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Cyclocross!

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Revised and reposted to include two racers (Daniel H and David S) previously, and inadvertently, left out of the fun...


1. After another solid 14th place in the "Elite" Master's race at Whirlybird, Eric Ragot holds onto #1 with  272.51 points.

2. James Feehan with 376.83 holds onto #2 after continuing with really consistent results at Charm City (24) and Whirlybird (21). I hope he decides to do the KCC CX Champs, because I'd like to see how he stacks up against Ragot, McGloughlin and some of our stronger cat 4s.

3. Todd McGloughlin with 376.2 points is starting 2012, where he left off last year racing the cat 3s. A solid 30th place earns him third in the rankings. According to crossresults, he should be above Feehan and in 2nd, but we have to wait to see if he can keep up the results once he has a few more races under his belt.

4. Jules Roazen with 426.55 is next on our list. At Whirlybird, he just missed cracking the top 10 for the third time this season. His points suggest he should be in #5, but based on field size and overall competitiveness, I gotta give the edge to the Canadian Ginger.

5. David Stokes scores another top 10 in the 55+ category and that bodes well for the rest of the season, but the MAC series 55+ start lists have been small. So cross-category comparisons are difficult...but not impossible for this opinionated pontif.

6. Jeffrey White, grabs hold of the #6 spot with his strong 18th finish at Whirlybird following a good day 1 at Nittany. Day 2 he mechanicaled himself out of contention. He's got 498.22 points.

7. James Nelson, with 423.83 points, might be in contention for the #6 spot, but not this week. They've both been doing the MAC races and White's placings THIS year have been just a bit better.

8. William Doyle-Capitman, races the low-point scoring, ultra competitive 2/3/4 fields has earned himself 423.62 points, and would no doubt be a force on the HotCrossList...if he raced more. Dude mutters to himself about "other responsibilities" and won't be in action for the next 3 weekends. He'll drop even further in weeks to come if he doesn't get muddy with us.

9. Joe Mueller with 442.2 points is hanging out above other Cat 4 stand-outs Chiles and de Baca, largely because he's such a beast, and scored 3rd place at the always muddy and challenging Harriman course.

10. Derek Chiles with 428.25 points has had some nice battles at Nittany with other Kissena's including Joaquin de Baca, whom he edged out on both days. Plus, this dude goes out and races Cross Crusade races, so I gotta give him the lead here.

11. Patrick Grehan finished in 22nd place at Whirlybird and last year's 4th at Super Cross has earned him this spot, this week. He's strong, no doubt and is in prime position to crack the top 10 if he continues to race.

12. Joaquin de Baca with 474.01 points rounds out Kissena's top 12. He has been at times, the club's strongest road rider (finishing top 20 at a Bear Mountain 1/2/3 race a few years back), but he has not been racing much the past two years. Strong finishes at Nittany show he's back on track and he'll be lining up with the some of the best 4s in the land this weekend up at Providence.

13. Lucky 13! Marc Bertucco, me, with 414.94 has among the lowest point totals on the team. And if I was handicapped by poor starting positions at Nittany, I had no excuses up in Gloucester. Front row both days. Weak racing saw me fall back in the mid 20s to low 30s. I've still got good start position for Providence (yay math!), but Joaquin is going to be starting around where I've been finishing in the New England races...so will I fall back, will Joaquin move up? And Ben Reid isn't too far behind him. This should be interesting!

14. Dan Strika is another one of the team's quiet assassins, Dan has more cross races under his belt than most, so he knows how to drive. But he races the same ultra competitive 45+ Master's races that Jim Feehan does. While Jim is tickling the top 20 though, Dan with 503 points is flirting with placings in the 60s at the big races.

15. Daniel Hubbard has a pretty impressive Elite/semi-pro road racing resume that goes a few years back. He's now lining up with Cat 3s and/or Masters these days and for his first race of the year, this was no exception. He finished closer to the back than the front. He's one of many Kissena's in the "1/2 dozen" club, namely, including last year and this, raced about 6 events. He's got plenty of experience so don't be surprised if he starts finishing closer to the front of the cat 3 fields this year if he keeps racing. 560 points.

16. Ben Reid is poised to move up a few spots with strong performances this weekend. He's got 510 points, but has finished mid-pack both days at Gloucester amongst tough fields and tougher race conditions.

17. Keith Snyder is new to the list, but moving up 50 guys on day 2 of the extremely challenging Gloucester to finish in 50th place cannot be ignored. We'll see if he races more, but given what I've seen so far...he might rocket far up the list in a hurry. Right now, he'll have to hang out in 15th.

