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Cyclocross!

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Clinic 9am saturday sept 14th. Cunningham park 199th and union turnpike.
I plan on heading out to Cunningham on Saturday. Driving from Park Slope, leaving about 8:00 or a bit after. I have space for 3 more.

With shotgun shell blasts echoing off the banked walls of the T-town Velodrome,
18 of Kissena's most skilled and enthusiastic cyclocross fanatics, stayed far clear of the concrete bunker and instead tore up the neighboring fields for two days of UCI-legit cyclocross racing. Racing across most categories, the white, blue and orange held their own on a weekend where the weather was largely warm and dry, the course was familiar and the results solid.

Seemingly minor, but actually influential changes to the course included taking out one tree-lined tunnel, straight but rooty stretch, on the the far end, instead routing riders on a parallel stretch of slightly off-camber grass and widening the exit to many of the twisty-turny bits, allowing racers to more smoothly pedal through ultimately faster lines.

So how did Kissena do? Who makes Hotlist's top ten this week? In week one of the Hotlist, there are bound to be a few surprises.

  1. Todd McLoughlin, is this week's number one. No argument, no discussion. He's number one and you are not. On the heels of shredding shit up during CX practice sessions with Ragot and Co., McLoughlin lines up in the very competitive 2/3/4 category on Saturday, overcomes a 4th lap crash, and charges to the line in 17th place out of 101 riders. For those of you who have to "race and run" you might consider taking yourself to school by scheduling extra time to watch this dude race.

  2. Eric Ragot hangs onto the number two spot. Crossresults.com points ranking system would place this guy on the top of the heap, but having spent the weekend getting spanked by some of the country's best cyclocrossers, then riding solo OTB and getting pulled and placed, Hotlist can't give him the top spot this week. But he's still way better than you. So he earns number two.

  3. Jim Feehan rides rock solid and steady to earn 3rd on this week's hotlist. Picking up where he left off last season, and the season before, Feehan is a steady presence in the front third of the 45+ MAC peloton. Sunday was the stronger of his two finishes, narrowly missing out on a sprint at the line for 24th. Still, 25th in the 45+? Yeah, that's solid result to start the season.

  4. Joaquin de Baca just misses out on bronze, but comes in a strong fourth. Riding a sweet new cyclocross rig with feathery light breaks, de Baca races both days, culminating with a 38th place finish on Sunday's 2/3/4 race. Crossresults.com pointage, ranks this race as his best of the past 2 seasons. Hotlist agrees.

  5. Patrick Grehan demands a National's-style podium so he can stand tall among Kissena's best. A mysterious no-show on Saturday, Grehan comes into Sunday with a fresh set of legs and a front row start and turns in a rock solid 10th place in the Cat 4/5 race.

  6. David Stokes continues to ride at the front of the Kissena peloton and snags number six on the hotlist. Overcoming start line confusion, Stokes rides from the back of a 33-rider peloton to finish in 19th. Hotlist sees a top-10 is this dude's future. (Someone check his skewers at Town Hall please)

  7. Michael Perlberg is solid in seven. Teaming up with Ragot for the double Pro beat-down this weekend, he was the back-marker both days, and with just a handful of 2012 season results in the books, he's one of the tougher crossers to rank at the moment, but that never stopped Hotlist from being all judgey. Prove Hotlist wrong, okay?

  8. Konrad Ratzmann traded his Subaru for a spot in the top 10. A frustrating weekend on and off the bike for the dude who KILLED it at GMSR, he still managed to snag 48th place in Saturday's 2/3/4 race. With his beloved car at the junkyard, and an early season reminder that cyclocross starts are critical, Hotlist suspects that he might rocket up the rankings in a hurry.

  9. Keith Snyder. Damn, dude. Start at the back of a 92-rider Cat 4 field and finish in 31st? Then reload for the cat 2/3/4 race just a few hours later and finish 79 out of 95? That's the kind of tough-guy antics that virtually guarantees a top ten in the Hotlist. Rumor has it somewhere Frank McCormick felt a disturbance in the force, (as Snyder pedaled around the course in some ridiculously huge gear) clutched his own knees and checked himself into arthroscopic surgery. Snyder has serious voodoo powers, will he use them for good or evil this cross season?

