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L&C cup 2nd race 

Cat 4 - Roll call and early strategy

This week we have a jersey to defend and rumor has it that Rigby likes yellow, so it sounds like a lead out train is in order. In the past Kissena has killed it for the green and KOM but fallen short with the finishing train. While this may have to do with the speed at the finish, it is more likely due to burning too many matches early in the race. 

I suggest three goals:
1. Defend the KOM jersey
2. Go for the win
3. Go for the green (tentative)

The above includes getting teammates into breaks early and often, but I have kept the green jersey as a tentative goal given that dedicating guys to a green jersey lead out means burning the matches of 4+ racers that may be better served leading out the finishing sprint. If we skip the green jersey lead outs we should still have the horsepower in the finish to lead Rigby out. Even better if we can get Harry, Bruce or Jim some grey jersey points. 

I suggest we see how many racers we have registered before we commit to the green jersey.  Note that racers who want to go for the green should feel free to make it known, not only is my strategy subject to critique, but our plans on the road are likely to change dramatically.

Roles:
2-3 riders covering breaks during first half of race
2-3 riders covering breaks second half of race
3-4 riders leading out for KOM
4-6 riders leading out for final sprint

Rather than assign racers to each role, I'd like to ask each of you to volunteer for one or more roles depending on your strengths and ambitions. Note that it makes sense to have more than one role, just don't bite off more than you can chew. 

So, let everyone know if you are racing and which role(s) you would like to take on. Feel free to comment on the plan as it can be improved. I'll post more detailed strategy later in the week.

Unfortunately I'm out of town this weekend. Kill it you guys.
I'm excited!  Working reg as well.  See you all at 5:15 AM on a . . . Saturday. . .

I might end up racing on the Yaksbanes!  Chris, wear your crosses and garlic.  I don't want you to get hurt.
BTW, If you have different ideas for goals for the Cat 4 race, please speak up. 
@Patrick - I'm in and a willing party of any of the roles as needed.  Ideally I'd like to help with leading out Rigby for the win/yellow, but have no problem working for another goal (defending KOM).
Depending upon the numbers, I might get all murdered out again. I wouldn't be much help anyway as I've barely been able to ride since Cali.
Brendan I got my upgrade....and it's gonna take more than crosses and garlic to save me in that pit of piranas and hyenas I'll be racing in.
I'm on the fence. I'll try to cover stuff in the beginning if I reg. 

Okay, Cat 1/2/3s, roll call! Who's racing on Saturday? Who wants teammate support? Are we going to try and keep the good vibes from solid team racing in CP and Branchbrook and make it transfer to the other park?

Couple of notes, questions...
  1. What's up with the 6am start? Don't the parks have a "not in darkness rule?" Am I misremembering last year's start times? 6:30 starts mean the difference between an early start to my day and a "are you insane, I have to set my alarm to go off before 4am?!" start.

  2. On the results sheet, riders are either classified as "P1/2/3 Open" or "P1/2/3 Masters." Last week there were two 40+ riders--Eric Goret and Erin Korff--who finished in 5th and 6th place respectively but are classified as "P1/2/3 Open." Is there a selection in the registration process where you can opt out of the Master's competition? Because if not, then it seems that after Eugene (winner winner chicken dinner), then Eric should be wearing the silver/grey old-dude's kit.

http://prtiming.com/2014-lucarelli-castaldi-cup-round-1/#/results::13967922912340

Just Reg'd for the 5's race. Looks like lots of KCC guys will be there with me. 
I'm out Saturday. May have another hack at FBF masters Sunday.
@PatrickG - I just signed up but frankly I have no confidence in my fitness so far, but I'll help if I can in whatever.
Marc,
The grey jersey competition is for 45+.  Perhaps that has something to do with hit.

on that front, since Eugene Boronow won the race and is 47 years of age, he's both the overall leader and the 45+ leader.  BUt as he can't wear two jerseys at once, I'll be wearing the grey jersey (and bibs) on Saturday.  The first five 45+ guys get scored.  Right now, It's Eugene, me, Aaron Katin, Tony Taylor, and Thomas Cipolla.

don't know who else amongst the 45+ contenders will be there on Saturday.  I'll be there rocking the grey.
Is the finish line moved due to the construction? Do we know how its going to work - like, are they going to put pedestrians on the outside or inside of those barriers?