18. James Gironta had a solid finish at Harriman, and is a mid-packer in the bigger Mac races so far this year.

19. David Sanossian is one of the huge group of Cat 4s on Kissena and he had a respectable performance at the Harriman State Park course finishing top half of the field like he did for most of the handful of races he did last year. 507 points.

20. Joshua Ceasar continues to show improvement from last year, but he's got to get the eye-of-the-tiger during hectic starts if he wants to be competitive with our obscenely strong crew of "Cat 4s."
Kool Keith said even Myerson has abandoned the step-through recently.
Adam is another fashion victim.  He's only abandoned it because Powers et al have already done so.  
Wait, that makes me a fashion victim too....COOL! Finally, success at something after years of ineptiitude.
Burney's book teaches step-through. Nuff said. Except that I sometimes I step back.
Dare I ask "who is Burney?"
Simon Burney wrote the cyclocross bible.

http://www.amazon.com/Cyclocross-Training-Technique-Simon-Burney/dp/1934030058/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1349396697&sr=8-1&keywords=simon+burney


There is no way a man named "Simon Burney" wrote the cyclocross bible. End of story.
^ordered
He also coached Beat Wabel.

I'm going to take the cross bike to PP in the morning for some fun. GAP about 6:15 if anyone wants to join.

Its funny. When I started riding CX, I was self-taught. I did the step behind. I did it because it felt natural. I had no problem on fast dismounts of the kind where you descend a hill, crank across a field and then hit a double barrier on the flats. I'm talking stumbling speed.

Then I learned about the step through from Mike Yozell as I watched him teach a clinic at HPCX (old version by the river). So, I started to work on that and over time taught people how to step through. I've always maintained that depending on the situation, you use either one.

I've always stepped behind on slow dismounts going uphill because you are pushing with your right leg on a slow section to start the movement off.

I find that if you have time to setup you really have your choice and it doesn't matter. If you need to dismount quickly as in you misjudged the obstacle and need to get off NOW, then you won't have time to step through and remarkably you'll still clear the barrier and wonder how you did it without stepping through.

In a similar vein - Myles and JP insist on unclipping with left foot, standing on that pedal, unclip right foot, swong right leg over bike while standing on unclipped left foot... This was a style of some New England racers that both were friendly with. I've never gotten comfortable with this style. So, I don't use it, don't teach it and don't advocate it. I just don't have disengagement problems (note, when I had cheap knockoff SPD pedals, I failed to unclip once - I don't have those pedals anymore!).

So, to each their own.

Simon is a many name.

HPCX (10/30) and Fair Hill (11/10), both MAC races, are now listed on Bikereg.
 
HPCX is here: bikereg.com/Net/17511; and Fair Hill is here: bikereg.com/Net/17493.
 
Registration for HPCX opens Saturday, 10/6 (tomorrow) at 12:01 AM, and registration for Fair Hill opens Sunday, 10/7 at 12:01 AM.
 
Just a heads up, Fair Hall is the same day as Staten - though based on the schedule you could try to double up (paging Diamond Joe ?) 
<START GRIPE> .....reg opens at 12:01am..on a weekend day...right before a race.......grumble grumble grumble...so you sleep well for your race or wake up to reg...not call ...<END GRIPE>

9am HPCX, 9:40am finish, 10 min change into a suit, throw bike into car, 1:03 drive to DUMBO, 7 min to find parking and head in for an 11am wedding.......maybe I'm just bummed since I can't race. I was told the wedding was "wear whatever you want"...but I don't think a muddy skinsuit qualifies.
David Sanossian and I are meeting up at Cunningham on Saturday at 3 for some CX practice if anyone wants to join.

BTW, I'm happy hpcx is running. Maybe we'll see Jeff O in fish nets again!
Also, HPCX is Sunday the 28th. Not the 30th
Midnight reg before another race in the same series is bullshit, plan & simple.
What are they thinking?
@Jules - Masters is calling your name...
@Eric I'll take my 45+ medicine when it's time but I'm gonna go down swinging...
@jules 35+ medicine...
Of course if midatlantic organizers got with the program and stopped lining up people by order of registration...
Golden rule of cyclocross. It is ALWAYS faster not to crash.
This
Big day for everyone in knobby tires:

Ragot 7th
Handsome Joe 9th
Whitey 33rd but with a "Salad Dressing Handicap"
Jules 4th with (again) new 10 & 20 minute power records in spite (because of?) wife's "healthy meal" the night before that had me 'trotting' before the race
Todd took a mighty spill but rallied
I don't know what became of WDC, Dave and...?

How did Providence go?
Flash Town Hall report: 

Our Canadian Ginger took an honest fourth in the fours! Don't ask him about his power numbers unless you want to hate your futile life.

