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NYC Spring Series

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FYI, that question was aimed at JP but I welcome any comments.
Where are the overall point standings posted?
@Craig. Pay no attention to bikereg. Download the flyer. Here are the start times for 4/13:

 april 13, 2014 sunday venue floyd bennett field
pro,1,2,3 laps    30 follows 3,4     pre entry $35.00 Prize $550
category 3,4 laps 20 follows masters pre entry $35.00 Prize $285
masters 45+ laps  20 follows cat 5   pre entry $35.00 Prize $250
category 5 laps   12 start 7:00AM    pre entry $35.00 Prize trophy

Anthony Van Dunk is not of this Earth and operates above concepts like time and space.

Floyd races will not start at 6am. Some may question if they even start at all.

Unlike the parks, Floyd does not have strict bike race timing requirements, especially on the weekends. I would expect AVD to send out an email (or potentially tweet) start times at around 11pm on the night before the race.

Thanks for playing.

... also, no TT Andy.
For what it's worth I was looking at the Prospect Park and 2 FBF races on
the weekend of the 20th and the 27th. Start times are listed as 6am and
6:30. Riding to Prospect for me from hell's kicthen to make a 6am start
means leaving my place at 4:30am to get there with time to pin my number
and line up.

FBF is about 18 miles one way- not sure if taking the subway would be
better or what.


On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 1:34 PM, vlad <
Don't expect typical (tues/thurs night) course layouts at AVD's Floyd races either.
Whats up with this AVD guy? Is there a back story- What time did these races go off last year at FBF/ PP.
Dude, relax. He's nuts. Things will reveal themselves in due time. If you want to race the SS at Floyd, just commit to it spiritually. That's about all you can do for now.
@Chief I was planning on riding masters Sunday, as I have a good shot at the podium. But if you think you need the help I can switch over. Just let me know ASAP.
Done – reg'd 123. I will hand sling you in the sprint.

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I'm 80% in.
I have no idea what those rankings are for.


"Points in bold are being considered for the current points. Green points are the best five races out of your last ten (within 12 months) -- the average of these are your current points"

What time are brooklyn folks meeting at the Brooklyn bridge? 
530 


We should decide as a team how we're riding this race. The usual? Or strictly for JP getting placing/money/points? Because it makes a difference should one of us get in a break.
All in for JP's series position. 
I reckon Perlberg and JP ride as a protected unit and we get them into a break or across to break. If it's all together, try get JP away in HS alley.
The tactics JP can decide on the road.
Hey Marc, remember that one CP race where you finished ahead of Niki Terpstra?
vlad said:
Hey Marc, remember that one CP race where you finished ahead of Niki Terpstra?
Ha! Who knew? Nice find! Looking forward to racing with a strong team tomorrow.

All in for JP's series position. 
I reckon Perlberg and JP ride as a protected unit and we get them into a break or across to break. If it's all together, try get JP away in HS alley.
The tactics JP can decide on the road.
Unless there is a huge day of registration surge, it won't stay together. 

We should dictate the race and put 3+ guys in the break. Right now, we look to be almost 25% of the field.  



I predict a registration surge. I predict Foundation wins from the break. We need to get in that move.

Lately,  the SS break gets established on the first lap, maybe beginning of the second. Then the field sits up and gets passed by all the others on the course.

My suggestion is to make it fast early and stay up front. We have the numbers to be in every move. Thinking that JP, Perlberg, and Ragot are our best bets from the break.

Okay then but, if Vlad, Malcolmson or Bertucco gets in a break without JP in it...do we work to help the break stay away?

I guess it sounds like Perlberg and Ragot get freedom to go for the win if in break?

JP...some input from you would be helpful.
what to do...
Marc,

I that situation I think you should conserve and go for the win. No sense in dragging series competitors away from JP, tiring yourself, and getting last in the break. SIt in, go for the win. 
That said, if you drove the break and settled for a top 10, id be super psyched for you and would bridge, block, etc. In support

So maybe we've stumbled upon a strategy here. We send some guys up the road early. Maybe this is John, Vlad, and Marc. 

If those moves stick, those guys go for it the win.

If we get close, Eric, JP, and myself and bridge or counter attack. 




That said... who are the series compeditors? who should be kept an eye on?
Watchung has been using the tactic of sending their riders up the road, even if those riders aren't "protected" then they have been able to stick two or three of their guys in the breaks because the rest of the team is able to take rides up to the break. Other riders and teams just cant' cover.

I thing that maybe Vlad or Marc should be taking the early shots and just hang out there, we'll try to send reinforcements across.
I can't be there but I'll say the same thing I said to Ragot before Branchbrook this year: leaders have to be bossy both beforehand and on the road and make sure people know what you want. Most of us in the 123 are fairly race savvy at this point but we don't all have the decades of experience that some of you have.

If the team is working for JP, it needs to know clearly how he wants the race to play out so we can make decisions that help him. Maybe that means guys up the road. Maybe that means using our horsepower to keep things together.

It's a club and everyone always has the right to choose to race for themselves if they prefer - although in this club selfish racing is not normally the culture. But leaders have to be clear about what is wanted.