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I love that plan, Patrick, and I'm super committed to making it work one of these days, but I'm out of town this weekend. I had thought about delaying our departure so I could race, but will use the weekend to focus on hills ahead of KSR. Good luck, guys!
Pot hole struck at bottom of hill lap 9ish both tubulars blow Yacks keeps shit up right and is able to make it through the turn and stop...long walk back to finish
I rode around the park 9 times.
twoyacks said:
Pot hole struck at bottom of hill lap 9ish both tubulars blow Yacks keeps shit up right and is able to make it through the turn and stop...long walk back to finish
Sorry I didn't have 2 tubulars on me Yacks!

I rode in pp while the race was going on and counted 11 guys with flats. Better bring out the gatorskins 
That was funny....you asked me if I needed a tube and I said, "tube-ular...and make that 2 of em"
Bottom of the descent on the last lap a guy went down about 4 guys in front of me. I dont know if it was pot hole related. People slowed down and I thought I was going to stay up but the domino effect as inevitable and I went down and someone landed on me.  A little road ras, a cut on my knee from someone's chain ring and a bruised calf but otherwise okay. Bike seems okay but I lost my glasses. I went back to the scene to look for them and saw 3 ambulances patching people up. I think about 8-10 guys went down. Incidentally Lorenzo who was pretty banged up said that the saw my glasses and thought a Major Taylor guy grabbed them. Anyone have any ideas in how to reach out to try to retrieve them?

Oh and @David Gardiner when are you going to start racing? We could use you out there. 
When I was walking back up the hill an ambulance just arrived to help some dudes who were down...that pot hole was a sniper this morning
Always fun to be neutralized by two cat5s in a break. Unbelievable.
Bottom of the descent on the last lap a guy went down about 4 guys in front of me. I dont know if it was pot hole related. People slowed down and I thought I was going to stay up but the domino effect as inevitable and I went down and someone landed on me.  A little road ras, a cut on my knee from someone's chain ring and a bruised calf but otherwise okay. Bike seems okay but I lost my glasses. I went back to the scene to look for them and saw 3 ambulances patching people up. I think about 8-10 guys went down. Incidentally Lorenzo who was pretty banged up said that the saw my glasses and thought a Major Taylor guy grabbed them. Anyone have any ideas in how to reach out to try to retrieve them?

Oh and @David Gardiner when are you going to start racing? We could use you out there. 
A bit scared to come back after seeing those crashes today.
It's the pot holes... If they fill them in there will be less crashes. I'm riding my clinchers until the repairs are made.  
Warm and overcast today with some rain on the course for a lap or two.

A little more energy in the Cat 4 race, though as Phil mentioned, we were neutralized because of 2 Cat 5 riders off the front.  They passed us and stayed in front of us, causing havoc with one of our sprints and a KOM.

On another lap, some guys went off the front, as did I, I passed them, saw Josh Hartman in his yellow kit on the right, bridged to him then jumped on the two wheels to my left.  The moto guy said I couldn't mix fields.  I looked at their numbers - still the Cat 5s!  I wasn't paying attention and bridged to them.  Oops, wasted effort.
Patrick rightfully chided me as the pack rode up. 

And then there was a cluster f**K at the top of the hill when the moto was getting squeezed to the right as people were trying to pass him and riders hit the curb.  
We've seen this before, when strong riders, or higher categories in other countries, have to go through the paces of cat 5 here.  It causes real issues in Prospect Park, and other races.  So it goes.

Highlights included a Foundation guy sprinting to the front to yell at a guy to stay the F out of his way.  Same guy, on the last lap, rolled over the joggers stripes to get up front and then had nothing left before getting to the base of the uphill.  Anger just doesn't sustain in a race.

Also, next to me on the last lap, just before the old start/finish, a pop and then a Frenchman swearing.  Thierry, heroically, finished the race with a flat tire.  I see you on the results - inspiring.  Well done.  Too many damned flats out there, though.  Almost not worth it.

Wes came in 3rd and got his final Cat 3 upgrade points and said he's putting in for the upgrade today.  He was always at the front on each of these races and he never broke a sweat.  I congratulated him and told him he definitely needs to be in races that are more challenging for him.

