All righty then. I will start preparing the fist of death
On Feb 4, 2014 4:48 PM, "Gwynna Smith" <

I think we can manage this perfectly well race-by-race. I will not be signing up for an L&C race that already has 17 KCCs pre-reg'd (unless it's bizarro world, and I'm in contention for a jersey). I think a lot of folks feel that way.

Boitano so chock full of win
On Feb 5, 2014 12:39 PM, "Jeffrey White" <

Yellow Ice pb Brian Boitano?

Yellow snow. Yellow snow.

Bb and the zambonis appearing at a pp race near you.

Ha. Pp.
Yellow snow
On Feb 5, 2014 12:52 PM, "Jeffrey White" <

So I'm finally beginning to see some glimmerings of my race-ready self, in time (I hope) for some Prospect Races.  One of my big goals for the season is to be useful in a Cat 3 leadout... so what's the plan?

Do we have all the parts?  Renshaw, sweeper, sprinter...?

God help me if I get sucked into another leadout conversation.

Jules said:

So I'm finally beginning to see some glimmerings of my race-ready self, in time (I hope) for some Prospect Races.  One of my big goals for the season is to be useful in a Cat 3 leadout... so what's the plan?

Do we have all the parts?  Renshaw, sweeper, sprinter...?

Wait, I'm pretty sure that all the L&C races are 1/2/3 fields, right?

You have no idea how excited I am for you cat 3s to race with us and so, sometime in the not so distant future, you too can share stories about how you were going to bridge to the winning break, but couldn't hold the wheel of that f-ing doper.

Seriously though, if we can get a squad together of 4 to 6 medium to extra-strong cat 3s to join the likes of Partland, Perlberg, Ragot and Ryan on any given Sunday. Hot damn! I don't care how many times he attacks the hill, Duslowski doesn't have a shot in hell of going anywhere without a Kissena glued to his wheel.

vlad said:

God help me if I get sucked into another leadout conversation.

And I thought you were counting the days till you can turn the screws on the local peloton.

I am mugs... just more into beating cyclists than dead horses.

I've been known to be stupid enough to contest a sprint... I.e. I would like to give sprinting a shot.

edit...see below.

Marc,

"provocative"

"silly and unproductive."

I love how I have so many editors on the forum. Anyone else on the club get this treatment?

How about this re-write:

This is exciting news. Andy Da Silva, a proven sprinter on the road and track, has cautiously dipped his toe in murky waters by expressing interest in sprinting for the big prize. I believe it would be exceptional if we, his teammates, would rally around him and support him in his goals. Goals incidentally, which would be both beneficial to him personally, but as our growth as a team.

@Marc I enjoy your "go hard or go home" fiery rhetoric, don't go changing.

@Marc don't go braiding your Ponytail any different just because the winds are swirling.  Hotlist is unique, and deserves unique treatment - both the mockery and the respect!

I am happy to see someone rallying the troops, whether they have a ponytail or not.  Looking forward to seeing everyone working together on race day.

Ok, relax, and please stop talking about leadouts.

Sorry Vlad-o, I disagree. Sometimes you gotta try and fail.

I go away from the forum for a couple weeks and the annual "Too Many Kissena's in the L&C Cup" discussion comes around. We normally waits until we're actually in the middle of the season for this to flare up. There's F***ing 3 feet of snow on the ground people! I know racing starts in a month but we're going to have to do Grants Tomb on fat bikes if this weather keeps up! 

Have we had a successful leadout in a park 123 race in recent history? Can someone name the teams that have? I can. From what I remember, our p123 wins/results have come from breaks.

It's been a long winter on the trainer for everybody, apparently.

Yeah, Dan and others saying we are trying to "tell people they can't race" - that's just a mischaracterization of the discussion. Whatever you think about whether we should make an effort to limit our numbers in races, that's an oversimplification.

May I make the following suggestion?

For L&C races Kissena get $10 off the entry fee, right? How about we scrap that? Instead, for every Kissena who enters, Charlie gets his $25 entry fee or whatever it is and the additional $10 that Kissena used to get as discount is donated to the drug testing fund. So, Kissenas will pay the same as all other teams. This will have the following repercussions;

1) The extra $10 will make the race a certain expense so when people are on the fence they are more likely not to register, taking numbers down a bit to reasonable levels.

2) We as a club will actively, at a certain personal expense, contribute very visibly to anti doping in OUR race.

3) If we still get 47 Cat 4s in the race, at least it will be a massive contribution to local testing. Maybe other teams will then want more Kissenas to race?

4) Everyone gets to wear a Kissena jersey and nobody is barred from racing.

This suggestion should serve to do three things: improve public image, marginally reduce Kissena numbers in races and not veto anyone's participation. If it has no effect, it can be reviewed at the end of Summer and tweaked or abandoned.

The cost? Well, everyone look back to last year. Maybe in the series the serious attendees went to what, 5 or 6 races in this series? So they'll be hit 'hardest'. $60.

Damn @Adam. That's a helluva an idea.

I'm wearing all black. Sneaky Reporter cat burglar style.

@Owens any excuse to pretend you on team Rapha...?

No way will I wear overpriced Rapha in a park race! I don't have the special magnets to keep on your number and the crash tastic nature of them isn't conducive to keeping a $300 kit in one piece.