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Such amazing rides , Lucinda Brand is clearly ready for cross , Puck winning white so great .
but every time Kasia stood out the saddle in the drops ,OMG , she must of been hurting so bad 
And Phil Liggett called her “an also ran” in commentary 🥲
I’m going to go to the Tour for the first time this summer! Gonna hit the grand depart with first three stages. Any tips?!

Longer context: I’m going with my partner who supports my hobby but does not ride bikes and does not want to spend a day on the side of a mountain. So, we’re gonna go to Lille for the first three days. We’re gonna mix in tour stuff with tourist stuff and then go to Belgium for the rest of the week. Day one starts and ends in downtown Lille, easy, and day two and three we’re gonna rent a car and try to see the finishes or stand on the side of a hill somewhere. I have some loose plans for it all, have a hotel and flights, but my rental car res was just cancelled.


That sounds like it'll be sick!

I've only been to the final stage in Paris, so I can't speak to trying to see the riders along a longer, non-circuit course.  That said, we did have to show up pretty early to get a good spot.  I think we posted up around 10-11am and they came through like 3-4pm.  I imagine Lille will be similar.  Definitely bring an umbrella/sunscreen and something to sit on if you can (ideally small and easy to carry around).  Comfy shoes are also a godsend.
ask @BlakeFoster he's been and hangs out with former Pros
Echoing Greg's points and adding a few others:
- you'll want to arrive pretty early, wherever you go. The Gendarmes close the roads/routes pretty early in the day and there is a caravan of sponsors/support vehicles that precedes the peloton, usually by ~1hr. It's kind of up to them when the roads close, for flatter stages you'll probably have more leeway, and if it's through towns you are cool to see, it'll be easy to get in/out. No matter what you'll want to plant yourselves near where there is food/water/bathrooms and most importantly shade/cover from the elements. it can be super hot or rainy. arriving early is what helped us secure spots. 
- Comfy shoes for sure a must, Greg's point about a stool or something to sit on is a great idea. We didn't have that & it made for some discomfort. Those foldable/water bottle style camping stools would be great, or buy something cheap on amazon that you don't mind tossing/leaving behind wherever you stay. 
- I'd strongly recommend being near finishes for a couple of them since they do the jersey presentation/you can see the finish village. Otherwise, you can also park at a roadside restaurant or grocery store in the areas that are less remote. 
- Plan your driving around the routes (mostly to avoid) so you aren't snarled in traffic on the way there. We found traffic after was pretty easy to deal with (not different from NY traffic). We did have to walk a ways on the first day, but it was the time trial stage & the town was small, so public parking was pretty far. In a larger city you probably wont have the same issue.  
- Download the official tour app on your phone, it's great and has live map tracking of both the peloton/breaks and the caravan for every stage. 
- the caravan is where you can get all the yellow, polka dot, and white jersey freebies. the rest of the caravan is kinda w/e, but they do toss out candies, sausages, snacks (whoever is a sponsor).
 
lmk if any other questions

in 2005, I did a rest day in Grenoble, a stage start in Grenoble, a day waiting by the 1k to go sign on the Galibier and a stage finish in Digne.

for the stage start, there used to be a start village where the public would mingle with the riders.  I'm thinking that's largely over.  It was a sponsorpalooza.  Retired pros walking around, Free food, riders could use phones, internet, get a haircut, and see family and friends.  That opened up something like three hours before the start, and there were also commentators doing pre-stage chatter.  FWIW, I ended up having a snack with Chris Horner, who as the only english-speaker on Saunier Duval, was probably happy for the company.  I assume most riders are hanging out in the team camper.  

For the road, I took a bus from Grenoble to Bourg d'Oisans and rode over the Galibier.  THey closed the road something like the night before.  I think the Caravan Publicitaire comes through something like three hours before the race.  It's a show in and of itself--60 minutes or more of cars, floats, freebies.  THere is a timetable for the Caravan, which is probably on the LeTour.FR website.  They also give time estimates for when the race will pass through a town based on three or four different average speeds.  Getting to your mid-race viewing spot probably needs to be something like four hours ahead of time.

I'd definitely want to be on a hill, so that the peloton is moving slowly enough to kind of easily ID riders.  Seems like you're not going to the mountains, but whatever you do, be prepared for all weather.

