Jun 28, 2013 at 04:09 PM
has it been 2 years already???
Professional Dopers
Jun 28, 2013 at 04:14 PM
Time flies. Which sub-team was he riding for when he got popped?
Jun 28, 2013 at 04:16 PM
Foundation
Jun 28, 2013 at 05:19 PM
Jul 02, 2013 at 12:12 AM
Jan Riis says he was not able to be at the start of the TdF because
'He said he did not travel to the Corsica for the Grand Depart because he was on a cycling holiday with is children.'
I guess the schedule took him by surprise.
Jul 02, 2013 at 11:59 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQkCZhQHwt8Levi Leipheimer did a Tedx talk. It's pretty sweet. He lies about when he started doping and why.
doping stuff starts around 7m in.
Around 8:30, he starts contradicting his USADA testimony. He makes it seem as if he started doping once on US Postal and that it was only in anticipation of the 2001 Vuelta.
Jul 03, 2013 at 01:35 AM
I wonder what Rick Crawford has to say about this?
Jul 03, 2013 at 01:46 AM
Yes I love the "white knight" defense around 10:05 "I want to help the sport learn from my generations mistakes". This guy is so full of shit, he doesn't even believe himself. This is a pathetic monologue. I always love when dopers claim that they are not "quitters" and that they had come too far to "quit". All of these dicks "quit" being clean athletes the second they take the needle. I haven't even finished listening to this garbage but I am assuming Levi will not offer to return one dime of his salary, bonuses or race winnings. Safe bet no?
Jul 03, 2013 at 01:52 AM
Anyone read this?
It's strange. He claims that when he was about to switch to Slipstream, lots of people laughed at him, but now the peloton is 98% clean. He joined Slipstream in 2008, so the comments were in 2007. We're to believe that he interacted with lots of dopers then, but somehow, in five years, it changed to 98% clean?
couldn't he have been asked about this?
Jul 03, 2013 at 01:56 AM
Who knew Levi was so jacked with his shirt off ???
Jul 03, 2013 at 03:47 AM
Damn, Yaks, pulling out the Prometheus reference.
Jul 03, 2013 at 03:54 AM
Yeah, JP. I never felt the need to jump on Pharmstrong or anyone else, but some of these guys are actually worse in their justification. Vande Velde reaches new lows in that article.
I love these guys who doped for around 10 years, yet say it had no lasting benefit. Oh yeah?! You got paid millions and still have a career b/c of it! Zabriskie, Vande Velde, Hincapie, etc are no better than dickstrong.
I love these guys who doped for around 10 years, yet say it had no lasting benefit. Oh yeah?! You got paid millions and still have a career b/c of it! Zabriskie, Vande Velde, Hincapie, etc are no better than dickstrong.
Jul 05, 2013 at 04:38 PM
Haha, we're all too stupid to understand science:
http://velonews.competitor.com/2013/07/news/qa-brailsford-on-why-froome-wont-release-power-data_293771
http://velonews.competitor.com/2013/07/news/qa-brailsford-on-why-froome-wont-release-power-data_293771
Jul 05, 2013 at 09:38 PM
This guy makes me trust Sky less and less.
Jul 05, 2013 at 10:08 PM
Sky are as dirty as they come, IMHOdstokes said:This guy makes me trust Sky less and less.
The rewards are 10x what they were in Pantani's day and the testing barely better - for crying out loud a single SRM file would replace tens of thousands of dollars of biological testing. You don't need a team of doctors and year long surprise inspections at far off locations to bust someone who is doing 6 watts/kg for an hour
Jul 06, 2013 at 03:48 AM
"At some point in time, people have to accept that performances are going to move forward."--brailsford
So is he saying that people are getting stronger? It doesn't take a genius to figure that a 6.8kg bike should be able to go uphill faster than a 9kg bike. And certainly it's not hard to see that the right wheels make a difference. Or that the right chain. I think people have accepted all these things.
VN: What kind of variables or conditions can influence power readings?
DB: Add temperature, wind, road conditions, normalized VAM, normalized power; we know aerodynamic drags of our riders, and even with that it’s hard, so when people start saying, we’ll just assume this and that, come on, guys, if you have to have true scientific rigor, you would know what you’re doing is not scientifically.
DB: Add temperature, wind, road conditions, normalized VAM, normalized power; we know aerodynamic drags of our riders, and even with that it’s hard, so when people start saying, we’ll just assume this and that, come on, guys, if you have to have true scientific rigor, you would know what you’re doing is not scientifically.
normalized VAM, and normalized power doesn't influence power readings. Maybe he's not too up on science himself
But his larger point about "we'll just assume this and that" is sort of fair--but when someone is putting out an estimated 6.78 w/kg (contador's alleged power for his climb to Verbier in 2009 and Riccardo Ricco's alleged ascending at the Tour in 2008), even if it's a mere 6.5 w/ig, questions are fair to ask.
Jul 06, 2013 at 04:00 PM
Got a press release from Leopard this morning: "
REACTION LEOPARD Leopard would like to clarify that Fränk Schleck nor his counsellors can be surprised over the decision taken by Leopard, as several meetings with Fränk Schleck have taken place between the date when the options to appeal the verdict expired and the present date.The decision that has been conveyed to Fränk Schleck on Wednesday corresponds perfectly to the atmosphere of these meetings."
Jul 06, 2013 at 04:05 PM
Froomdog. Biggest doper since Pantani.
Jul 06, 2013 at 04:30 PM
Today was not reassuring. 1min in a 24 min climb... 4.2% faster than everyone else in the peloton. Amazing.
Jul 06, 2013 at 04:52 PM
#ukpostal
Jul 06, 2013 at 06:25 PM
True he went 10 seconds faster than Armstrong in 2001? Haha. I love it.
