Got my first shot this morning.

My wife and I went together.  And as three weeks from today is the minimum, we were immediately scheduled for the second shot on 4/23.  We then realized two things.  One, it's my wife's birthday.  Two, we don't want to be sick from the second shot at the same time.  I thought maybe she'd want to not have the shot on her birthday or the next two days after.  

But she decided she wanted it then.  So I'm getting my second shot on 4/27.  I'll make it a rest week.

Andrew Johnson alerted me that Bobby Peras is in the hospital with Covid. I reached out to Bobby. Apparently he and his wife Fior both have it although her symptoms are less significant. Bobby’s oxygen levels are low but he says that otherwise he is okay (other than that he has difficulty sleeping). His kids are okay. If you want to text him, his number is: +1 (347) 628-8194. (He said it was okay)

Obviously hoping he has a speedy recovery. It’s a reminder that this pandemic is not over yet 

Round 2 in the bag!

Any word on Bobby?

Jules said:

Any word on Bobby?

Texted with him an hour ago or so. He's still in hospital with low O2 levels but seems to be stable. He said he's gonna be in there for a while as it seems that it's going to take time for his O2 levels to go up.

2nd shot in the arm today. So far can only get 4G, but I'm hoping it upgrades to 5 in the next couple of weeks.

Current upload/download speed?

I dunno about COVID but this guy should probably get that giant stick through his head checked out...

https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/13/health/physical-activity-reduces-severe-covid-wellness/index.html

Love some good hard hitting journalism. Nobody knew being healthy was a good way to avoid being sick. 

Just traded texts with Bobby Peras.

Still in hospital, but reports things are going in the right direction.

I’n driving my mom home for the next few days; Michigan is fucking CRAZYTOWN. People wandering through grocery stores and small gas stations completely maskless; workers have all manner of semi-masking going: nose commando, full monty-under-the-chin, etc.

This country is SO boned.

Just spoke with Bobby Peras. He's finally home as of yesterday, although with O2, but he's finally been able to shower after 3 weeks in hospital...

I get my second shot on Saturday morning , anybody no if ill be able to ride afterwards , or should I rest up ?

Mark Taylor said:

I get my second shot on Saturday morning , anybody no if ill be able to ride afterwards , or should I rest up ?

I felt decent after mine - at least not sick feeling. But I was tired. Don't know if a hard effort right after would have any effect on the immune system and your ability to process the vaccine.

i felt completely normal and did a 2.5 hour ride. Others have been flattened with fever, etc.
#ymmv

@Mark Taylor I got the 2nd Moderna shot last Tuesday and was down for the following day with a good amount of fatigue and a very low-grade fever but felt basically 100% the day after that, didn't ride all 3 days just to be safe and to make sure my immune system got top priority, though.

I had a similar experience as Nathaniel. I was sick enough to call out of work but felt totally fine by the evening on day 2. 

2nd Moderna shot last Monday afternoon.

Generally planned to take the next day easy or off, felt ok to work, but started to feel a bit crappy around the 24 hour mark.

Went to bed, slept ok ish, woke up today feeling ok. Took two days off exercise just in case.

Back on the bike tomorrow.

Today is the 2 week anniversary of my second shot. So if anyone wants to add twelve hundred extra miles to their weekend ride, I'm down to roll  

There was an interesting article in the Times that addressed this issue about the mixed messages and ambiguity surrounding the need to wear a mask for outdoor activities. While the article mentioned cycling, it does not address slipstreams or group riding directly, however, it does say that a number of experts believe that risk of infection in outdoor activities are very rare. Note that they do say that if standing outdoors with someone for an extended period of time that one should wear a mask. 

My policy at this point is that I have no problem riding with vaccinated people outdoors. Especially where the group is familiar it's easy to keep track of who is vaccinated - I mean what more relevant news is there for people these days?

I'm signed up for a gravel "race" in a couple of weeks and thought you guys would appreciate the email from the promoters today (bold emphasis mine):

WHAT: A Gravel ride, unsupported, in the wilderness of the Chequamegon National Forest. You have chosen either the 60 or 100 mile event, and you will be given cue sheets for the appropriate race on Thursday, 5/6/21 after the final course check is complete.  You should ride your event with all items you need to complete the course including food, water, tools and gear.  Not only is this race unsupported, it also has absolutely no amenities on course.  There is literally no businesses or facilities on the course at all for any kind of help. 