Diamond Joe Mueller honey badgered it into ninth in the 3/4 race despite a disadvantageous call-up. His key to success? "I ran half the course." 

William and Tod suffered a bout of the crashies and finished respectably not far behind Handsome Joe.

I botched my hole shot by stomping my foot off the pedal and then promptly making it worse by riding the one no-go line through a mud pit, temporarily rendering my tires utterly ineffective and clogging my brakes with mud-grass for the duration of the race. The ultimate shame was cornering so terribly in the technical portion of the the last lap that a guy riding a single speed stole 32nd place. Goddamn hipsters.

Eric "I <3 My Basement" Ragot had his top ten looking secure in the 35+ geezer field when I was hurried off the premises by Jules, my ride, who claimed he had to "take care of his children" (even though they were at a party in Bed-Stuy, which as we all know doesn't even get *started* until 2 p.m.).

The techies among us know that the all-time data throughput record wasn't set by the Twittersphere when DA got popped at the Gran Fondo, but by a tractor trailer full of hard drives speeding down the interstate one time a while back. It is possible Konrad broke the bike frame bandwidth record this morning. I don't know the whole story but I saw what I saw.

Former KCC hardman Rich Henning took his rightful top ten spot in the fours. The new Spooky seems to have been worth the (3-year) wait.

I crashed as my rear wheel slid to the right while going up a hill. Lost traction - DOWN on my right side, clipped in and lying on my back, head pointed downhill. I felt like a turtle. I hung onto the mighty strong course tape and used it like a rope to right myself enough to extricate myself from my position. 


Didn't lose a spot, but it did take away my chances of moving back up any. 7th and 6th were still in sight then, I neded up catching a fading 7th place guy on the last lap.


Good thing Stokes and I hung around. THey had me down a lap in 29th! Bad for Crossresults. But I got it fixed.

Only paid 5 deep though...


Fun course, will do it again next year for sure.

yup! ^ this!

i think that course threw all of us a for a Benny Hill-esque tumble.  my best one came about 5 minutes before the call-ups, when i somersaulted over one mud pit to land in another a turn down the hill.  my chain got stuck underneath my POS chain catcher, and I was scrambling to the mechanic's tent to get it back on when I should have been nestling myself into a comfortable mid-pack starting spot.  So far that chain catcher is 2 for 2 in screwing up at the races.  

whatever!  i like racing from the back dead last.  it was going to be a good day no matter what, because the fiancé was in attendance, and I'd just had a solid 16 mile warm up from her parent's house in Easton with her dad.  

one of the things i like about cyclocross is that it lets you release your inner dick in a consequence-free environment.  i'm not a particularly "fast" starter (as in, my sprint is feeble) but i am good at avoiding the first-100-meter crashes and i am also very good at cutting people off to steal 2,3,4 spots at a time.  my special move is to bite the inside of a turn, and navigate it slowly/awkwardly, but in the process, make other people fall off their bikes because they are suddenly going so slow.  if they fall on top of the dude with the Di2 and the Speedvagen . . . I get double points.

So . . . i did a lot of this, especially on the long hairpinned climb, and with three to go, people were yelling "low 30's" to me, as well as Jules trying to tell me that I had a wad of dirt stuck between my teeth, and Nicola (fiancé) screaming "go get that pizza, boi!"  

This course was extremely difficult because of all the mud.  It was very thick and slippery and had a habit of forcing your wheels wherever it wanted, but the suddenly letting go and leaving you flopping.  This happened to Todd in dramatic fashion when he was right in front of me.  Full on yard sale of knees and elbows.  GO CROSS!!  I honestly have no clue how to race muddy turns better.  I ended up taking the widest, most inefficient lines available just to avoid the black stuff.  lots of dorky riding on my part.

the real contest in this race was between my close friend, Anthony Cross, and me.  He and I spend a lot of time together and do a lot of bickering, needling, hissing, shoving, snapping at each other, and fussing over what the other is cooking on the stove.  He is my favorite person to argue with and one of my favorites to tease.  He is extremely competitive, and also, a king of excuses.  So anyway, he's been faster than me all summer and loves to gloat about it.  In a fit of Hubris, he even sent me a crossresults.com CROSSCLASH, knowing full well that, with his recent success on CX, he'd be starting up front.  The night before, Nicola's parents asked me whether I was going to beat Anthony, and I told them it was highly unlikely given the circumstances.  This all leads me to . . .

2 LAPS TO GO, at the foot fo St Luke's staircase, I see Anthony 1 turn in front of me.  "Holy Shit! Anthony! I'm coming for you!!!" As he passes me in the other direction, I get a doppler-effected string of excuses (nobody excuses in mid-ride like Tony Cross) about a bad fall, about going out to hard, about the mud.  "Yeah . . . we all did, Anthony!"

