Mar 03, 2015 at 02:43 PM

@Eloy You're not alone: https://support.zwift.com/hc/communities/public/questions/201881589-Crashes-on-startup-on-Mac

One workaround for Mac users would be too run it on Windows via Bootcamp or Parallels https://www.parallels.com/products/desktop/

eloy

Mar 03, 2015 at 04:35 PM

Thanks, Johny!

This sorta stuff is expected on a beta. Did get a very quick reply back from Zwift, explaining that they had troubles this morning. It should all be ok now.

---- my motivation to spin up a windows instance for this is zero. but if I was I would suggest virtualBox.

cheers!!

JohnMalcolmson

Mar 03, 2015 at 05:45 PM

You're welcome Eloy. I hope their Mac dev team is solid. I wonder why they started with PC first? Is it easier to port PC -> Mac?

eloy

Mar 03, 2015 at 06:57 PM

I don't think is easier to port one way or the other, my guess is that they went with the old school notion that there are more people on windows.

As mentioned before, whatever the reason, ANT+ or bluetooth, Windows or Mac, you have to start somewhere.

Judging from the bug this morning, it would seem that they have built a platform the proper way, where most of it is happening on their servers -- and the user interface on windows or OSX or iOS or android or whatever, simply reaches out to the same API.

Unfortunately, this morning they made a change to that API that broke the OSX experience.

But, um, I'm just speculating.

We can ask Charlie next time we see him.

vlad

Mar 03, 2015 at 11:50 PM

Old school notion?

Mac sales are growing, but there's a long way to go. Different story for iOS and Android though. It seems like airplaying from an iOS app is probably better than messing with OSX, but they're close.

Hopefully they'll sort it out and introduce Bluetooth pairing soon.

Jeffrey White

Mar 05, 2015 at 02:13 AM

I Zwifted tonight. Very interesting. Definitely rode harder than I would have if I didn't have it (for better or worse). I ended up chasing Josh Sakofsky around for awhile for no reason in particular.

Craig London

Mar 05, 2015 at 03:12 PM

I used Zwift the past 2 nights. Not something I would pay $10/month for when they start charging. With mac you can't listen to music on the computer via dongle bc the Zwift island sounds just become deafening. Cool concept but maybe I'm just desensitized from riding tons on the trainer indoors watching TV this winter.

Jules

Mar 05, 2015 at 03:23 PM

I agree Craig, it's certainly not yet something they can charge for, if ever. Per user charge is the wrong model imho.

eloy

Mar 05, 2015 at 03:49 PM

If it is $10 a month, I would pay for it. But not much more. Per use probably wouldn't do.

I watched Omloop over Zwift and had no real problem with audio, I'm connected to my TV via HDMI, which perhaps is different than your system.

Right now there's not a whole lot of control on Zwift Mac, it is either ride or stopped and that's basically it. A mature non beta version should allow for many more options, different views, and obviously to adjust volume and mute/allow certain sounds.

vlad

Mar 05, 2015 at 05:09 PM

Freemium. In app purchases for enhanced or special features (i.e. ride with Jens). I could see Pewtiepie style coaching too.

It's a platform. I bet endgame for them is for Strava, Garmin, or even TP to buy them and fold them into their service.

Subscription is a mistake IMO because of seasonal use, which translates hemispherically (i.e. no use in June in NYC, heavy use in June in Buenos Aires) and introduces seasonal latency concerns.

I say Strava buys them.

Jules

Mar 05, 2015 at 10:18 PM

Ill take the other side of that bet.

twoyacks

Mar 06, 2015 at 01:11 AM

Screw ZWIFT Island....I got me a TRAINGPEAKS basement !

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jim_nelson

Oct 01, 2015 at 12:13 AM

I finally got the Kickr and a cheap computer and rode Zwift for the first time tonight. Just did one lap as a test but I certainly worked hard. The KOM is a solid effort and it was fun to try and work out the drafting and group riding aspects. I'll definitely be using it over the winter though probably not exclusively cause trainer time is my only tv/movie time. And it would be fun to set up some online Kissena meetups.

JohnMalcolmson

Oct 01, 2015 at 12:18 AM

Jim, I get the Ant+ tomorrow so let's ride! THey had the Richmond worlds circuit on there, anyone ride it?

Mark Clifford

Oct 01, 2015 at 02:24 AM

^ Yep. I must admit it was pretty cool to "ride" it then watch the big boys on the real course. But I think they dropped the course now Worlds is over.

