you'll see many riders, even pros, ride with a handlebar bottle bag, where foods, and often a camera are stored:
https://smile.amazon.com/kemimoto-Handlebar-Holder-Bicycle-Bottle/dp/B079QJS5P4/

https://smile.amazon.com/Bike-Bicycle-Water-Bottle-Holder/dp/B07TQHDN9S/


They seem more useful on those T-shirt day rides ,so popular "on instagram"
Velominati makes no mention of cargo pockets, only jersey pockets.  I don't believe this is anachronistic nor an oversight, as cargo pants and pockets have been around for quite some time.  As the history buffs might say, throughout history.
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This requires a strict interpretation of the rules, I believe, through a deconstructive perspective where the absence speaks greater than its inclusion.
I love my cargo shorts during commutes because of how easily accessible they make everything, but no mention in the rules suggests, to me, they are technically not allowed.  This is a commute, not a group ride, but still on a bicycle, and still accessible to any type of social media photograph or photobombing; especially dangerous when I choose to wear team gloves or cap beneath my helmet.
However, the idea of gravel riding means you'd be out of sight, so it would be fine not to follow the rules and risk being shunned?  But because the question is asked primarily because of how "grammable" this will be, I think to err on the side of caution would be wise.
while I don't think I'm every instagram-ready, I have my doubts about cargo pockets on cycling shorts/tights.  I'm far more worried about stuff coming out of them than I am stuff in my jersey pockets.  Maybe it's because legs are always moving around already, then add in the bumping and crashing.  

the only rule: as long as you look sharp, the Velominati rules are a dinosaur that should never be used or followed.

have witnessed the use of cargo shorts on gravel events, they appear totally useful and safe, just add a gel or two.
Any true gravel-dog will have a handlebar tube-shape bag. I’m not sure what goes in there, but it’s a must-have. 

^^^btw these would be great for a certain gravel rando in mid April (big ones good enough for 100k maybe)
Not sure about the handlebar bag but I think the mustache is mandatory.


i have major issues with people wearing cargo shorts at any time. They are an abomination. Therefore they should never be seen anywhere near a bicycle. THE END.


ian ellis said:
i have major issues with people wearing cargo shorts at any time. They are an abomination. Therefore they should never be seen anywhere near a bicycle. THE END.


we are not talking about the same things.
@eloy I am referring to these monstrosities 
Now, if you want to talk cargo kilts... that's a whole other animal


ian ellis said:
@eloy I am referring to these monstrosities 
then we are taking about the same things. haha. i don’t own any, but i’ve been in situations where i tuck a gel under the shorts — which makes me think there’s a place for these type of shorts.

check my left leg...

@ian ellis
one day you will embrace them and the new fancy clincher tires

Flop slots!! 🤣
Zip off cargo shorts , that’s what I need 

More importantly, we should get denim jackets for riding purposes next order. Rode in one this morning. They're warm and with the added benefit of looking Sharp. Plus as the weather gets nicer, cut the sleeves off and you got a vest. 
Who do you think you are ?
Related image
https://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/product-news/worst-pro-cycling-kits-202469
I like a few of those kits. What does that say about me?