Jun 24, 2014 at 04:36 PM
brb, going to go make some popcorn...
L&C Cup
Jun 24, 2014 at 04:40 PM
Let me join you.
Jun 24, 2014 at 05:09 PM
Well Adam has been doing the triangle all winter/spring/summer/fall I make an occasional cameo. When I was younger the triangle is where I got all my cat IV wattage. That ride is a beast and it will whip you into shape in a hurry. If Jesus has been doing that ride consistently...he will find beast mode. If he is racing on Tuesday and Thursday...he will find beast mode. He is younger (i think) so he can recover from big effort days quicker. I watch Charles Altchek on Strava...that guy is another one who is always on his bike. At the cat IV level, if you have the time to train and you train really hard, you are going to start winning. The 123 field could be anyone's guess about shenanigans going on with the guys who seem suspect. My hardest race as a IV was the last Branchbrook where I saw 280 watts for 45 minutes....The 123 races at Prospect have been avg 290 watts for 1:45. At the masters handicap it was a cool 300 watt weighted avg. Jesus is going to get upgraded soon enough...at this point it sounds like he should raise his hand and request an upgrade as it is unsporting to sandbag (said the guy with 3 green jerseys & a polka dots).
Jun 24, 2014 at 06:15 PM
http://www.aabts.org/safety/How To Recover from Bumping.pdf
Interested in y'alls experience in that situation.
Jun 24, 2014 at 06:42 PM
I've been riding with Triangle guys for the past 8 years. I have been racing for the past few. I know the shit I am talking about. If I am new to you, come and see me. I will intorduce myself.Adam said:I know Jesus; we ride out on Long Island together weekly. He is a friend. He is a warm, personable and friendly character. I have watched him progress well this year from Winter through to now. There is absolutely nothing "mysterious" about him or his success. He was never a "zero". Even in January he was strong enough to whoop the Cat4 field, now with 5 months solid training it is all but a certainty.On the whole, people might want to be careful about insinuating things about others. Especially when they are so new to all of this that they really don't know shit about what they are talking about.
Jun 24, 2014 at 06:46 PM
Don't tell me Vladi, go tell Jesus. Go tell him that you are a seasoned Cat4 racer and know all about doping. Go tell him that you suspect that he is doping and have told your whole club your thoughts. I guess you'll be seeing him this weekend, there's your chance.
Let me know what he says, I am interested.
Jun 24, 2014 at 06:55 PM
Jun 24, 2014 at 06:56 PM
You are hallucinating. I never mentioned doping. I saw him on the triangle rides a handful of times over the past few years with the other guy wearing the Pizza something kit. He was never close to anybody on that ride. Coming back this spring I saw him again and asked him if he ever raced before- he said No. I found it interesting that he was wearing a team kid few years back, but never raced. That's all. I doubt any of people IN Cat 4 have enough resources to use doping, that's pathetic. And I say what I see. If I have something to ask Jesus, I will, you don't have to worry.
Jun 24, 2014 at 07:16 PM
Uh, isn't Kissena currently supporting for the yellow jersey a Cat 4 who has the points to be a Cat 3 with 10+ guys every race?twoyacks said:...at this point it sounds like he should raise his hand and request an upgrade as it is unsporting to sandbag
Jun 24, 2014 at 07:24 PM
Also, Vladi, while it's true that you "never mentioned doping" it seems a stretch to say that Adam is "hallucinating" unless you explain further what you mean by this statement:
VladiKhlopine said:Very mysterious carrier he has had so far in the season. From zero to hero, taking all the races in the Cat 5 , moving into Cat 4, dominating all the races. I do not want to imply anything, but his progress so far was.... eee... impressive.
Jun 24, 2014 at 07:27 PM
Read my last post. Not just the first line.Ryan J said:Also, Vladi, while it's true that you "never mentioned doping" it seems a stretch to say that Adam is "hallucinating" unless you explain further what you mean by this statement:VladiKhlopine said:Very mysterious carrier he has had so far in the season. From zero to hero, taking all the races in the Cat 5 , moving into Cat 4, dominating all the races. I do not want to imply anything, but his progress so far was.... eee... impressive.
Jun 24, 2014 at 07:30 PM
I did.
Jun 24, 2014 at 07:37 PM
OK, the last statement, so I can retire from this topic. I said Jesus progress is mysterious to me. I did not feel I had a right to ask him more questions and he did not offer any information. I do not suggest he was using doping. I wonder when he is going to plateau. I will change the word mysterious to amazing then. Thank you
Jun 24, 2014 at 09:47 PM
Jeezus!!!!!