  10. Alex Vaughan and Rick Perner are going all sharesies for the last spot on this week's Hotlist. First cross race for them ever and to quote Mr. Perner who said it better than I can: "I raced yesterday. It was my first cross race. Cyclocross is absolutely fucking amazing. I can't remember the last time I had this much fun. I am hooked." Yes, Rick, yes it is. Welcome.

Next two weeks looks to be quiet on the competition front. As a reminder, you don't have to race EVERY weekend to remain on the hotlist, but if you miss more two or more weekends of racing you drop off the list until your next race (unless you've lost your form and suck-it at the aforementioned race).

Ragot is running another valuable cross clinic this coming weekend at Cunningham Park making sure that Kissena is dominant in all racing categories at upcoming races. It looks like Bertucco, Perner and de Baca are the only ones currently registered to actually race between now and the weekend of the 28th where Kissena's will split their squads sending riders to compete at Gloucester and Town Hall.

Here are a few pics from post ride festivities at Nittany.  What a great afternoon.  This is what it's about, folks.

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I see HPCX on the calendar, and on the MAC website, but can not find it on bikereg, and the link to register from the site does not work.....Any ideas?

P.S. love the pictures. Sorry I missed it. Two weeks....Two long weeks to wait
BTW, I'm in for Saturday

Dear hotlist,

Your race every two weeks rule sucks. No close racing for 3 weeks.
mperlberg said:
Dear hotlist, Your race every two weeks rule sucks. No close racing for 3 weeks.
Hotlist mostly disagrees, but understands your position and is pondering simply making the next hotlist publish date after the Gloucester/Town Hall weekend when everyone seems to be racing. Because reading about how awesome like three racers who may or may not actually be that awesome (Bertucco comes to mind) is boring. Hotlist hates to be boring.
Hotlist better bring his goddamn HOTTEST PEN YET 'cause I'm a reg'd for this Mountain of Greenery or some such race weekend up yonder and I've got an empty van filled with BARRELS OF WHUPASS just waiting to be unleashed 'neath my knobby tires...

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Reminder. Saturday 9am Cunningham park clinic for cx. I'll be there, I think Myles too. Plus Luka will be there to instruct and heckle. He also does beer handups very well.
Hello everybody, so who's going to green mountain cx this weekend for both days? I'm hoping to go but need a ride. I could help pay for gass and driving duties but only if its an automatic.

Hi Nelson, my family will be up at Green Mountain, but we've got a full car and we're staying extra days to vacation. I don't know where you live but rental car prices have dropped since the summer driving season is over...New Jersey locations will be your cheapest options (consider packing light, riding your bike to the rental place and leave from there?).
I plan on going to Cunningham Saturday. Where do you guys park? Street / lot? Can you park where the tennis courts are? http://goo.gl/maps/hzsEZ
go here and park right by the pin:

https://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=40.732879,-73.771936&daddr=Cunningham+Park,+Oakland+Gardens,+NY+11364&hl=en&geocode=;CZibz6WdL7MuFfuXbQIdRmKa-ymzjRjZmWHCiTEqREqw5d8bwQ&sll=40.732552,-73.771892&sspn=0.002366,0.002411&vpsrc=0&t=h&gl=us&mra=mift&mrsp=0&sz=19&ie=UTF8&z=18&iwloc=A&q=40.732879,-73.771936

Hotlist Reality Check for all Gloucester crossers:
Evaluating the crossresults.com points awarded this weekend at Nittany and comparing them to points awarded at last year's Gloucester shows an unexpectedly LARGE discrepancy.