He's still got a small lead on me when we hit the downhill.  Knowing that he's riding tubulars and will probably handle the technical sections much better, I surge to get in front to slow him down.  It works for a little bit, and suddenly, BOTH of our fiancés are on the other side of the tape, yelling for their men (I'm grinning like a goon, here), and by the bottom of the hill, I've powered through some slop and gotten ahead of him.  

I pick up a few more spots in the last lap, but I think that was the slowest/easiest of all of them.  My main goal, a thorough (and utterly surprising) drubbing of my besty, has been accomplished.

Excellent post-ride scene.  Whitey was waiting with Handsome Joe (who killed it!) to give me a coke/strawberry milk handoff (god send) and all the ladies were there.  I got to hang with Rich a bunch (miss him), give Jules some of that Hi5 for his 4th place, and get my picture taken by Bob Martus and his fancy set up.  Excited to see that.  

Watched Eric crush in the Masters' field and then I rode back to Easton with dad-in-law, who ground me up something horrible.  Mucho snacks afterwards . . . I got dat pizza!
oh

and i don't know where i finished

any clue?
23rd!

stoked about that, considering dead last start
What you saw, Jeff, was an attempt to liquidate the excess gear (okay, junk) of myself, him, two other friends, and two bike shops at T-Town. How we fit 5 large plastic bins, a table, some camping chairs, event tent, 5 wheelsets, 4 frames, 3 people, and an unknown number of backpacks into an Outback is still beyond me. It really was a pleasant surprise to be greeted by friendly faces while trying to creep on some nice bikes on a roof rack.

Good news is now that I have some money I can actually try and move into NY and ride with you all way more often and start registering for cross races. Awwww yeah!
What fun!

Finally over my cold I actually got a day or two of real training in this week so I felt good going into the weekend, and excited because with the Giant Hill this race is one of my better shots at a podium.

Town Hall was the first CX race I ever did (last year) so this was a bit of a "grudge match" with the course itself.

The early morning (middle of the night?) drive to the race was full of bizzarre banter from Handsome Joe & Whitey.  Whitey regaled us with what is most certainly the most elaborate pre-race excuse I've ever heard; involving some kind of vinagrete-based acid, a rabbit-snare constructed from arugula and a one-eyed man screaming in agony on the floor of his kitchen...

Tire pressure sorted and numbers pinned we set off on the pre-race course recon/warmup laps.

MUD!  And it was only going to get worse.  The course was almost completely grassy but just beneath was a thick, goopy layer of muck that was dissolving with each wheel that passed.  Almost everyone commented after a couple of warmup laps how glad they were our field was going first.

I tried to ride the steepest runup at the top of the Big Hill; failed once, succeeded once and opted for the high-speed run the third time... either way I wasn't sure which would be faster.

Due to some "accounting" error by the people running the Mac series I only got a third row callup but I lined up behind guys I hoped wouldn't blow the start and who I figured I could pass in the first few hundred meters.

The rest was a study in determination; I passed when I could, hammered on the flats and took all the corners as hot (and wide) as I dared.  I frequently found myself riding "into" the tape and I'd just stay calm, and sloooowly finish the arc of my turn - I treat(ed) this as a good sign that I was keeping as much momentum as possible.

The super-technical-tight-low-speed-muddy turns were horrible; I felt like I was going 4 mph and it was all I could do to stay upright, but while I did't pass many people in them I also didn't get passed.  I felt like the powdery gravel spots were great because my wheels (fancy Dugasts) just floated while I hammered away.

I fought my way as high as 2nd (I think) and was passed in the last lap by a guy whose wheel I couldn't hold.

I finished just out of the money in 4th, but I am happy to take it.  It's the closest I've been to the podium and it feels like I'm making progress.

I also set (again) personal bests for 10 and 20 minute normalized power so that certainly helps dull the sting of finishing in the "dick spot."

As good as the race was, I felt my heckles were better.  Clearly practice has paid off as the folks I was heckling with were bent over with laugher as I "worked" the final turn into the finishing straight.  Some of the better ones:

"Push! Push! Push!" someone yelled.
Jules, "Come on! I can see the head!"

"Ooooh!  Nice.... cross beard!"

"Hey, you got a little green stuff between your teeth... right here..."

"I love the pink kit, very slimming..."

"Oh man, you threw up a little... all over your kit" to the guy in the color-explosion kit

I did get a view of Todd's yardsale crash - it sounded pretty "thunky" if that can be said but he rallied to fight on which was awesome.

Between the "no sleep till Brooklyn" drive home to get the kids and other logistics it took me till almost 4pm to get my celebratory cheeseburger but it tasted just as good for the waiting :)