Edwin Ortiz said:

I think maybe it would be helpful to know if the Champ-Sys fit is similar to other brands like LG, Gore, Castelli, etc... that way some of us (myself included) can gauge what size to get based on what we already have in our closets.

Edwin, feel free to Call the support line for these questions.  This thread is for the specifics of ordering clothes.  How, What, When.

Here is a little tutorial for using the Champion System order site.
I have a powerpoint file if someone can figure out a good place to put it.

Apex skin suit worth the extra $60? I'll probably wear it for like 2 TT's a year and cx.

Just tell me no so I can save $60.

@Jeff; get the Razor Bibs instead.  You don't need a skinsuit except for walking Leroy around W-Berg :P

Razor bibs have a rapha flair I crave...

Get "long"?

Just spoke with Champion Systems and the recommended ordering up one size as they typically run small. 

Thanks Jules for making this possible despite the Champion System 1990's website.

Thank you David, and thanks to Ros and Greydon behind the scenes for painstakingly maintaining 25+ proofs for all the various bits & pieces.

Razor bibs are fine,but I find and that they ride up quickly if you wear warmers underneath. So,I don't think they are worth the up charge.

But the razor design is rapha-esque so I MUST HAVE.

Also, what's the difference in Lycra and Lycra speed shoe covers (besides $18)?

Jeff Owens said:

But the razor design is rapha-esque so I MUST HAVE. Also, what's the difference in Lycra and Lycra speed shoe covers (besides $18)?

Hmmmm... if only there was some way, some sort of device if you will where you could just use that device and talk to the people who work at Champion Systems.  If only you had say a code, or a number you could plug into that device to find the people at Champion Systems and ask them... and you could hear them talk and talk back... some kind of electric phonic tele... telephonic device.  Man that would be sweet.

 

Jules said:

Jeff Owens said:

But the razor design is rapha-esque so I MUST HAVE. Also, what's the difference in Lycra and Lycra speed shoe covers (besides $18)?

Hmmmm... if only there was some way, some sort of device if you will where you could just use that device and talk to the people who work at Champion Systems.  If only you had say a code, or a number you could plug into that device to find the people at Champion Systems and ask them... and you could hear them talk and talk back... some kind of electric phonic tele... telephonic device.  Man that would be sweet.

US OFFICE 

Office Hours: Monday-Friday 9AM to 6PM ET 

Email: sales@champ-sys.com

Telephone: (718) 383-8855

Fax: (646) 224-9725

Champion System

218 Richardson Street

Brooklyn, NY 11222

The point is, a lot of Champ Sys stuff SUCKS ASS. I'm looking for experience from club members and their honest input. Not marketing plugs from Champ Sys employees. Sorry Jules!

@Jeff that's no way to treat a sponsor who has been supporting the club and local racing for a decade.  CS clothing wasn't always great but they've come a LONG way and are on par quality wise with the competition and significantly cheaper.  It isn't Rapha or Verge but it doesn't "Suck Ass"

What can I tell you....  I've spent a ton of their stuff and some isn't very good (like all companies). Sorry if that opinion isn't popular.

But thanks for the description.  That's all I was looking for originally (well, actual experience and reviews would be better).  Not links to their pub.

Rock on!  You guys are doing a great job.

Fleece Jacket added, MTB / Crit Skin Suit soon to follow

MTB/Criterium Skinsuit has been added.

Excellent!

I don't have a power-meter so cannot be sure, but I am almost certain the sticker added 25 watts to today's output...

@Mark- St. George's Flag alone is good for 25 watts so you've got a real advantage there.

Awesome!

Thanks for all the time you've put into orchestrating a massive order of clothing and maintaining the art across many different items.

The reason I like separate knee warmers and shorts is two fold. 1) fit and 2) versatility

I'm with Marc on the fleece shorts.  Sometimes I wear them with leg warmers, sometimes with knee warmers, sometimes bare--certain rainy conditions and under heavy winter tights.

Maybe it's because I have big thighs, but I wear knee/leg wamers, I get that annoying muffin top pinch point that always hits right on the tip of my saddle. Ugh, sprinter problems.

I agree with the versatility but I worry I might have some fit issues.  I'm no Greipel, but the bib shorts I tried on that seem to be the correct size elsewhere on my body are tight on my thighs.  They were like new, and the ones I buy might loosen up over time.  Nonetheless they were very tight and if I put warmers under them I am concerned about the pressure point Mattie describes.  I have eschewed warmers in the past for this reason, opting instead for tights.  I'd rather not pay more for increased chance of discomfort if it's not a huge inconvenience to diligent Jules, David, Ros and Greydon who have been doing all this art maintenance.

We'll have those added today. Anti-Anti made those proofs for the winter order so it shouldn't take long.