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Cyclocross!

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@eloy,

It's worth adding that Donnelly uses Tufo's tubeless tubular casing.  I think this is fairly important, as it means that pinch-flatting is harder, harder even than tubeless (yes, you can pinch flat tubeless by ripping the casing from the impact, or burp off the casing).

I'd bet that the casing is less supple than the standard clincher for this reason.  It's also a bit heavier (advertised weight only) for this reason, though if you're using a butyl inner tube, the butyl adds more weight than the difference in casings.  Latex will likely be heavier, but maybe it will even out.

In terms of performance, the tubular is probably an improvement over the Tubeless Ready version as the TR probably sports the same casing, just a bit less, with two 25-50g beads added.  So the tubular tire is lighter, paired to a lighter rim, and is probably harder (when glued on right) to roll.

FWIW, I've been using Tufo tubulars and now Clements (predecessor to Donnelly) for over 25 years.  Excellent durability, flatting is rare, though I do add a little tubeless goo to the tires.  There are more supple tires out there--Dugasts and FMO's are amazing, but the cost (not to mention the risk of flatting) is more amazing than I think my cyclocross performance is worth.  

Thanks, JP, Agree. Been on Donelly/Clement for the past 2 or 3 seasons.

The price that we get from RedBeard for Vittoria tires is crazy town low. So, gonna give the terreno wets a shot this season.

Amending my post from a few seasons ago, here's the 2019/2020 version, mostly for my own record:

Cyclocross threads in order of priority, specially when using tubulars (that require the tire to be glued for a season or two):

1. If only one wheelset, you want a mud or intermediate mud thread. These will work on any race course, albeit a bit slow, and will shine on wet and muddy days, when the combination of tubular and thread will make the most difference. (PDX, Baby Limus, Terreno Wet)

2. If two wheelsets, your second set could be a file thread, fastest on early season warmth, and any sandy or dry days (LAS, Chicane, Terreno Dry)

3. If three wheelsets, your third set could be an intermediate chevron thread (MXP, Griffo, Terreno Mix)

4. If four wheelsets, well, you are obviously rich, so just ask your mechanic, otherwise you want a real hardcore mud thread (BOS, Limus, Rhino)

2 and 3 are interchangeable. YMWV.
I think i'm going to try and dip out ahead of then, @eloy! sorry I should be more clear on the spreadsheet about that. 

My Thru-Axle adaptors arrived yesterday. I'm in business I can now carry 4 thru-axle bikes on my roof (as long as they are 15 and 12mm.)
This looks pretty good

https://www.worx.com/portable-power-cleaners.html?utm_source=radio&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=hydroshot%20bike%20podcast
I have a low powered Moby power washer with onboard tank. Depending on the mess level, last year I'd use the tank in one cleaning. I would bring the bike back to the car wash it, and then race my second race and at the end of that use the power washer provided by the venue, go home tear apart the whole bike clean grease and re-assemble. Come to think of it that was almost every weekend... Lol.
Any interest in Newtown CX in CT on Sunday, Sept 22nd? As soon as I have my bike back (tomorrow) I'm going to reg and hopefully glue my tyres up this weekend. I might be giving a fellow track guy a ride from the city, working out where I'll meet him. He's trying CX out for the first time. I have room for two more bikes and two more bodies, unless there are pit bikes involved. I do plan on doing back to back races (nice way to shock the system into CX.) If Chris comes, his race is an 8:30am race. My races would be at 11:00am and 12:30pm for a finishing time of no later then 1:15pm, pending any delays in the schedule.

-Andrew
I raced Newtown last year.  Was solid.  I am in if you can hang for the 2:30 starts.
Newton is on my Radar, as my Aunt has a house in New Mildford just 20 minutes away. A little too early to commit for me yet.
I raced Newtown last year.  Was solid.  I am in if you can hang for the 2:30 starts.
I don't think that will be an issue for me. I might see, if I am not completely blown after my races, if I can go hang with the Judges a bit to get some CX judging experience by observing what they do. Or I might just sit and drool in the van for an hour.
Okay so I seem to enjoy dying. I signed up for Newtown CX, back to back races. Can someone come with a shovel and a wheel barrow to scoop me off the course? @AnthonyOtt you in?
Yes - I will race at 2:30 if that is cool.  Happy to meet wherever makes sense.  I am on uws
Okay next week I’ll figure out a travel plan and keep you in the loop.

