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Does this mean you're racing Myles?
Ugh
I thought this was Sunday... I wont be able to be there for the podium. : (
NOOOO !  What could possibly keep you from the podium ?  


@ 123s

I'm going to try to get there early to help with reg, or at least to give dues a bathroom break. I'd like to sit in the first few laps to warm up and then I'm ready to go at it like a honey badger. 
Sigh... work
i unfortunately have to join mr da silva in the ranks of the absent.  moving will proceed into saturday despite my best efforts today.  sorry.  i look forward to hearing how this master plan pans out
Ugh. Working now which mesns no 3am race
Good luck
On Aug 2, 2013 8:42 PM, "Brendan Rigby" <
i unfortunately have to join mr da silva in the ranks of the absent.  moving will proceed into saturday despite my best efforts today.  sorry.  i look forward to hearing how this master plan pans out
Ugh.....There will be no Brendan "Big-Rig" Rigby to tow me around tomorrow....And Myles I have tried my damnedest but I have failed to come up with a good Prius joke.  They are just too damn sensible !...alas my friends at Ranker.com do not share my failings:

http://www.ranker.com/list/top-5-reasons-why-priuses-suck/thebard
truthfully, yacks, it is because you have spoken ill of my wheels...
I am guilty of (IIED) intentional infliction of emotional distress...also known as the tort of outrage.  I am sad that you have turned a cold shoulder,  but I will be kept warm by my burning hatred of those ostentatiously designed, heavy and ass ugly wheels...I'm suddenly not sad anymore.... 
Yack-fu
Results?!!

the result for me is that I'm laying on my couch in the fetal position watching antiques roadshow and eating pastries. 
Failed to make the muffin rain happen in the 4s. Sad trombone. Jeff Condon had to settle for 4th. Yaks got a big ass trophy though!
Big HONKIN trophy...Yang's rubbed it for luck.  What a series.  Jeff Condon almost got on 2 podiums.  He finished in 4th place for the series, and did it the hard way in breaks.  He had a fantastic series.  Andy won the Green jersey and I grabbed the Dots.  Kissena has now won the Green jersey for 5 STRAIGHT YEARS !  That is doing it like a boss.  In the dots,  Kissena put together some awesome trains.  I was shepherded right to the top of the climbs.  It was like fishing with dynamite !  Foundation showed up in force today and drilled it from the gun.  If u like #'s...my weighted avg 260 watts and hr. 175 = firmly ensconced in the pain cave.  Jeff could not find a move that would stick and  Foundation could not shake Carl.  It came down to a very close sprint in the finale for the overall...Carl wins by a wheel over Foundation's Charlie.  
Nice riding Kissena...and you stay classy.
Yacks
No, mine was used so some of those are obselete. Hey 40$ worth of gas gets
me to montreal....
On Aug 2, 2013 9:12 PM, "twoyacks" <
8/3/20132
Average speed  25.3

Yep, faster race today.  The small field got strung out quite a few times in the 4s.  It was overcast, but a pleasant morning, I felt a few drops litter the course as we raced, but nothing to cool it down.  From the start, guys punched the front line in the gut and I felt it.  KCCs had a great race and every time I elbowed my way to the front to see what on earth was going on, there were team jerseys up there looking strong.
With 2 to go, I watched a rider swerve into Brian from CIS, and they stayed up.  There were a couple of sketchy wheels, one from Major Taylor, another on the Mineola team.  But riders were getting tired and I figured I would either be up front, or drop off and stay safe.  

With 1 to go, I got caught behind the 3 man crash going up the hill.  Harry, you ok?  It looked like everyone stopped pretty hard, but at a slower point of the race.  I avoided someone's hand and a pair of white-framed glasses (odd the details we remember) and when I looked up, the peloton was gone.  I struggled to TT and at the bottom of the hill, Phil and I pacelined and he pulled me over the finish line.
I had nothing left to give by the end of the race, so I'm happy I put everything into it I had, and, while last, off the back, I can't think of a better way to finish a race than crossing the finish with a teammate.

