Got a question for the more experienced Wahoo Kickr-Wahoo Elemnt users among us:

How do you find the feature where you use a downloaded route to virtually ride?  

For those who haven't experienced it, there's a feature on the Elemnt Bolt where, after you've linked the Kickr to the Bolt, you have a choice of modes to toggle through.  One is where the Bolt will load a ride you have already downloaded and create it virtually--like riding Prospect or Central Parks.  The wone I did was a route I have from Manhattan to Yonkers which has a bunch of steep hills.

I found that the downhills and uphills didn't always seem to align.  Like I'd virtually ride over a steep hill, without it feeling hard, and then on the steepish, like 8-10% descent that the resistance would ramp up at the start of the descent.  

anyone have this experience?  know why?

EricMa said:

OK! Happy to organize! All who are interested in joining Zwift Racing League please read below!!

Note: Registration next season is not open yet, but please read the below in the meantime:

1. Please review https://www.wtrl.racing/zwift-racing-league/ and https://zwiftinsider.com/zrl-r14/#Routes_and_Dates for some background on how it works!

2. Season will span from Jan 14 - Feb 28, 2025 with weekly races at 7:30 PM ET.

3. We need a minimum of 6-8 riders. 

4. Do you some Zwift races on your own to get a feel for your category. It's loosely based on FTP. I believe Category C is between 2.5w/kg-3.2w/kg, B is 3.2-4.0, and A is anything about that. I'm currently sitting at the high end of C, so that's where I would prefer to race. They're using this new points system now, but I believe still roughly matches these categories.

5. Please make an account on https://www.wtrl.racing/ and https://zwiftpower.com/. This will allow for me to add you to the team and for our results to automatically sync from Zwift. You will need a Zwift membership to participate!

If anyone of this sounds fun to you, please let me know! I'm learning as I go too, since I haven't done this before, but teams online rave about the community element of ZRL. Closer to the season starting, I can create a groupchat to coordinate race attendance, team strategy, etc. Thanks!

Registered for this :-)

I also registered according to your instructions, @EricMa do I need to do anything else?

mugwump said:

Got a question for the more experienced Wahoo Kickr-Wahoo Elemnt users among us:

There are maybe two slighty separate issues: 

Honestly, this seems to fall into the 'cool in theory, rarely used in practice' category (no one uses this, expect it to suck)

Rouvy (a zwift competitor) has a similar feature for creating virtual worlds from uploaded routes, but it’s not widely adopted, likely because most riders prefer the simplicity of default routes on platforms like Zwift. No other competitor has implemented this.

Likely great for specific course prep, but the lack of popularity suggests it’s more niche than practical.

This might not be related to the feature above. Here are some tips to try:

• Ensure both the head unit and trainer have the latest firmware (or maybe even the right previous firmware)
• Switch between ANT+ and Bluetooth connections to see if one works better.
• Disconnect any other devices (phones, computers, watches) linked to the trainer or head unit.
• Check for interference from nearby devices on the 2.4 GHz band (e.g., microwaves).

An easy way to know if it is related to the head unit driving a route, is to test with a virtual platform.

Hope this helps! Good luck!

EricMa said:

OK! Happy to organize! All who are interested in joining Zwift Racing League please read below!!

Note: Registration next season is not open yet, but please read the below in the meantime:

1. Please review https://www.wtrl.racing/zwift-racing-league/ and https://zwiftinsider.com/zrl-r14/#Routes_and_Dates for some background on how it works!

2. Season will span from Jan 14 - Feb 28, 2025 with weekly races at 7:30 PM ET.

3. We need a minimum of 6-8 riders. 

4. Do you some Zwift races on your own to get a feel for your category. It's loosely based on FTP. I believe Category C is between 2.5w/kg-3.2w/kg, B is 3.2-4.0, and A is anything about that. I'm currently sitting at the high end of C, so that's where I would prefer to race. They're using this new points system now, but I believe still roughly matches these categories.

5. Please make an account on https://www.wtrl.racing/ and https://zwiftpower.com/. This will allow for me to add you to the team and for our results to automatically sync from Zwift. You will need a Zwift membership to participate!

If anyone of this sounds fun to you, please let me know! I'm learning as I go too, since I haven't done this before, but teams online rave about the community element of ZRL. Closer to the season starting, I can create a groupchat to coordinate race attendance, team strategy, etc. Thanks!

Hey Everyone! ZRL ROUND 3 TEAM REG IS NOW OPEN!! https://www.wtrl.racing/zrl-registration/

I am going to start a Division "C" team. Two questions I have:

1. I can't locate the Kissena Jersey in the drop-down team menu...anyone know how I can get this added? I currently don't have the jersey in Zwift.

