Overslept, stupid phone alarm left on "vibrate". Good luck peeps

mperlberg said:

Ryan and Joe both in the top 10. 

Ryan snatched up a few KOM points as well. 

Thumbs up! Looking forward to reading the reports!

Flatted out my rear tubular on the lap 1 downhill. Mehlenbeck pulled out and offered me his wheel like a STUD, but it was doing this weird jamming thing in the derailleur. Never seen it happen before. No dice. In terms of time, sleep, and treasure, this was an expensive race. Training has been good; was hoping to contend. Oh well. Congrats to Ryan and Joe for riding strong.

Quick Cat 4 report

Andy won the first sprint
Jim got 3rd in the second sprint
Tito narrowly missed some KOM points
Race finished in a field sprint. I got 9th (dick spot).

Nice. It's a series and every single point is currency. Does Andy have the green jersey?

Little story: Came across Diasloski as I was rolling slowly to the start/finish on my flat. He said he thought the race started at 6:30 so he missed the whistle. He then jumped in on the third lap, took some green jersey points, got in the winning break, took money.

not cool. especially since JP missed the start and did the right thing by sitting it out. 

Oh yeah, Wes Tillman took third in the 5s! Sprinted like a boss.

Man that Dioslaski thing is so lame.

Lots of organized attacks by Ride Brooklyn in the 5s even though nothing stuck. Clifford tried to make a break up the hill on the 4th, but that didn't take either. Weird day where the inside line got jammed up and I got boxed towards the finish. My fault for not moving up earlier.

Any 5s want to do some group drills and coordinate for next week?

Dioslaski should be suspended for the rest of the series.  That dude knows better.  He's been doing this a long time.

Jeff Owens said:

Dioslaski should be suspended for the rest of the series.  That dude knows better.  He's been doing this a long time.

my guess is that it is a moot point since nobody protested at the race. I agree that he knows better. 

To add to the Dioslaski mess, I had a brief conversation with him near the beginning of lap two along the lines of:

My report:

Before the race Mike told me and Joe that he thought we should look for early moves to try to eat up KOM points. So, that's what we did. After Eric drug me to the front early in the first lap, I took turns with Joe covering just about everything. Then, after the downhill on lap 3 (or was it 2?), with a few guys from the right teams lingering up the road I saw Dioslaski start to go across and I figured that move was probably one to be in. 

Next think you know I'm suffering in the break with (sorry, I still don't know names in the 123 field) Mengoni guy, AXA guy, 2 Somervilles, Dioslaski, and that dude Carl who ended up winning. I'm pretty sure I was the only Cat 3. 

The first few laps of the break were hard, hard, hard for me and I suffered mightily (although I still managed to snatch 2nd in the first KOM sprint). Hearing calls like "9 laps to go" when I was already suffering that bad made me go "uh-oh." At some point as we came across start/finish I heard JP call out "you can't get dropped from this Ryan." That helped as it stuck in my head. And eventually I looked around and realized others were suffering too, in fact some looked worse than me. That gave me a little confidence, and once we were well established it slowed down a bit and I actually felt pretty good.

I tried to contest the 2nd KOM sprint but it was hard with Somerville having a lead out man, and I was on the front too soon. Got 4th out of the points.

I did my share of work throughout. Not the most, but certainly not least. Somerville and Mengoni guy were annoying the whole race. Especially Mengoni guy. Total wheel sucker. So last lap I just started leaving him in the wind. He bitched at me to close down a gap and I just said "exactly." I sat on his wheel for most of the lap assuming he wouldn't be willing to let the race get away from him so close to the end, and assuming that he'd be a good wheel at the end.

I ended up getting swarmed in the sprint (my legs felt like they were about to cramp as I sprinted) but I hung on to beat one guy - so I didn't actually get last out of the break!

Many thanks to the Kissenas behind me helping us stay away. Sorry I couldn't buy coffee, the Dioslaski drama made the payout take ages and I didn't get to Konditori until everyone had already coffeed up.

And by the way, that Dioslaski drama pisses me off more the more I think about it. Every one of us who were in the break with him vouched for him because he was there for the whole break and we really thought there was some mistake. I even told the official "I know I followed his wheel into the break on lap 3."