If they're going to be on the outside, yikes. Sounds like a recipe for disaster.
mugwump said:
Marc,
The grey jersey competition is for 45+.  Perhaps that has something to do with hit.

on that front, since Eugene Boronow won the race and is 47 years of age, he's both the overall leader and the 45+ leader.  BUt as he can't wear two jerseys at once, I'll be wearing the grey jersey (and bibs) on Saturday.  The first five 45+ guys get scored.  Right now, It's Eugene, me, Aaron Katin, Tony Taylor, and Thomas Cipolla.

don't know who else amongst the 45+ contenders will be there on Saturday.  I'll be there rocking the grey.
Duh....45+. 'Course. Sometimes I'm an idiot. (sometimes) I guess I had the R&A 40+ master's series on the brain a bit.
I'm in for the fours on Saturday – will be fun, my first race at PP. Frankly without having raced the course or even much experience racing with a team hard to know exactly where I can be best... but it could be covering breaks and if I have anything left in the tank being part of a lead out for someone who can actually sprint :)
In for cat5, early breakaway maybe?
@ryan - I just asked Charlie. He said the finish line will be in the same spot and that the parks dept  agreed to his suggestions below image
@ryan - I just asked Charlie. He said the finish line will be in the same spot and that the parks dept  agreed to his suggestions below image

I'm out of town this weekend so will miss Saturday.
Count me out. I'll be racing in Dutch country PA on Saturday. Will be at FBF on Sunday though.
I'm in for Saturday.   Still wetting my beak in the 1/2/3 field so I plan on sitting in for the first half of the race...then maybe I can get to the front and help out.  I do plan on getting in position on the 1st KOM...not for points but to make sure if a break goes I can get close enough to latch onto the back of it.  The 1st KOM is where the break went last time and I can't see any reason why they won't try it again.
I'm likely in for the 123 on Sat.
@niallsmart‌ welcome to our merry band of misfits. We've all got start somewhere and Saturday is as good a day as any. Introduce yourself in person (I'll be wearing the funny polka dot kit) and we will be happy to have your help. The key is to stay close enough to the front of the pack to be able to communicate with each other about what needs to get done.

Kissena tends to have a number of events aimed to building teamwork strategies. Don't be afraid to ask.
In the 1/2/3's, it looks like Mengoni is bringing everyone.  guess we know who to watch ;)
mugwump said:
In the 1/2/3's, it looks like Mengoni is bringing everyone.  guess we know who to watch ;)
Ok, I'll be on the lookout for the riders in white, of widely varying strength, riding chaotically.
Im in for saturday in Ppark. Gonna call the boss at van dessel to ask about sporting my kissena jersey (mostly because I'm traumatized from being hunted by @JohnMalcolmson‌!) See you guys bright and early.
I am gonna suck wheel like I've never sucked wheel before....The Mengoni crew are on fresh carbon frames...here is to hoping none of them have their fit dialed in yet.
I saw 3 of the Mengoni guys in Piermont this morning.. They where sitting in the cafe for a very long time, Instead of training- We got this.
Whomever is coordinating L&C Marshalling this weekend, Charlie needs one extra:

"I would like to have a reliable KISSENA marshal in this location.  The marshal's responsibility is to make sure all park users are directed to stay in the rec lane in this area.  That means a persistent, flag-waiving, whistle-blowing marshal directing all runners, cyclists, etc to stay in the rec lane.  

If a park user does not head the warning and stays in the main roadway and is engulfed in a fieldsprint he/she can't simply cross the double white line and move into the rec lane as there will now be barricades preventing this. "