2. Anyone able to volunteer to be a team captain? They need 2 reps from each team and I am happy to be the other. No other responsibilities other than receiving the comms from the league.

Also to reiterate - please let me know if you are interested!! So far we have JP, Bret, and Dave. 

The Kissena jersey is not a jersey that can be simply selected. It is handled like their pro jerseys.

We work w zwift every season to assign it to current members. Not sure exactly when, but we’ll try to do the same in 2025. 

(Or reach out to Patrick and he’ll sort it)

EricMa said:

EricMa said:

OK! Happy to organize! All who are interested in joining Zwift Racing League please read below!!

Note: Registration next season is not open yet, but please read the below in the meantime:

1. Please review https://www.wtrl.racing/zwift-racing-league/ and https://zwiftinsider.com/zrl-r14/#Routes_and_Dates for some background on how it works!

2. Season will span from Jan 14 - Feb 28, 2025 with weekly races at 7:30 PM ET.

3. We need a minimum of 6-8 riders. 

4. Do you some Zwift races on your own to get a feel for your category. It's loosely based on FTP. I believe Category C is between 2.5w/kg-3.2w/kg, B is 3.2-4.0, and A is anything about that. I'm currently sitting at the high end of C, so that's where I would prefer to race. They're using this new points system now, but I believe still roughly matches these categories.

5. Please make an account on https://www.wtrl.racing/ and https://zwiftpower.com/. This will allow for me to add you to the team and for our results to automatically sync from Zwift. You will need a Zwift membership to participate!

If anyone of this sounds fun to you, please let me know! I'm learning as I go too, since I haven't done this before, but teams online rave about the community element of ZRL. Closer to the season starting, I can create a groupchat to coordinate race attendance, team strategy, etc. Thanks!

Hey Everyone! ZRL ROUND 3 TEAM REG IS NOW OPEN!! https://www.wtrl.racing/zrl-registration/

I am going to start a Division "C" team. Two questions I have:

1. I can't locate the Kissena Jersey in the drop-down team menu...anyone know how I can get this added? I currently don't have the jersey in Zwift.

2. Anyone able to volunteer to be a team captain? They need 2 reps from each team and I am happy to be the other. No other responsibilities other than receiving the comms from the league.

Also to reiterate - please let me know if you are interested!! So far we have JP, Bret, and Dave. 

I'm in!

Some really fun races we've done in previous seasons were TTT. Those were great because it really forces everyone to work together and take pulls to get everyone over the line. 

Hi Team, as tomorrow's (Saturday Dec 21) forecast calls for snow and cold temperatures, I've set up a zwift ride. Come join:


https://www.zwift.com/events/view/4694895 

LMK if you are joining. Will be fun.

-- Small caveat, ideally tomorrow's world cup should finish before 10:30am. but if not I'll join only after it has finished.

I'll be joining at party pace.

eloy said:

Hi Team, as tomorrow's (Saturday Dec 21) forecast calls for snow and cold temperatures, I've set up a zwift ride. Come join:

Saturday, December 21st

10:30AM EST

Kissena Cycling Club
Itza party route (46.2km) 

Anyone with the link (and a zwift account) should be able to join:

https://www.zwift.com/events/view/4694895 

LMK if you are joining. Will be fun.

-- Small caveat, ideally tomorrow's world cup should finish before 10:30am. but if not I'll join only after it has finished.

Are there any sprint points on this route? (Asking for Dave)

KevinWomack said:

eloy said:

Hi Team, as tomorrow's (Saturday Dec 21) forecast calls for snow and cold temperatures, I've set up a zwift ride. Come join:

Saturday, December 21st

10:30AM EST

Kissena Cycling Club
Itza party route (46.2km) 

Anyone with the link (and a zwift account) should be able to join:

https://www.zwift.com/events/view/4694895 

LMK if you are joining. Will be fun.

-- Small caveat, ideally tomorrow's world cup should finish before 10:30am. but if not I'll join only after it has finished.

Are there any sprint points on this route? (Asking for Dave)

Don't worry about it, party pace. I'm just going to be riding ahead from time to time to scope out any virtual road hazards ahead.

EricMa said:

2. Anyone able to volunteer to be a team captain? They need 2 reps from each team and I am happy to be the other. No other responsibilities other than receiving the comms from the league.

Also to reiterate - please let me know if you are interested!! So far we have JP, Bret, and Dave. 

Also Eric, you can add me as the second team captain.