The Cat 4 35+ master's winner at Gloucester 2012 was awarded 379 quality points. The winner of this year's Cat 4/5 Nittany? 438 points. In fact if we were racing on points, and we messed with the space-time continuum, the winner of this year's Nittany would have been in a battle for 20th place at last year's Gloucester.

Fortunately, we do not race on points alone, and we have time to train. Train, train, train. It could be rough going in Gloucester for Kissena, if we're not diligent.
mperlberg said:
On the grass? Won't that mess with our drills? ;-)

Thanks. See you Saturday.

If anyone needs a ride, I've got room for 3. I'm leaving from DUMBO.

Hotlist Reality Check for all Gloucester crossers:
Evaluating the crossresults.com points awarded this weekend at Nittany and comparing them to points awarded at last year's Gloucester shows an unexpectedly LARGE discrepancy.

The Cat 4 35+ master's winner at Gloucester 2012 was awarded 379 quality points. The winner of this year's Cat 4/5 Nittany? 438 points. In fact if we were racing on points, and we messed with the space-time continuum, the winner of this year's Nittany would have been in a battle for 20th place at last year's Gloucester.

Fortunately, we do not race on points alone, and we have time to train. Train, train, train. It could be rough going in Gloucester for Kissena, if we're not diligent.

The quality of the field was probably lower at Nittany. More brand new racers (cat 5s) and fewer experienced masters racers. The points are based on who is in the field, not the category or total entrants. Of course you all know that. 



Marc watched me race . . .

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and I still didn't make the Hotlist
Keep this guy as far from a CX race as possible... I think he'd school the lot of us...

http://m.animalnewyork.com/2013/citi-bike-bmx/

Another video "training" tip from Meyerson's CX camp. Except, this one, I kind of hate. Alec Donahue is without question one of the best regional crossers, and he may be a good coach too, but based on what I see in this interview, I would never want to work with this dude. So depressing. "He'd be like, well, what do you expect, your fat, you might as well quit. Or not. Whatever. I don't care."

http://dirtwire.tv/2013/09/cycle-smart-cx-camp-al-donahue-on-ideal-cornering-weight-and-the-best-cornerers/
^This is a good video @Marc.  What do you want him to say, "physics doesn't apply?"


@Jules-Some of the shots near the end in the Citi Bike video were shot at Ride Brooklyn developed pump track in Williamsburg.  Very cool.
Jules said:
^This is a good video @Marc.  What do you want him to say, "physics doesn't apply?"


I think what bother's me most is his defeatist, lackadaisical delivery. Kind of a passive F-U to bigger guys. It reminds me of way back when I was looking for my first cycling coach, I interviewed one guy, who, upon hearing my goal was to turn pro, was like, "sometimes it's time to grow up."

And then after spending a few minutes of being very definitive about the physics of it all, he sort of stumbles around coming up with examples that may or may not support his theory.

But mostly it was his delivery that makes me think, he would not be the coach for me.
Hello everybody, so who's going to green mountain cx this weekend for both days? I'm hoping to go but need a ride. I could help pay for gass and driving duties but only if its an automatic.
Hey Nelson, be sure to update your profile in Bikereg to reflect your new team: "Kissena Cycling Club." Right now, it looks like you don't have a team. When really you are now part of the world's greatest group of hooligans. Hopefully you got a jersey or two with the most recent clothing order.
mperlberg said:
Clinic 9am saturday sept 14th. Cunningham park 199th and union turnpike.
Is this still happening?

I may ride out with the brooklyn crew, but then ride the trails at Cunningham instead of cross practicing.

Any takers?
I'll be driving to the clinic tomorrow.  The plan is to leave from Washington Heights around 8:30 AM.  I have room for two additional bikes (one would be in the trunk though).
The brooklyn crew is heading from GAP at 8am, right?
Alex, I'm driving from Bklyn. You're welcome to a ride. I'm in Park Slope, leaving just after 8:00.
if i attend, i will be riding out from GAP at 8am

i'll prob post later tonight based on how i'm feeling
On my way to Green Mountain CX with my new kit. So stoked on flying these this weekend