Stage finishes seem to be locked down more.  I seem to remember a jumbotron, but at the same time, being parked near a bar can be a good thing.  When I did it, smartphones didn't exist, so hanging out by a superfan who drove a camper to the race was a huge plus.  I also took a train to the stage finish, so I didn't have to worry about parking and I ended up making friends on the train.


I appreciate it when a major (the major?) US pub actually puts efforts into cycling:

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6448427/2025/07/02/tour-de-france-2025-schedule-rosters-stages-riders/

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/02/magazine/tour-de-france-netflix-domestiques.html

I am PUMPED.
If you want an alternative to NBC's commercials, suits & augmented reality table here's the UK coverage (with Ant McCrossan)

https://www.vipboxtv.sk/cycling/7/stream-tour-de-france-stage-2-live
I'm VPN /Flo ,Phil is one thing , but the format  :'(
VPN/SBS as usual.  Aussie based but less annoying that Phil and Bob.
I kinda like catching moments when Bob gets snippy with Phil.

The chaos in just the first few stages this year, damn. 
Jonas and Visma impressing ,
UAE finally has a nice kit ( Tim Wellans),
Love the Bora kit .
(subjective) Kit Rankings:

https://www.domestiquecycling.com/en/features/2025-tour-de-france-jerseys-something-old-something-new-and-lots-of-blue/

Big win for my boys today! What a ride by Healy.
Today was amazing, Healy did so great!
The crowds this year are amazing 
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DL7x3G-tWEl/?
Also WTF!

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DLxeMbvNcXD/?igsh=a3M5MjRwdXlkcWkw
@Jules I didn't realize temu was making bikes and sponsoring the pro peloton
Fun video

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&channel=entpr&q=ef+pro+cycling&sei=A0B2aPiaG7Se5NoPkozmiAY#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:d2cc58a2,vid:ixw8kuU7TFI,st:0
Pro Cycling Stats

ASO has forced him to cover up his company's logos on the side of his camper van that's parked on the roadside every day at the Tour.


PEE , SEA , ASS
Woooof is it over after today? I mean not actually over over but the debate around whether Pog can be matched?
I watched Thursday stage on peacock , 1st one this year 
this article sums it up 

secondly the constant jumping around , I actually had to have the live tracking on CN going to get what’s going on in the race 


https://mobile.mail.yahoo.com/apps/emailSharing/viewer?m=VjM3QU1tN0NQSHh2QWFsSmVEQTZ8MTQ1YzE4N2MyOTZlMTVlNGMzOGYzODQ3&r=yi&v=7.68.1_71233&ctaVer=3
It's such a shame. Imagine how much fun it would be to be involved in producing the TdF broadcast.. 
Great stage today. Loved the addition of the Montmarte climb. This stage, the day MvdP nearly kept the peloton at bay, and the ventoux battle with Healy were the 3 where my wife and I yelled at the tv with excitement. Fun racing to watch 
The crazy thing is ,that without the rain the atmosphere would of been even more bonkers
I loved it but hope not every year  
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/gallery/2025/jul/28/tour-de-france-2025-cycling-best-pictures-gallery

This will be my brief attempt at summarizing my week at the Tour this year.  It is tough to put into words the experience of not only getting to spectate the race, but get an inside look into what a team of riders and staff go through during a grand tour.  I’ll attach a dropbox with some photos as well.

Day 1

I got into France on the 21st during the 2nd rest day and we geared up for a Ventoux ride ahead of the riders on the 22nd after being off the bike for about 9 days, a great way to ease back into things!  Ventoux lives up to the lore and history, a truly beautiful climb that lives up to the “martian landscape” moniker on the upper slopes.  It’s definitely no joke averaging 7.7%, but it is a very consistent slope which made it easier to find a rhythm and just chug along.  Rode with my Dad and Jonathan Vaughters who was the one time record holder, though he won’t claim that due to the asterisks of that era.  Being my first day out, I was eager to ride and set a hard tempo on the steeper lower slopes.  Though we were 6 hours ahead of the riders, the road was filled with fans who had been camping out for days in advance, often with pretty nice looking road side setups, cooking and drinking wine at 8:30 in the morning, god bless the French.  The cheering is a major boost, and it is funny seeing what names you get called based on the generation of fans along the way. I counted about 40 Ben Healy’s, a few Nielson, Carapaz and then a lone Rigo.  At about 600m from the summit the gendarmerie had closed the road to cyclists despite us being about 6 hours ahead of the riders.  I was able to sneak by after JV did some sweet talking- but we had to walk our bikes up and I think I missed out and even getting a time on the official strava segment (would have been about 1:42:00 without the hold ups). 