Congrats to the winners and points folks and trophy takers.  You guys really rocked this series and Yaks, I can't imagine what you look like without the dots.  And congrats to the 5s who raced today, had a safe race and finished strong.
Fast in the 5s - my fastest lap and 2lap times, at just under 26mph. Then I dropped, because apparently riding once every two weeks is different than actually training? Who knew!
results posted.

http://results.prtiming.com/?page_id=105#/results::1375556797901

27.3 mph. fastest race of the year for the 123s. that is why it hurt. 
Kayt finished with the pack! Big congratulations Kayt.
^Merci Thierry! It was a good group and a lot of fun. 
I was reminded of the sad look on the face of the guy who cracked his frame this morning (read crushed), and wondered - do any of y'all buy crash insurance for racing?  I didn't think it was a thing, but there seems to be at least one company that covers damage acquired during racing (http://www.markelbikeinsurance.com/)

Given how crashtastic things can be, it seems crazy not to if it's available (and you have a nice bike). I mean, I saw at least two sets of mad fibers in Cat5 this morning... that's just nutso.
BiG BravO!
2 Kayt, went from a Womens 123 Race w/primes (22mph avg) to an ALL out cat5 late season race (24mph avg); i know this is not fancy "power" data but, in my book thats a jump!
chapeau KW!
-h;-)
A few thoughts about yesterday's 4s race now that I'm out of my stupor from racing and then playing 18 holes of golf afterward.

Yesterday's race was hard. Foundation went with their approach to drill it from the start and soften up the field. Nothing managed to get away. On the final KOM, Yang pulled from the bottom of the hill to somewhere near the start finish and I'm not sure who took up the charge at that point. On the hill Yacks drilled it hoping to launch Condon into a break but nothing stuck. On the final lap, there was a crash at the bottom of the hill which took out several people and in the chaos a number of gaps started opening up. I had to jump around a couple of people on the hill to close gaps down and after GAP I could see there were 2 distinct groups ahead of me. Can't say if there were any other groups behind me. On the one hand I was certain that Condon was in the front group so I wasn't too concerned about making sure Condon had a good finish and hence thought about calling it a day. I chased a bit, found some wheels and we came all back together by the top of, or on the hill. 

At that point it was all together and while I was near the back I was able to improve my position relatively easily to an extent. I didn't see Condon and I figured I'd freelance it to the end. I was moving up quite well until just at the first drive of our start/finish triangle. Two guys who were slightly ahead of me, but that I was closing in on, decided they wanted to move closer to each other and I didn't want to become part of a Craig sandwich. I grabbed some brake and once the danger subsided (this is all milliseconds) I continued my lame seated sprint. Came in 19th. I'm still figuring out positioning at the end of the race but I'm steadily improving and am happy with the result. 

26.7 mph avg speed according to the official results. 26.2 avg according to Garmin/GC. Here are my lap times with average speed:
1 08:12 24.8
2 07:41 26.1
3 07:38 26.4
4 07:52 25.6
5 07:21 27.3
6 08:01 24.7
7 07:39 26.3
8 07:30 26.8
9 07:19 27.3

It was a great season racing with everyone in the 4s. Our teamwork shined once again. Collectively we won the sprint competition, the KOM competition, got a second podium spot on the KOM competition and contested a podium spot on the overall too. For me it was a season that started with DNFs after getting dropped early that progressed to being able to hang in the fastest race of the season and being in the mix of things at the end. Patience and persistence is rewarded in this sport. Already looking forward to doing it again with all of you next year.  

26.7 mph avg speed according to the official results. 26.2 avg according to Garmin/GC. Here are my lap times with average speed:
1 08:12 24.8
2 07:41 26.1
3 07:38 26.4
4 07:52 25.6
5 07:21 27.3
6 08:01 24.7
7 07:39 26.3
8 07:30 26.8
9 07:19 27.3


Were these times typical of this year's series?  Anything under a 7:45 per lap is way fast for a Cat 4 field.
Finally, visual proof that @Craig raced this weekend... your marriage is safe.

http://www.oneimagingphotography.com/2013RaceSeasonSeason/LucarelliCastaldiCupRace83/LucarelliCastaldiCupRace8313/30969602_VMSMdx#!i=2678193714&k=ZvRLmnC

http://nyvelocity.com/gallery/image/10148?page=7
Charlie L said:

26.7 mph avg speed according to the official results. 26.2 avg according to Garmin/GC. Here are my lap times with average speed:
1 08:12 24.8
2 07:41 26.1
3 07:38 26.4
4 07:52 25.6
5 07:21 27.3
6 08:01 24.7
7 07:39 26.3
8 07:30 26.8
9 07:19 27.3


Were these times typical of this year's series?  Anything under a 7:45 per lap is way fast for a Cat 4 field.
Holy Christ !!!!! He's ALIVE !!!!!   Charlie, you have been gone long enough to be declared legally dead....
Talking to Jeff C after the race it dawned on me that I royally fudged up the leadout.