KevinWomack said:

Are there any sprint points on this route? (Asking for Dave)

apparently, 4 kom AND 4 sprints + the finish line
https://zwiftinsider.com/route/itza-party/

Bret, Kevin, Dave, JP, please DM me your Zwift ID. It is a unique identifier that is required to add you to the team: https://zwiftinsider.com/find-zwift-id/

Tried Rouvy today and it was just not very good. I liked the real world courses in concept but they basically use stitched stills to create a moving course but it's a bit like moving through google maps. The slightly different angles of each photo especially around the edges from the wide angle lens they recorded the courses on creates this weird uneven shifting as you move through the world. Also for as low rent as Zwift is in the graphics dept (my gamer friend actually laughed out loud at the 2006 level graphics when he watched me "play") you forget that you have many different angles and the world is interactive in a way that a prerecorded single camera course can never be. I did have a pretty good laugh though when their course camera caught a baby goat crossing the road in the mountains of Lombardi, cute. Without a huge user base you are riding with bots which is interesting. They start the course with you and they are your dedicated riding buddies so will sort of surge and slow down and keep pace with you based on your power. Cool concept but they surge and slow down almost haphazardly and you feel like you're in a bad group ride and I wanted to get away from their squirrely wheels. There is a dedicated drafting meter which is cool but it never felt like I was actually drafting as I had to output the same w/kg to stay on a bots wheel. Some of the UX elements need a bit of polishing but ultimately could be forgiven if the "videos" of the courses weren't so janky.

Next up to test is MyWhoosh has a similar real world course selection as Rouvy and somehow a worse product name but I guess it has a leg up because it's free?

David Yang said:

Next up to test is MyWhoosh has a similar real world course selection as Rouvy and somehow a worse product name but I guess it has a leg up because it's free?

I loaded MyWhoosh onto my phone.  Turns out, it doesn't work with the Wahoo Kickr Snap for some reason.  On that, you have to listen to their music it seems and you have to have your phone in landscape mode.

AS a heads up...I couldn't register Dave and Kevin onto my team because they're actually in the B tier and I'm in the C tier...tough luck. You guys are too strong! Feel free to make a B pace group racing team, but unfortunately we won't be able to race together

mugwump said:

David Yang said:

Next up to test is MyWhoosh has a similar real world course selection as Rouvy and somehow a worse product name but I guess it has a leg up because it's free?

I loaded MyWhoosh onto my phone.  Turns out, it doesn't work with the Wahoo Kickr Snap for some reason.  On that, you have to listen to their music it seems and you have to have your phone in landscape mode.

Downloaded to my MacBook but haven't had a chance to test ride yet. One random notable is it is downloaded through the official MacOs App Store instead of off their servers. 

EricMa said:

AS a heads up...I couldn't register Dave and Kevin onto my team because they're actually in the B tier and I'm in the C tier...tough luck. You guys are too strong! Feel free to make a B pace group racing team, but unfortunately we won't be able to race together

Boo, how long until you are in the B's?

Thanks to Dave Yang for guiding me through my third-ever Zwift ride.  He was most patient.

How do we get the kit?

Ask Pat (and slip him a 20).

KevinWomack said:

EricMa said:

AS a heads up...I couldn't register Dave and Kevin onto my team because they're actually in the B tier and I'm in the C tier...tough luck. You guys are too strong! Feel free to make a B pace group racing team, but unfortunately we won't be able to race together

Boo, how long until you are in the B's?

I have no idea how to get myself upgraded. FTP test? The new racing system doesn't let me race above my category. 

silly question but how are folks accessing the Basecamp Zwift training plans? For those of you doing them, do you feel they are helpful?

EricMa said:

I have no idea how to get myself upgraded. FTP test? The new racing system doesn't let me race above my category. 

Just keep racing. Zwift's new system gives you a dynamic racing score that changes based on finishing place and I think you're general power output, so as you race more and get stronger/better finishes, your score will increase (and the inverse is true- if you're barely hanging on/getting dropped and finishing low in the field, your score will decrease). I believe the cut off between Cs and Bc is 520 (in terms of average power I think it basically shakes out to like mid to high 3s to 4 w/kg)

EricMa said:

silly question but how are folks accessing the Basecamp Zwift training plans? For those of you doing them, do you feel they are helpful?

Training Peaks >> Sync to Zwift >> your daily workout plan is available when you log into Zwift >> Once you finish your workout Zwift syncs to TP >> Win Races

Anyone interested in early Zwift ride on Sat morning? I think I can create a meetup where everyone stays together regardless of your training plan.

Agh, would be a yes but need to head out around 9:45.