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I like to race my power meter. If I see record #'s I get excited. At least it proves I'm improving.
Or that your calibration is off!
twoyacks said:
I like to race my power meter. If I see record #'s I get excited. At least it proves I'm improving.

Where is the "sadly agree" button?
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Marin Cilic, in the US Open Final, was busted for doping last year.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/17/sports/tennis/marin-cilic-suspended-for-nine-months-for-doping.html?_r=0
Check and mate.

http://www.physoc.org/press-release/2013/steroids-muscle

If the effects of doping last for a lifetime, how do you

a) test fairly
b) punish fairly

However the study was conducted on mice not on humans therefore I'm skeptical. The writer of this paper rightfully stated short term steroids use may impact long term performance by using the verb may. I glanced at the muscle slides at the end under the microscope, I did not see any scaling of any sort. Was the left slide blown up to look more dramatic?? Hopefully not.

http://www.uci.ch/pressreleases/uci-statement-valentin-iglinskiy/


Slam!!!

http://www.theouterline.com/anti-doping-is-the-cure-worse-than-the-disease/

I find this argument pretty lame.  

They refer to the Armstrong prosecution as a "witch hunt."  Last I checked, witches aren't real, but dopers are.  Maybe if ADA's bound suspected dopers hands and feet and tossed them in a lake to see if they float the authors might be making an apt comparison.

They bring up "unfairness."  By the logic they employ, speeding tickets are also unfair because everyone speeds,but only some lose their licenses while others never get caught.
The entire article is bizarre; I'm not sure what the motivation is, or why Velonews would carry it. What's next, the benefits of tinfoil hats and leeching?
Tough to argue with (although not sure why he's calling Lance by his former name...)

http://www.velominati.com/the-hardmen/end-of-an-error/
Nice

http://velonews.competitor.com/2014/09/news/uci-management-committee-announces-new-anti-doping-tribunal_347202
Disheartening...

http://fittish.deadspin.com/an-insider-talks-about-nike-drugs-and-innovations-1582835676
I find it repugnant that the'd even spend money to try and answer such an inane question.

http://velonews.competitor.com/2014/10/news/cycling-canada-says-country-organized-system-doping_351271

So what? Are they going to test differently as a result?

Totally shameful.
Just because...
This is the story in question:

http://m.cyclingnews.com/news/news-shorts-nibali-reunites-with-former-doctor
mperlberg said:
So the guy holding a trophy won by a (former) doper is complaining that a guy he wouldn't hire is trying to save face?
So much duplicity in this shameful sport.
It's like some kind of extended Miami Vice story arc; I can't even keep track anymore. Who has the alligator?
mugwump said:
mperlberg said:
So the guy holding a trophy won by a (former) doper is complaining that a guy he wouldn't hire is trying to save face?
I should have written the former doper holding a Giro victor's trophy...
I'm starting to think The Outer Line should subtitle all their pieces 'the internet made thorough research too hard.'

In their latest post, a doctor brings up uncertainty.  And he uses Pantani's 52% hematocrit reading from the 1999 Giro as an example.  

http://www.theouterline.com/the-dog-ate-my-homework/

THe hproblem with this example is many.  The choice of the Pantani's test from the 1999 as an example that undermines your point, and strengthens that of the certainty of the tests.  

Pantani knew of the test the night before (it should have been secret), was late to the test beyond what should have been allowed, he had two samples tested, the higher one was disregarded as per protocol (it was 53%).  The samples were tested five times initially, then Pantani's team was informed, brought in, and they were tested another three times.  And then they were tested again at a hospital two more times.  Same result after ten tests.  

If anything, there was more certainty of the test results than should have been expected.  

And that's before we bother mentioning that his natural hematocrit appears to be the low 40s, or that he was tested at having it over 60 when he was admitted to a hospital,or that some of his doping schedules have been made public.  
mugwump said:

was tested at having it over 60 when he was admitted to a hospital
This is the End.Of.Discussion. as far as I'm concerned.

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Here's the difference between most pro racers and pro ball players

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/i-team/alex-rodriguez-paid-cousin-yuri-sucar-1-million-quiet-ped-article-1.1997828
How many pennies have to drop?

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/astana-continental-rider-okishev-tests-positive-for-steroids
Poor Impey!
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/30/opinion/sunday/when-doping-isnt-cheating.html
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He was purchasing empty capsules and mixing his own baking soda?  

I don't know who is crazier, Impey or the author.

from SportSci.org--

Sodium bicarbonate and sodium citrate seem to be effective in improving short-term, high intensity performance. There are sufficient data to suggest that buffering agents can improve performances in such events as the 400-m sprint, 1-km cycling time trial, and Olympic rowing.  There are not enough data to make recommendations with regard to longer events.

http://www.sportsci.org/traintech/buffer/lrm.htm

@mugwump
http://nutriscience.com.au/exploring-supplement-use-by-orica-greenedge-in-tour-de-france/#sthash.rwcvbaUG.dpbs. Their approach comes from the AIS nutritional program which is evidence based, so you can assume that there's a benefit if they're prescribing it to Impey (although I don't see it listed in their TDF regime below). 

On another note, I tried the most awful bison testicle flavored preload Hammer "Race Day Boost" for four days prior to Battenkill, which is just sodium phosphate. What's the concept of using phosphate over/with bicarb/beta-alanine do you know? 

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Phosphate is a common pH buffer used for biological research. PBS is phosphate buffered saline, which is what they use for "drips" in the hospital. When put in your blood system, it will keep the pH near neutral (6.8 is the pKa). Bicarbonate does a similar thing (pKa = 6.4), but also forms an equilibrium with gaseous CO2 (H2O + CO2 <=> HCO3- + H+). Bicarbonate seems like a strange choice to me because it potentially messes with your blood gas equilibrium and might cause some fizzing.
@Wrongway,

Perhaps I didn't read the article well, but I saw no mention of sodium bicarbonate there.  And, obviously, it's not in the pictures provided.  

Don't you think that if Orica-Greenedge recommended it to their riders, they would have a product to provide him, or at least do the mixing themselves?  Still seems crimey to me.