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Jasper is still a disaster.  While Cav's switch across the road was pretty clean, Philipsen's was not.  He caused a chain reaction that took out Mads Pedersen, who was pretty close to claiming the green jersey.  I hope it doesn't affect the end result of that competition.  

Interesting. I haven’t rewatched with an eye toward anyone else.
Jules said:
Interesting. I haven’t rewatched with an eye toward anyone else.
You and most people.  I was really surprised that few said or wrote anything.  It also could be a result of Grmay taking the points jersey--another historic first.  
I’ve become so inured to bad news I was in absolute shock. I didn’t think the world had the ability to deliver good news I had hoped for.
I understand that a massive cheer went off in the “quickstep” bus also 
I understand that a massive cheer went off in the “quickstep” bus also 
If true that would be the most heartwarming thing ever. I am secretly hoping to read/see photos of people from the peloton visiting him for a congratulatory hug.
The Bryan Coquard bunny hop is insane 
This is fantastic take from Cosmo. Makes me both excited and sheepish that I remember this story so well…

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C8_K1D2uWuH/?igsh=aTFxOWkzZGtrcXht
mugwump said:
Jules said:
Interesting. I haven’t rewatched with an eye toward anyone else.
You and most people.  I was really surprised that few said or wrote anything.  It also could be a result of Grmay taking the points jersey--another historic first.  
Relegated from 2nd to 107th - Jasper is still a disaster. Wout was pissed off.
It was heartening to hear Bob Roll mentioning the church in Dijon (Saint Benigne) where my parents were married and I also was baptized.
mugwump said:
Jules said:
Interesting. I haven’t rewatched with an eye toward anyone else.
You and most people.  I was really surprised that few said or wrote anything.  It also could be a result of Grmay taking the points jersey--another historic first.  
Relegated from 2nd to 107th - Jasper is still a disaster. Wout was pissed off.
Do I still get my fantasy points 🤔
Might not help the fantasy league but sending someone home early from the tour before they hurt somebody would be a strong message.
Jules said:
Might not help the fantasy league but sending someone home early from the tour before they hurt somebody would be a strong message.
Agree Jules , it was a joke !
I know @Mark it brought a big grin to my face when I read it.

Totally unrelated:

Is it just me or is all the aero Cav talk a little strange given the helmet he won in was basically a giant parachute?
Jules said:
I know @Mark it brought a big grin to my face when I read it.

Totally unrelated:

Is it just me or is all the aero Cav talk a little strange given the helmet he won in was basically a giant parachute?
Don't know.  I found myself wondering about that helmet.  Limar, which makes it, sells an accessory spoiler that attaches to the rear and supposedly improves aerodynamics.  Haven't seen any testing of either though.  
Alex Dowsett was working with Cav in the wind tunnel to get more Cav more aero optimized and he is a big proponent of aero helmets since it’s low hanging fruit. I have to assume that helmet tested the best and was the best available option 
https://www.instagram.com/reel/C8zRF15xm4H/?igsh=cW9tcGxxNmJmM3Zi
Never, and I mean absolutely never underestimate the UCI’s ability to step on its own dick.

https://velo.outsideonline.com/road/road-racing/tour-de-france/uci-jury-fines-french-rider-for-stopping-to-kiss-wife-son-during-time-trial-at-tour-de-france/
Jules said:
So stupid. His instagram post was heartwarming https://www.instagram.com/reel/C9DKowWtm1w/?igsh=Y2liZGJhdGd5Y21u

I told Eloy this, I am his doppelgänger and my wife laughs every time they show him on tv… “there you go!”
Who else thinks , Jonas is just biding his time until the 1st big mountain stage
Everyone. I also think he is probably trying to ride into some fitness.

I do think this youngster should win a few Grand Tours before he runs his mouth any more https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/sometimes-you-need-the-balls-to-race-remco-evenepoel-criticises-vingegaard-visma-on-tour-de-frances-gravel-stage/
Remco says all the things a snotty soccer prodigy would say and it's hilarious how bad that translates into the cycling world. 
Remco says all the things a snotty soccer prodigy would say and it's hilarious how bad that translates into the cycling world. 

Agree , While i don't agree with what he says , I'm glad he actually says " something" ,more fun that
"I'm just taking it day by day "
I'd love to hear someone quote the classics...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeVca9MwDX8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhD7SfiJxxM

Same video/interviewed referenced in the cycling news link from Jules. 

I like the candor of Remco for sure. He's obviously young and immature, and the two segments are stark. He insulted his team, complained about rivals, showed mostly a huge ego. Jonas was grateful, talked tactics, gave kudos to Tadej and Remco. No secret I am a Jonas fan boy though, but the proof is there. Remco may be annoyed, but he's talking about solidifying podiums, and Tadej/Jonas are concerned with winning the race.

I also think Visma and UAE raced exceptionally well as teams. Clearly all are on the same page now, maybe a few days late for UAE, but there's cohesion. Was awesome to see so many different tactics, and the big breakaway group using rotating pace lines so much to maintain their gap on the paved segments. 
From a strategic perspective, Jonas rode super well. "why am I gonna work here?" Saving matches for the next couple of weeks, when he could potentially get big gaps. Had he worked, he would have risked Remco and Pogi dropping him later in the stage...

Smart, but boring AF.
eloy said:
From a strategic perspective, Jonas rode super well. "why am I gonna work here?" Saving matches for the next couple of weeks, when he could potentially get big gaps. Had he worked, he would have risked Remco and Pogi dropping him later in the stage...

Smart, but boring AF.
Totally boring, but he's playing the same game they are. Will be exciting to see what happens in the mountains. My (and I think everyone's) gut is that Tadej is going to obliterate everyone in the mountains. No prisoners.
I actually hadn't seen the interview , Its funny how it comes across completely differently in print ,
Remco ,says it like it is , nothing wrong with that .
Jonas also comes across with a little more warmth than usual .
Maybe its me but does it seem like Visma get a lot of punctures ( i'm thinking Wout in roubaix )
I interpreted Jonas' reluctance to pull as a way to keep pressure on Remco by keeping the gap to his rivals small. Jonas will make a gap when it's a gap for him, and not for Remco.
Agree it's always great when the riders speak their minds.