Jun 25, 2014 at 02:31 AM
@Adam, seeing as he's your mate, do you know what Jesus was doing before January?
It's odd to me too that he's just getting into the sport and killing it at age 31.
Jun 25, 2014 at 02:38 AM
Look it's all over for him at age 33 okay, he's motivated!
Jun 25, 2014 at 02:55 AM
I was off the front with the Jesus last Thursday in a combined field Floyd race. He seemed strong and relaxed. He introduced himself to Yohan, who had been soloing, by gently nudging him with his shoulder as he rode by him. After witnessing that, he struck me as someone with pretty expert bike handling skills. That's no newbie move. I've also heard that he was a monster mountain bike rider before he decided to get serious about road. Could be bullshit, but doping doesn't give you bike handling skills like that, and I feel like this isn't his first rodeo.... bike rodeo... in which I play the clown... wearing suspenders and hiding in barrels when the bulls charge.
Jun 25, 2014 at 03:04 AM
Mountain bikers come around and smash cat 4 and 5 fields... I've seen that happen more than once.
Jun 25, 2014 at 03:07 AM
There are three Jesus Martinez in USAC. The one under discussion isn't a former MTB rider that I can tell. That is a different Jesus.
Jun 25, 2014 at 03:11 AM
Such was the legend of Wilson Vasquez back in the day.Andrew Da Silva said:Mountain bikers come around and smash cat 4 and 5 fields... I've seen that happen more than once.
http://nyvelocity.com/content/interviews/2008/wilson-vasquez
Jun 25, 2014 at 03:22 AM
To expand on Ryan's point above, taken out of context, this whole discussion could be misconstrued as a new gnostic Gospel.
- The major problem is going to be that guy Jesus.
- Jesus is also dominating on Tuesdays and Thursdays
- I know Jesus. He is a
friend. He is a warm, personable and friendly character. There
is absolutely nothing "mysterious" about him or his success.
- If Jesus has been doing that ...he will find beast mode.
- Don't tell me ...., go tell Jesus.
Jun 25, 2014 at 03:30 AM
Yang-Can we get a gif?
Jun 25, 2014 at 05:30 AM
That'll do, pig, that'll do.
Jun 25, 2014 at 08:49 AM
http://www.aabts.org/safety/How To Recover from Bumping.pdfNiall check out the Skillz & Drills thread for updates on wheel bumping drills and avoidance or survival techniques.Interested in y'alls experience in that situation.
Jun 25, 2014 at 12:42 PM
I hate to interrupt tangents about mysteries and gospels, especially when there is a potential for a killer Yang gif, but can I hear a roll call for the Cat 4 race Saturday?
We need all able bodied parishioners to give of themselves to the higher cause that is Kissena glory, be it leading or sweeping. All good deeds are equal in the eyes of the team.
Oh, and the great team in the sky is the one true calling and will crush Jesus. Maybe.
Amen
Gives a whole new meaning to the Kissena Cross Crusade
We need all able bodied parishioners to give of themselves to the higher cause that is Kissena glory, be it leading or sweeping. All good deeds are equal in the eyes of the team.
Oh, and the great team in the sky is the one true calling and will crush Jesus. Maybe.
Amen
Gives a whole new meaning to the Kissena Cross Crusade
Jun 25, 2014 at 01:03 PM
I will be there but not reg'ing b/c Charlie owes me a race.
Jun 25, 2014 at 01:50 PM
I'm in.
All - this is another plea for people to sign up for registration or marshaling. There is no one signed up right now.
All - this is another plea for people to sign up for registration or marshaling. There is no one signed up right now.
Jun 25, 2014 at 02:15 PM
Can we move this discussion about Jesus to NYVelocity? Thanks.
I'll help at registration @Craig.
Jun 25, 2014 at 07:18 PM
I will be there but not reg'ing b/c Charlie owes me a race.Email him your usac id and he'll reg you on bikereg
Jun 26, 2014 at 07:06 PM
Hey guys, holla if you intend to do day of reg so we know how to plan the lead outs this weekend.
If you have a preferred role, post it here so we can accommodate. We need lead out and sweeping for the KOM and finish.
Remember that even if you don't feel you have the legs for a lead out (or you are saving them for the final lead out), you can still help a great deal by sweeping my wheel during the KOM. If there are two sweepers, the first lets a gap open as we hit the hill and the second when I stand up to sprint.
Also, if the lead out team is a small one, then you don't need to start at the classic finish line. Better to hold it back and save it for the run up to the hill and the hill itself.
Finally, the lead out should stick to the right side of the hill so we only have to look over our left side for attacks. If we hit the hill in the center we have to watch both sides.