1. Went too early.  I hit the front hard right after the temple and blew up just after the boards.  My thought at the time was that the pace was slowing down and Foundation's guys in front - and the rest of the field - seemed to be taking a breather in prep for the field sprint.  I felt the pace needed to remain high to keep Jeff in a good spot, but...

2. Didn't tell and/or find any other Kissenas to go to the front with me.  If we had at least one more set of legs, maybe the combined firepower could have put Jeff at a better position by the crosswalk?

Being new to this, I can take this is a learning/growing experience, but wish it didn't happen during a bid for the series podium spot.  Sorry, Jeff, if I ever make it into the 3s by some clerical accident, I.O.U. one leadout.

Besides all the what-ifs, I had a great time racing the series with everyone and looking forward to doing it again next year.  And seriously, a non-ironic Martin Prince "excelsior!" to Yacks, Andy, Jeff C.  
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Excelsior indeed! I am genuinely sorry my "Quest for Points" prevented me from joining you lads in the finale.

Well done all; that looked like a blazing fast race with a lot on the line. What a difference a season makes - just think how much wilier you will all be in the freezing rain and pre dawn darkness of March, 2014...

Racing in full winter kit is grand, isn't it?
Congrats to the L&C boss crew... wonderful series!
mperlberg said:
results posted.


27.3 mph. fastest race of the year for the 123s. that is why it hurt. 
I think the promoters slightly over-estimate the distance and thus the slightly higher number.  But it sure reads tough.  For the Strava-minded, for one of the approximately two zillion full-lap Strava segments in Prospect Park, I now have the second-fastest time--6:56.  I don't know how Cuttler managed a full 12-seconds faster, and on 2010 technology.  Whatever.

Me, Keith, Jersey Mike, Rene, Stokes, and Joaquin were the lineup.

It was fast.  Early on, there were lots of splits.  We were covering htem.  I think we only missed out on one--unfortunately, it was like 25 guys.

I think my fast lap was early.  I got into a break by the start/finish, drove it to the ampitheatre where it was losing steam, Perlberg came by on someone else's wheel and a new group was formed.  I got on that.  We were killing it across the flats and seemed like we were about to get caught as we started up the hill again.  But the field took a breather and it came back together past GAP.  

Kind of felt like the whole race went like that.  I got into a move before the first sprint, but Diolsaki was there with a challenger and they were playing cat-and-mouse.  I didn't think I could outkick them and the others weren't going to let me go, so I set tempo just to make sure we stayed away a bit longer.

Somewhere later, I was in a move that was halfway shut down on the descent and then Joaquin jumped by in a group.  I figured confusion was the only way to succeed, so I followed some wheels to Joaquin, and when his group slowed, I went again.  Nothing.

It started to seem that the big problem was the Foundation squad.  They were getting into moves and not driving them.  Considering they had the deepest squad, it was weird.  One of the Alexander brothers, not usually an aggressor was riding aggressively.  Alejandro Guzman, often an aggressor, was pretty quiet until later in the race.  Their beasts, Rafael Meran and Euris Vidal weren't doing much other than countering up to moves that they weren't really killing.  

I took a last shot by countering the final prime sprint at three to go.  Got a gap and went solo up the hill and was caught by a small group at GAP, but the field, which I think was foundation-led, was intent to chase it down.  At that point, we commenced to ride two fairly slow laps to the finish.  I didn't want a bunch sprint, but I wasn't seeing a way out of it unless I tried to spur a hail mary move or was able to line up behind Foundation for the sprint.

Unfortunately, slow means stupid.  Someone rode into Keith right before the curve to the ampitheatre and probably 10 guys went down.  Keith stayed up.  I was behind it, and had to get around.  I had been waiting for the left curve to get into position.  Alas.

Kudos to WS United for going 1-2 ahead of Foundation, which then took the next several places.  Foundation kept it together to get beat.  Classic.

Race notes: Karl Nelson of Krebs was racing with one of his rear brake pads missing.  I alerted him of this, he acknowledged it fell off somewhere, and kept racing.  Perhaps it might have something to do with the fact he doesn't have any set screws in his SRAM pad holders.  The Giro helmet he might have won in the sprint competition is surely worth more than the carbon Hed wheel he had.  And after the race, he showed me he had found it.  Cesar Marte tried to pull a Stalin Quiterio and decided at the top of the descent to take both hands off the bars and casually remove his sunglasses.  For Keith's sake, and mine, he stayed up.