Jul 06, 2013 at 07:04 PM
Science of Sport has a good summary:
"Three quick thoughts on #Froome's performance in the #TDF today:
1. It was fast, very fast. The 23:14 ascent of Ax-3-Domaines puts Froome in third on the all-time list for the climb, behind only Laiseka and Armstrong in 2001. The VAM of 1715 m/h converts to a power output of 6.3 W/kg (Ferrari method) and about 6.5 W/kg with other models (CPL, rst). Very fast.
2. Before today's performance is instantly condemned as proof of nefarious pharmacology in the sport, keep in mind what I've tried to emphasize many times over the last few years, which is the context of the climb and variability around performance. For example, this climb was done in Stage 12, 13 and 14 of the 2001, 2003 and 2005 Tours, respectively. The earlier placement in week 1 as the first climb of the Tour may affect performance. Also, variability in conditions (particularly wind and heat) make it impossible to make 'guilt by performance' proclamations. Let's wait to analyze the entire Tour, the collection of climbs, and then compare to history's known dopers. The problem when you get too close in is a kind of "performance pixelation", so step back and see the whole screen. That will happen in time.
3. Having said that, what was noteworthy today were the enormous gaps created on the final climb. That's because with the exception of Froome and perhaps Porte, the rest of the peloton performed in a manner that is typical of cycling over the last few years. Their performances were consistent with post-biological passport levels, and matched or even fell short of the prediction models. It was only Froome and Sky who exceeded them. Therefore, skepticism is normal, and failing to appreciate that will come only from extreme naivety or patriotism. History has taught us the value of some healthy cynicism, and if this level continues for three weeks, it makes for an uncomfortable Tour, of that there is no doubt.
Either it is one exceptional individual, or...well, we know the rest, we have seen this movie too often in the sport.
But, this is something only time will tell, as it always does.
Ross"
1. It was fast, very fast. The 23:14 ascent of Ax-3-Domaines puts Froome in third on the all-time list for the climb, behind only Laiseka and Armstrong in 2001. The VAM of 1715 m/h converts to a power output of 6.3 W/kg (Ferrari method) and about 6.5 W/kg with other models (CPL, rst). Very fast.
2. Before today's performance is instantly condemned as proof of nefarious pharmacology in the sport, keep in mind what I've tried to emphasize many times over the last few years, which is the context of the climb and variability around performance. For example, this climb was done in Stage 12, 13 and 14 of the 2001, 2003 and 2005 Tours, respectively. The earlier placement in week 1 as the first climb of the Tour may affect performance. Also, variability in conditions (particularly wind and heat) make it impossible to make 'guilt by performance' proclamations. Let's wait to analyze the entire Tour, the collection of climbs, and then compare to history's known dopers. The problem when you get too close in is a kind of "performance pixelation", so step back and see the whole screen. That will happen in time.
3. Having said that, what was noteworthy today were the enormous gaps created on the final climb. That's because with the exception of Froome and perhaps Porte, the rest of the peloton performed in a manner that is typical of cycling over the last few years. Their performances were consistent with post-biological passport levels, and matched or even fell short of the prediction models. It was only Froome and Sky who exceeded them. Therefore, skepticism is normal, and failing to appreciate that will come only from extreme naivety or patriotism. History has taught us the value of some healthy cynicism, and if this level continues for three weeks, it makes for an uncomfortable Tour, of that there is no doubt.
Either it is one exceptional individual, or...well, we know the rest, we have seen this movie too often in the sport.
But, this is something only time will tell, as it always does.
Ross"
Jul 06, 2013 at 07:16 PM
In case any of you missed the last 5K of the Tour today....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rei-cNIzbmM
Jul 06, 2013 at 07:27 PM
Hey Team Sky....I've seen this act before.....throw champagnyah in my face once...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0hPFDmoVyo
Jul 06, 2013 at 08:17 PM
Jul 06, 2013 at 08:38 PM
Wrong camper numb-nuts...
http://m.cyclingnews.com/news/french-police-search-radioshack-camper-at-tour-de-france
http://m.cyclingnews.com/news/french-police-search-radioshack-camper-at-tour-de-france
Jul 07, 2013 at 04:55 AM
Lots of the watt estimates are based on reported weight. If someone lost two lbs of water before the climb that would help. But it's not like everyone else wouldn't lose such weight.
Amazing froome says his FTP is 440-460.
Amazing froome says his FTP is 440-460.
Jul 07, 2013 at 01:46 PM
The Tour used to do a ceremonial check-up before the start. I wonder if the weights come from there. It possible that the numbers come from the PR guides that each team produces, but everyone involved in pro cycling knows those numbers are a joke.Jeff Owens said:Lots of the watt estimates are based on reported weight. If someone lost two lbs of water before the climb that would help. But it's not like everyone else wouldn't lose such weight. Amazing froome says his FTP is 440-460.
Jul 07, 2013 at 01:49 PM
I find myself musing on the fate of the Garmin dopers. Did VDV report this was his last go-round until the tour? He hasn't done anything this year. Likewise Danielson. And Zabriskie. VDV is tight with Vaughters and could end up in team management, but are the others fading their way to retirement as well? In the run-up to the Tour, neither Danielson nor VDV got any mention from the team--it was all Martin, Talansky, and Hesjedal.
Jul 07, 2013 at 09:29 PM
I'm surprised that some of the regular posters here haven't got their knives out for Movistar and Belkin today. Surely they must all be doping to have put Sky to the sword today.
Also Cadel bounced back amazingly well from a shocking day yesterday, maybe he invested in the recuperative powers of beloved of BMC riders: a few beers and bourbon shots.
Also Cadel bounced back amazingly well from a shocking day yesterday, maybe he invested in the recuperative powers of beloved of BMC riders: a few beers and bourbon shots.