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Superman! Fighting was crazy funny , but also not 
I sought of felt bad for the fan after a while .
Roglic’s “uncle” running along for what felt like an age pushing him up the climb was bizarre 
Chad Haga's tweets have been awesome all race. That he won today is just icing, awesome icing.


What a race. Amazing how a guy can transition from ski jumper to Grand Tour top 3 and have the press say he "lost."
"Sometimes a win is more than just a win"

A 5 minutes video on Chad Haga's preparation, and eventual win, of the TT.


Granted, as amateurs it is hard to find the time to do something like this, but Chad's planning and course recce is something we all have the potential to match.
"The will to succeed is the will to prepare."
This video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dqh0vxyZGE
eloy said:
This gave me legit goosebumps. 
welp, it's pretty ironic that Ineos's last hope for Grand Tour success this year is falling back on Froome
welp, it's pretty ironic that Ineos's last hope for Grand Tour success this year is falling back on Froome
judging by his LBL ride, they might need to hope for someone else.
I should have placed on bet on Thomas crashing 'out' of the GC. He is one of those riders who seems to have a far greater than average number of crashes (especially when in great form and up for a win). This is second Giro for this to happen, he got blown into a ditch in Ghent-Wevelgem, slid out of the lead group at Flanders, rode off the side of the road in a tour, etc.

He is like the modern incarnation of Alex Zulle.
He actually seemed to be pretty unlucky with this one 

https://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/racing/giro-ditalia/watch-fan-video-shows-geraint-thomas-nasty-crash-at-giro-ditalia-471661
Chad Haga responded to a tweet by Inrng that the peloton had just gone over an intersection with lots of flagstones which is why you see a half dozen bottles shooting about on the video. You can see that G’s front wheel hit a Bahrain bottle and he went down hard immediately. This was not a bike handling issue. 

I thought that having won the tour he wasn’t going to be the magnet for bad luck that has plagued him in the past 

https://twitter.com/inrng/status/1313140496773140486?s=21


I feel for G, he looked like he was going to make good on focusing on the giro. Interestingly, I heard in a podcast the other day that world tour water bottles need to meet a specific standard so that when they are run over, the cap pops off. That seems to be why so many teams use the same tacx or elite bottles. I imagine it is still pretty jarring to hit one of those bad boys at speed. 
Also the bottles would be full
I feel for G, he looked like he was going to make good on focusing on the giro. Interestingly, I heard in a podcast the other day that world tour water bottles need to meet a specific standard so that when they are run over, the cap pops off. That seems to be why so many teams use the same tacx or elite bottles. I imagine it is still pretty jarring to hit one of those bad boys at speed. 
Which podast?
It was mentioned on the Trainer Road podcast (I think the most recent ep?). Someone asked why most road cyclists use small 20oz water bottles when triathletes use much larger ones. The host Amber mentioned that pros use smaller ones because they can always get a bottle from the team car but are also limited by race org rules. They noted that thats why some of those Tacx/Elite bottles can feel kinda flimsy/flexible. I think the idea is they'll bust open full or empty. 

edit: I can't find anything online about this, so maybe it was something someone had suggested to Amber but isn't an official rule lol. Here is the clip though (1:55:10)

https://youtu.be/cjNWpQbWQJY?t=6909
Thanks Im a fan of that podcast but hadnt heard the explodey-bottle idea. I remember stage 1 of the kmsr and some kid lost a bottle on the big descent right in front of me - so much terror
I’m pretty sure I heard that in your de France commentary also
Broken Pelvis for G. 


@RobertMullen @Jules this article sheds some light on the bottle cap popping off idea. Cancellara pushed to make that a rule for bottles after he was taken out by one at the 2012 Tour of Flanders, but his proposal never got anywhere.

https://cyclingtips.com/2020/10/a-simple-bottle-cage-rule-couldve-prevented-geraint-thomas-giro-crash/


The exploding bottle is not a new idea. All bidons used to have push on caps (i am not sure they had developed the technology to cut threads into plastic).

I am not sure when they changed to screw on tops, but I remember riding with them (in fact in my avatar i still have one).

And as that cyclingtips article says - metal cages that can be bent by hand to secure the bottle more tightly.

Finally, I am not sure when the UCI allowed bottle feeds from the side of the road, but this is clearly a bad idea. I saw bottles dropped during the snatch with alarming regularity during the Tour and now the Giro. They should revert to having a bottle in the musette available during the official feed and the domestiques can return to their role as watercarriers.
I'm happy for Dowsett today! His online content helps humanize pro cycling and he seems like a good dude. 

Sadly, it'll probably overshadowed by Yates' positive COVID test. It seems like the Giro isn't really doing much about it besides rapidly testing everyone on the team (who somehow all came back with negatives). Regardless, somehow, COVID is in the peloton. 

https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/simon-yates-positive-test-for-covid-19-comes-as-surprise-to-mitchelton-scott/
Agree with the Dowsett win , props to his team mate he mentioned afterwards that he was all in for Alex because he didn’t have a contract for next year

This really show cases his character 

https://youtu.be/VR7oyZD2Hho
https://youtu.be/WmssSEzh114
It's easy to get jaded watching the big guns fight for podium spots. I love it when we get reminded how hard that top step is to get on, even for the people who make their living racing bikes in the World Tour.
Larry warbasse post race interview , so great 

This video is 🔥 via @FloSports App
https://www.flobikes.com/video/6798637-larry-warbasse-guerrero-was-riding-like-a-real-a-hole-today
Mitchelton Scott and Jumbo Visma pulled their entire teams after positive tests, and staff members on Ineos and AG2R tested positive as well. Curious to know if the organizers are going to keep pushing ahead/what other teams are going to do
Noises coming out of JV is that the "bubbles" the teams are in aren't particularly secure...Sharing hotels between 4 teams, moto riders, shimano support team, general public...
It's insane how inept the UCI is when it comes to enforcing it's own rules that aren't absurd (I'm looking at you sock length rule)
Noises coming out of JV is that the "bubbles" the teams are in aren't particularly secure...Sharing hotels between 4 teams, moto riders, shimano support team, general public...
He also mention quick steps ,hotels similar