Karl Nelson who won is a cat 3. Great riding Ryan. I saw Joe finish but didn't have the pleasure if seeing him GI because I flatted.

However, I did get to watch Scott savory suffer like a dog every time up the hill. He looked as bad as Jeff Gottesman who is quite a bit older. Kinda funny.

I was just KOM counter, not marshal!

But I completely disagree (except for the pretty smile part ;-).  2-3 laps may not sound like a ton, but it adds up, especially in a break situation.

Whoever took laps out to fix a flat last year in a park race (FBF is generally ok, no?) should have been called out and prevented from reentering.  And the mechanical situation was punished (I'd also argue this forum is rather public and often bleeds into the nyvelocity boards.  It's a small community).

And sure, it's just a park race.  But you can say that about almost any amateur, or even professional event.  At a certain point you have to have respect for the other racers and efforts people like Charlie put in to make it legitimate. 

One last thing: calling out a fellow rider who cheated doesn't mark everyone on his/her club as shameless.  Nor does it put forth the idea that Kissenas are perfect.  Poor acts need to acknowledged for the simple fact they shouldn't be tolerated.

I mean, what if the next park race, Ragot just decides to start on lap 4 or 5.  Is that ok?  Is the limit 2 or 3?  If so, wouldn't everyone just start showing up late and saving their legs those extra 10 miles?

Adam it doesn't matter that the protest is over - he got DQd as he should have so there's no need for it. And yeah, he was strong. In fact, I'd say he was the strongest guy in the move, all day. 

So he got DQ'd after all?

@Joaquin That was my understanding, and its what they're saying on NYVelocity, but its also true that after a time I stepped out of the debate and stopped paying attention until I heard my name called. So its certainly possible I have it wrong.

Not only did the one Kissena, confess to the forum/club, he also confessed and apologized to Charlie personally. And, if memory serves he also got suspended/resigned from the management team of the club that year too.

So, I'm going to say punishment served.

There was also another related, yet unrelated incident that got really ugly, really fast, and I can't remember if I was told some of that stuff in confidence, so I'm going to keep my mouth shut. Except to say that what happened today with Dislowski is NOT EVEN IN THE SAME LEAGUE as the errors in judgement made by aforementioned Kissena rider. But who knows, maybe he'll have a change in heart, confess his sins next week and return his prize money?

p.s. the whole, "it's just a park race" crack just drives me nuts on so many levels...but I'm too tired to rant about that too.

Green jersey sprint:
Apparently I got the first green jersey sprint. Jim did a great job getting me up there, but one more guy would have made a world of difference. Its my fault for not communicating my intentions to get the green until the last minute. I ended up sprinting from much further than 200 meters, pretty much died before the line but threw my bike and must have just gotten it... Right after the sprint i attempted hopping back on, some where half way up the hill i vomited up my breakfast,(I have a bad stomach and really need to make sure i eat three hours before i race) and didn't have anything left to close the gap that opened.

Oh well.
now I really want that green jersey!

Awesome work guys. Sorry to hear about the shenanigans. It's too early in the season to blow through our entire stash of vitriol... Save some for the stage races!

Results are posted and are listed as tentative to a rider being dq'd.


On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 4:15 PM, Andrew Da Silva <

I tried to sneak in half a warm up lap after helping with reg. Everyone was all lined up when I got back to the start/finish so I started at the back of the field and was just hanging out for the first lap. I saw Whitey pull out and thought, that dude is way too strong to have to drop out of this race because of a shitty flat! And during the first lap, no less! I pulled over and could not get my rear wheel out. It made no sense whatsoever. Sorry Jeff, that was pretty lame. Of course it was smooth as butter coming out at home.

Andy, I'm glad and somewhat amazed you were able to pull that out. When I pulled off at the rink entrance and saw it was only you behind me I thought no way you'd be able to hold it for that long. Good work. No wonder you lost your bfast. I went back to try and find you for the second one but of course you were no where to be found in the first half of the pack. I figured you would get up to me if you were able so I went back to the front and just rode wheels as best I could to the line. Happy to help organize the crew if you want to pursue the jersey.