We descended down the Malaucène side and holy hell these descents are no joke.  Having grown up riding in Colorado, I consider myself a solid descender, but this just blows anything I had done out of the water in terms of its steepness and technical corners. Quick change post ride and then back to Bedoin to watch the race go by right before they started the climb.  That evening we linked up with the team and I got to get my first real look behind the curtain that powers the chaos that is the TdF.  From soigneurs, to social media teams to chef and team doctor, everyone is together at these small french hotels buzzing around to set up and organize around getting the riders recovered and prepped for the next day.  I met Thiago, a young guy who had gotten his MBA, worked in private equity and then left it all to join the EF team and live out his dream of working for a World Tour team.  Thiago gets every rider's room ready with an air purifier and sets up their eight sleep mattress cover, scoping out the best place to fill their portable basins that pump water into the cover to cool the bed.  Take them down the next day, and repeat at the next hotel.  Many of the staff were incredible riders in their own right, racing at a very high level with pro dreams, but not able to make that last jump.

Day 2

On Thursday's stage I got to ride in the team car with DS Charlie Wegelius.  It is pure insanity.  Team cars, medics, flocks of police motorbikes and broadcasters scream down 1.5 lane French roads that they treat like they are 3 wide.  Charlie is whipping down windy roads at 70 km/h, one hand on the wheel, one on the radio while monitoring a live race feed and looking at the coming road segments on an ipad that has comprehensive notes of feed locations, climbs, technical turns etc.  Meanwhile, through the mass of cars, riders are dropping back and making their way back up to the peloton, sitting about 4 inches behind the cars before peeling off and moving their way back up.  It’s like its own race amongst the team cars back there, everyone jockeying for position, making questionable passes and hitting random brake checks.  Somehow it all works out though, they have their own “rules of the road” that were incomprehensible to me. Sitting there was its own workout, and my hands and legs were cramped up by the end from pressing so hard into the floor, and hanging onto anything I could to keep myself stabilized as we whipped around the country roads.  This wasn’t even a steep mountain descent day, you could not pay me to go back into that car on a proper mountain stage.  I could go on about this experience forever, will tell you all about it more next time we ride.

Day 3

Queen stage, and an early morning start to ride the Madeleine and then over to Col de la Loze.  Madeleine was maybe my favorite climb of the trip, absolutely gorgeous views for the majority of the ride with a breathtaking summit.  This was also probably the scariest and longest descent (25 km).  Thankfully we avoided the rain, but there was haze and fog that made the road wet and slick in some parts.  Pair that with hairpin turns, variable pavement quality and this one made for a nail biter that left my wrists and forearms sore from all the braking.  My di2 also died at the top, but not much need to pedal on the ride down.  I had to stop in a shop at the base of Col de la Loze to (hopefully) get enough juice for the next climb.  Let my dad go on ahead and then TT’d my way back up to him once I got the bike sorted.  This one is brutally long at 26km, hitting the 20km to go banner I was already cooked and in my head knew that I still had to ride the length of Madeleine and Ventoux, ouch.  The fans here were insane and it was much needed motivation. This day ended up being just over 10,000 feet of climbing for me.

 We ended up getting about 4km from the top before turning around to try and beat the caravan, otherwise I’d be stopped on the side of the road for at least an hour as they passed by.  Got back to where we were staying in Courchavel by the skin of my teeth and watched the race come by from the hotel.  These ski towns are dead in the summer and the hotel had opened for this one day to host riders and flew in their staff from all over other locations in Europe for one night.  This was also my dads 69th Birday, can’t imagine there were too many folks older than him doing that ride.  Pretty special to get to celebrate with him, and the team made it a special night with some cake at dinner.

Will post a pt. II later if anyone cares to read more :lol:




Max this is awesome! Thanks for the summary, def would look forward to a part 2. Sounds like an unforgettable experience all around. 
I'm absolutely vicariously living through you. This looks incredible from start to finish