One would think that an unsupported gravel race in the wilderness is the most COVID-friendly thing ever, but we also have to consider the area that we are going into.  Several people in the area still expressed concern about the amount of people we are bringing into the area, so we must respect them, respect the area, and our use of it.  Because of this, there will be a few changes from the typical Hungry Bear operations, outlined below in “HOW”

WHEN: Saturday May 8th, starting any time from 8am until Noon.  We are having a non-mass start, rolling start to avoid a mass gathering.  We do not want to force people into a situation of close proximity that they are not comfortable with, and we also do not want to inundate the small town of Cable all at one time.  Tim&Odia will be under the Terrene tent in the public Cable Parking Lot from 7am until Noon to get your number plate, cue sheet (if not printed yourself) and any ordered swag!

WHERE: More details will be sent out with the cue sheets.  Parking, Start and Finish will be in the Cable Public lot behind the  Old Cable School. You will be riding your bike through Bayfield, Ashland and Sawyer counties in Northern Wisconsin.

WHY: Because gravel riding is fun, and its better to ride in the wilderness than the cornfields.

HOW: This is the tricky part.  COVID-related concerns are easing up, but we still have to be careful, respectful of the small town where we hold this, and make sure we do not wear out our welcome. Here are our methods of operation this year.

1. Number Plate pickup will be from 7am to Noon in the Cable parking lot.  Tim & Odia will be under the Terrene tent.  We will be wearing masks, and anyone picking up number plates must wear a mask.  If you do not want to wear a mask, do not show up. We understand you may forget, and we may remind you gently if you forget.  If you choose to debate the usefulness of masks with us, you will immediately be disqualified and asked to leave.  Please use social distancing when in line.  Once out of the start area, please use your best judgement when riding.   When in the town of Cable, please adhere to CDC guidelines, and/or requests and rules of local businesses
2. There will not be a mass start.  Start anytime from 8am until Noon, as you are comfortable.  Please actively try to avoid large groups.
3. When you finish, there will be a Terrene board with a clock.  Take a selfie in front of it and send it to us, or just write down your time and let us know.  To avoid mass gathering at the finish, we will not have a timing system set up, or any sort of formal finish line. You can send Finish times, DNFs or other info to tim@terrenetires.com or 715-558-6246
4. As with all Hungry Bear events in the past, each entry comes with a free slice of pie from Tilly’s Pies!  We will include a coupon with your number plate pickup to claim a slice.  Also, the owner of Tilly’s Pies has requested that we not gather en masse in their driveway, to avoid issues in town.  If you see many people in line, please give it a minute.  Tilly’s Pies requires masks to be worn for pickup.  We will also make sure your coupon is good up until the end of 2021, so if its busy, just come back next time you are up and get a free slice of pie then!
5. As results are reported to us, we will be recording them and posting them on Terrene Events Facebook page, as well as sending them out to all participants. 

" If you do not want to wear a mask, do not show up. We understand you may forget, and we may remind you gently if you forget.  If you choose to debate the usefulness of masks with us, you will immediately be disqualified and asked to leave."

It will be interesting to find out if anyone chooses to engage in this debate.
 
(btw, second jab happened this morning!  Went for a ride, no problem.  Seems like the second day is the one in question)

mugwump said:

(btw, second jab happened this morning!  Went for a ride, no problem.  Seems like the second day is the one in question)

24 hours or so is the mark, easy to plan for it too... have some water and snacks ready, let any co-workers or clients know, plan some easy movies, etc... if like most people, it wont be too bad.

mugwump said:

" If you do not want to wear a mask, do not show up. We understand you may forget, and we may remind you gently if you forget.  If you choose to debate the usefulness of masks with us, you will immediately be disqualified and asked to leave."

It will be interesting to find out if anyone chooses to engage in this debate.
 
(btw, second jab happened this morning!  Went for a ride, no problem.  Seems like the second day is the one in question)

I'll report back. May 8th is the ride. Interestingly a much larger ride sent out their pre-race guidance and it was the blizzard of half-assed shit you'd expect.

An increasing number of members is fully vaccinated now. Hopefully this will translate into group rides sometime in the future

The board is sending out an anonymous survey about vaccinations soon. The goal is to help the club plan the timing of reopening group rides. For example, if only 50% have or are getting the vaccine we may be much more cautious than if 90% are doing so