Jul 13, 2014 at 03:34 PM
ah Menchov on a TT bike was some of the best comedy EVER.You mean he actually got ON it? I thought he just chased it around like a penguin on an ice floe...
Professional Dopers
Jul 13, 2014 at 04:17 PM
Remember his performance at that years tour was shit...his giro win raised suspicions and he clearly decided to go off the program for the tour....I remember thinking that his not doping for the tour was prudent but made his giro look that much more suspicious.
Jul 13, 2014 at 11:39 PM
Oh I don't know about that; a lackluster Tour after a brutally hard Giro isn't exactly a red flag for doping. FWIW I'm sure he doped his ass off for the Tour too, but there *are* limits...twoyacks said:Remember his performance at that years tour was shit...his giro win raised suspicions and he clearly decided to go off the program for the tour....I remember thinking that his not doping for the tour was prudent but made his giro look that much more suspicious.
Jul 15, 2014 at 02:17 PM
I know this gets tired fast, but Nibbles VAM:
http://www.sportsscientists.com/2014/07/tours-first-mountain-finish-quick-take/
To me he looks very comfortable for that extreme level of effort.
http://www.sportsscientists.com/2014/07/tours-first-mountain-finish-quick-take/
To me he looks very comfortable for that extreme level of effort.
Jul 15, 2014 at 04:34 PM
John I don't think the discussion gets tired. Given there are many unrepentant dopers in the Pelton and team management, why should we turn back into fanboys? I'm not suggesting we view the innocent as guilty, just that we need to carry a really healthy dose of skepticism when we watch these performances.
I think the science if sport guys do a nice even handed job of presenting and interpreting data without slandering riders.
Jul 15, 2014 at 05:15 PM
obviously someone from Astana management just paid to have someone hack that website right off the internet.
Jul 15, 2014 at 05:45 PM
Lucky for Ross Tucker, South Africa is a very, very log way away from the Siberian Spetznaz training camps...
Jul 16, 2014 at 04:24 PM
Different sport, but .... more BS
Jul 17, 2014 at 12:24 AM
Awesome. The dude in the "RideClean" jersey...
Jul 17, 2014 at 02:44 AM
... and his name is Load-er. Doesn't get any better than this folks.
Jul 17, 2014 at 04:52 AM
Where is the "isn't it ironic?" button?
Jul 17, 2014 at 11:34 AM
Jul 17, 2014 at 12:55 PM
Here's a gem of a local puff piece on that Load(er) of Crap.
http://m.montereycountyweekly.com/news/831_tales/young-monterey-peninsula-pro-cyclist-logan-loader-takes-to-international/article_e0670cde-4394-5ee5-b970-d442d6802325.html?mode=jqm
It's being discussed on the twitter.
Jul 17, 2014 at 12:56 PM
You'd think if you're buying a supplement called "Max Boost 2000 Rage XTEPO" you might want to check the ingredients.
Rain on your wedding day is a coincidence, and that doesn't make the song ironic.
Rain on your wedding day is a coincidence, and that doesn't make the song ironic.
Jul 17, 2014 at 01:34 PM
wish he had gotten one of those "clean" tattoos that some guys inked. then someone would come to his home and scrub it off.
eight months seems light.
Jul 17, 2014 at 01:41 PM
The Ross Tucker (Science of Sport) article nails it. Strict Liability B*tches. I don't understand why CAS is so inconsistent on this.
Strict liability means that you, the athlete, are responsible for what is present in your body when they test your blood or urine. By the literal definition, then, it doesn’t matter how it got there, whether you didn’t read the label, or even whether there was no label, if it’s in the body, you’re liable.
Also, @Malcolmson he says almost exactly the same thing...
And finally, the supplement they took was called Epiphany. Now, imagine you’re an elite athlete. One of the fastest men in history. You have to expect that you’ll be tested at some stage (even if it’s not in Jamaica, where it was revealed very few tests were done at one time!).
Then you go and take supplements, presumably without verifying their ingredients. One of them is called Epiphany, and I don’t think I’m going out on a limb here to suggest that it probably comes in shiny container promising something like “superhero speed”, and “extra-terrestrial energy levels”, because it’s clearly positioned as a supplement in the stimulant/energy category.
Jul 17, 2014 at 01:46 PM
I can't get rid of these douche chills.Marc Bertucco said:
Here's a gem of a local puff piece on that Load(er) of Crap.
http://m.montereycountyweekly.com/news/831_tales/young-monterey-peninsula-pro-cyclist-logan-loader-takes-to-international/article_e0670cde-4394-5ee5-b970-d442d6802325.html?mode=jqm
It's being discussed on the twitter.
Jul 17, 2014 at 01:52 PM
"douche chills"
Awesome. So awesome.
I'm going to work on combining that phrase with one that Lisa Roazen posted earlier this week on FB, "thunder clean."
Jul 17, 2014 at 02:00 PM
The fact that there is no irony in a song about irony and titled Ironic is quite ironic!JohnMalcolmson said:Rain on your wedding day is a coincidence, and that doesn't make the song ironic.
Jul 17, 2014 at 03:23 PM
^ Maybe just dumb?
Jul 17, 2014 at 03:45 PM
Jul 18, 2014 at 12:53 AM
Jul 18, 2014 at 01:37 AM
"There is no agreement and that was never discussed. We never asked for one," Peters said. "We do think the ban was unfairly harsh and should be reduced.... He's talking in the spirit of not trying to benefit by getting somebody else in trouble, but in the spirit of let's tell the truth."Jules said:
Are they sure they talked to the same Lance Armstrong?
Jul 18, 2014 at 01:58 AM
Jul 23, 2014 at 12:08 AM
Jul 24, 2014 at 10:19 PM
http://sportsscientists.com/2014/07/the-2014-tour-performance-implications-a-reflection-on-the-origins/
"Nibali’s ride of Hautacam today ranks #27 of all-time, with those ahead and behind sharing doping as their common thread. You can go down that list and cross off all the riders implicated in doping, either by testing or confession, and you’re left with a very thin list indeed. And while a rider cannot and should not ever be guilty by association, it also takes a special kind of denialism to ignore this fact."
Jul 25, 2014 at 01:20 AM
When you watch Slaying the Badger and you see LeMond and Hinault finishing Alpe d'Huez...it's how it should look = laboring, mechanical and slow with a lumpy cadence....compare to that to the EPO era & today...and the contrast is undeniable. The riders who win on these mtn stages today are able to maintain a high cadence and appear as if they could go up the mtn again if they had to. It ain't physiologically correct. I don't trust and I don't believe it.
Jul 25, 2014 at 02:08 AM
To me it looked like Nibali just wanted to stick it to Horner for the Vuelta, but then he thinks bugger it it let's do the 9km solo. Then he thinks shit I can't go too fast or I'll clock a suspect time (some of his accelerations were just stupid). I agree with the article, Vino probably has some kind of secret sauce he's ladling on Astana's pasta.
Jul 25, 2014 at 02:40 AM
He's going to win with a bigger margin than Lance ever did. 'Nuff said?
Jul 25, 2014 at 02:42 AM
Just watched the stage, that was straight up Lance era deja vu.