Patrick rode strong and looked good, as did Thierry, Phil.  Damn, sorry to hear about your flat, Jay, but you weren't alone.

We did see an ambulance at the bottom of the hill on two laps, and then another ambulance pull out once we were done with our race.  Never something I like to see.

Patrick came in 11th, nicely done.  Especially considering the bunch we were in on the final uphill.  We had relatively fresh legs from all the slow downs, which made for a messy finish.
I also rode 9 laps around the park , with the pack , which for me was a huge success
Yacks, how do you double pinch flat tubulars?! Gads. Check those hoops good for bulges of the brake track and cracked spoke holes.
You hit a deep pot hole at 38 mph while in the drops (good thing I was in the drops). The tires were pretty narrow (22mm).  Today I am having my bulbous 25mm vittoria's moved over from my aluminum tubs.  That hole at the bottom of the hill claimed many people's skin and bones last weekend.  The venue is becoming more unsafe.  The chicane before the old finish is dodgy...getting squeezed there every week.  Pot holes at the bottom of a 40mph descent = not safe...Forget about the sprinting for 20th bs...this is a life/death situation...someone is going to get killed or crippled
sorry, what?!? are we talking about prospect park? "the chicane before the old finish" what?!? dude, there no chicanes in Prospect, actually, there are no chicanes in all of brooklyn.

yes, it is not as nice as other years, but prospect remains one of the best surfaces we'll ever race.

there are some holes, there always are, they don't move, they'll be in the same spot every lap, and yeah, I get it, sometimes you can't avoid them, but in general, here's a tip: don't hit them. seriously, this is easy stuff.
^ Words fail me for this comment
Sorry....I'm a bitter Jones after watching $200 worth of tubulars go poof...and my short life flash before my eyes...the chicane is that little serpentine bit the road does where they laid down those new beefy curbs near the rink...a rather portly woman on a cruiser infiltrated the race there last weekend and nearly ended my race, just before that portly pot hole finished the job.  Eloy after 20 years racing in Prospect I am aware of road conditions and can say with a degree of certitude that it is currently the worst it has ever been.
Adam said:
^ Words fail me for this comment
Mine or Eloys ?
twoyacks said:
after watching $200 worth of tubulars go poof...

totally get that

Eloy's
Maybe it's time to start spray painting penises on the park road.
Ok folks, there is now a 311 iphone app. Download it. Spend 30 minutes and report the ever loving shit out of every road surface defect you find in PP.

Then tell your friends. Tell your friends' friends.

Rinse, repeat.
I'm going with the penis option...
Jules said:
Ok folks, there is now a 311 iphone app. Download it. Spend 30 minutes and report the ever loving shit out of every road surface defect you find in PP.

Then tell your friends. Tell your friends' friends.

Rinse, repeat.
This is a great idea.  

What would help me, and others who aren't in Prospect regularly or just don't pay much attention, is some way of describing where the big holes are.

In Central Park, the streetlights have numbers on them.  Things like W981, for west 98th street light 1.  Is there any system like this in Prospect so we can all repeat the same info to the 311 person?
The holes are the things with the penis's drawn around them.

Duh.
Jules said:
Ok folks, there is now a 311 iphone app. Download it. Spend 30 minutes and report the ever loving shit out of every road surface defect you find in PP.

Then tell your friends. Tell your friends' friends.

Rinse, repeat.
Here's another means to flood the city with reports:

http://thedailypothole.tumblr.com/

or go directly to:

http://a841-dotvweb01.nyc.gov/Potholeform/ViewController/CreateComplaint.aspx

I have no idea how effective this can be, but hopefully worth trying.


I'm the only Kissena to pre-reg for the 1/2/3 field Saturday???  Hey Kissena 


chris yack malverne NY
Kissena bike club
6/03/15
J.P. Partland New York NY 6/04/15



There are something like 13 Foundation riders in the race.  I'm far more concerned about that. 

Why not join us?  
13 !  A stronger rider might be concerned about which Foundation guys to follow...pretty sure I can't follow any of em....so I have little concern