I'd be up for a virtual team ride for sure.

jim_nelson

Oct 01, 2015 at 12:20 PM

I think I heard they intend on keeping the Richmond course around for a while but not cycling it in as often and that eventually you'll be able to choose your course but for now they want to make sure there is a good number of folks on the course at any one time.

I rode it again this morning - hopped on at 5:45am and there were folks from all over the world; about 70 riders at that time of day. Last night (about 7:00pm) there were about 100, mostly from the US.

JohnMalcolmson

Oct 01, 2015 at 03:46 PM

I loaded the Richmond course but something just doesn't seem quite right, maybe it's my Ant+...
http://bit.ly/1QN1nKQ

David Yang

Oct 02, 2015 at 03:35 PM

Okay you guys convinced me, I'm getting a stupid dongle and setting up an account (you don't need an invite anymore?).

jim_nelson

Oct 02, 2015 at 03:58 PM

Just got the email this morning that BETA is coming to an end. Pay to start soon.

I'm hoping they arrange it so you can suspend your account during non-trainer months. I would hesitate to be locked into a monthly payment during the summer.

David Yang

Oct 02, 2015 at 04:06 PM

Did they send out any pricing/plan details?

JohnMalcolmson

Oct 02, 2015 at 04:53 PM

@David Yang When they come out of Beta (mid-fall sometime) they will have Bluetooth Smart support via the iphone app. So perhaps hold off on the Ant+.

jim_nelson

Oct 02, 2015 at 05:28 PM

Here's what the email said:

This month we'll be ending our Beta period and moving to a monthly subscription model. How much will it cost? We’ll announce all the details soon, but what we can say is that it will run you less than a few lattes a month. And we love coffee.

To recognize all who participated in the Beta, you’ll receive an exclusive founding member virtual kit, so when you’re out riding in Watopia people will know you were there from the start.

Along with the subscription, we plan to introduce the beta version of our long awaited workout mode. We’ll also be announcing a cool partnership with the largest independent social network for athletes and a host of other exciting news.

Our #zwiftstory is just beginning and we’re excited you’re along for the journey. Together we’re changing the way people look at indoor cycling. It’s something we like to call the #zwifteffect.

Stay tuned, spread the word #GoZwift and Ride On.

- The Team at Zwift

JohnMalcolmson

Oct 02, 2015 at 05:36 PM

Richmond course schedule...

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David Yang

Oct 02, 2015 at 06:14 PM

jim_nelson said:

Here's what the email said:

...We’ll also be announcing a cool partnership with the largest independent social network for athletes and a host of other exciting news....

Not quite what Vlad predicted, but I mean, who else could it be but Strava?...

Thanks for the heads up John, but I'm on Android.

JohnMalcolmson

Oct 03, 2015 at 02:23 AM

A pretty neat happening on Sunday: a running commentary from Jensie while you ride with him on the Richmond course simulation!

Image: https://ci5.googleusercontent.com/proxy/w0ouh7i1OVv4bE8uNBmIxkts_G_czv4P4qI4B_AMdmLBzj5KPl_V1t5JXyQ_qEvGZgQWFpOYL5ZhTfLAItdm0Fl4mH4qn0DFKwGRoIYmMzjMqCYvMOXsPQZ3qUIFk0X9IHpp=s0-d-e1-ft#http://images.mxpnl.com/413469/1443827936593.275443.JensieGranFondo_Email.jpg

Hey Zwifters!

Just wanted to give you a heads up that next Saturday, October 10th, is the inaugural Jensie Gran Fondo of Marin, California.

Since Jensie loves Zwifting, he decided to sneak in some last minute training on the Richmond Course this Sunday, October 4th at 09:00 PDT / 12:00 EDT / 17:00 BST / 18:00 CET. He will lead a one hour group ride (no racing - he's retired) from his basement in Berlin. He likes to talk so we’re giving him a live audio feed to discuss his upcoming Gran Fondo, retirement and answer as many questions as possible you message him through Zwift Mobile Link.

Ground rules:

1) Log in early! We recommend 20 minutes before the start

2) Hit "p" on your keyboard to unlock the Jensie Gran Fondo kit with the code "JENSIE"

3) When prompted, click on "Join" to start the live audio feed

JohnMalcolmson

Oct 10, 2015 at 01:04 AM

Aw yeah.