The bois pre riding, looking much more sharp than my blurry pictures suggest. 
I had a fun/ decent day at Nittany! Got there early and chatted with James a bit before the start. I thought they did call ups via MAC rankings but apparently not for us 4/5s. So that meant expecting a front row call up and getting the 45th (5th row) call up 🤷‍♂️ Thems the berries. 

I got out of the blocks pretty well and settled into 20ish place after some dudes took a tumble before the first corner. Ended up battling with one guy in particular for much of the race until he went full send over the handlebars in the wooded section. He eventually finished a few spots down, which was impressive after seeing his acrobatic crash. 

Ended up 18th/60 finishers which I felt about how I was feeling. I’m pretty pleased because I think this is still significantly better than I placed in any of my races a few seasons ago. My big takeaways were: pedal more and better through corners, push a little longer at the start when stuck in the back rows, and register early. 

🚲🚲🚲

I raced in the 40+ 4/5 and had a blast! Finished 21st out of 35 or so -  I was hurting in the last lap but also started to find a rhythm. The start was not super aggressive, perhaps because there were a handful of riders that were starting their first CX season with this race, as I was. Chatted with Robert, Patrick, Eloy, and Anthony too. Wish I’d signed up for Sunday’s race. I'm eager to do another one.


Here are some pics..



Red is faster
These pics are so rad 
Red is faster
Orange is faster than red.

just sayin'
Maghalie Rochette's post race interview is everything you want cycling to be.

Click here to see cue up


Reposting the most important spreadsheets for this time of year:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FRotvmev_zdwm0jUyH3-UWCpDJ1LYfxiFn7RdxX6PN8/edit#gid=1667795558

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UQI2CdoxUi4WbT4SCRGznI16LLNVe2mkRiMvLbfVh-k/htmlview?usp=gmail
Thanks @AnthonyOtt !!

I don't know who owns the Kissena Calendar but there's a typo on the 10/12-10/13 weekend. Mansfield Hollow CX is in Mansfield, CT not Lambertville, NJ. That said, Mansfield is my hometown and, providing I have a cx bike in time, I'm planning on making the trip home for it. It's a 3 hour drive or 2 hour train + 1 hour drive from the city but if anyone makes it up you're more than welcome to crash at my parents' house afterwards and I'll bring you to the best ice cream place east of the Connecticut River on the way.
I'm managing the Kissena CX calendar. If anyone catches a change in the cross calendar let me know and I will update our calendar. (e.g. Crossasaurus and West Chester have swapped dates). Most races are up on Bikereg and have a link in the title. Mansfield Hollow and a few others are not on Bikereg yet.


Who could this be?
Some goofball who wasn’t suffering enough and enjoying being on Eamonn’s (I think) wheel
Some sweet pics posted on Cross Results from Nittany: 
https://www.crossresults.com/race/9186
I plan to bring my dSLR to Newtown on Sunday, and if after my races I'm not dead, I hope to do some photo shooting.
Sveness https://youtu.be/Qgi2AqMAz3U
Pretty pretty good day at Bubblecross today. It was a cat 5 only field which is a lil funky. I got off the like in front and got the holeshot which was fun! I didn’t feel like my technical skills were super strong so I wanted to get going while it was grassy and then figured I could settle in and work through the mountain bike portion of the course. I was led into the back woods portion with the curve-y, root-y climb and beefed it coming around one of the corners. I think about 3 guys passed me there but I pressed real (too) hard to stay up there. It worked for a bit but then a few more folks passed by and I started to get real sloppy on the technical bits. I took one more spill on a downhill u-turn and lost a spot but ended the day in 8th. 

Takeaways: work on skills/ drills and technical features like twisty climbs/ spend some time on some mtb trails/ look for more grass and less technical races, cornering on the grass was better than last week, try to remember not to crash even if you’re tired

Phil appeared to be getting back on the horse in one of the masters field and gave it a real whirl. Pat transformed pre-race meh feelings alchemy-like into a super strong top 10 (6th I think??) in his field.