^not to mention the total resurrection of North American cycling, which his early story is widely (and I think fairly) credited with. Outside of the people who began racing seriously in lemond era, i think it's fair to say most of today's young pro and 30-40 something amateurs got their start listening to Phil, Bobke et al comment on the postal/discovery odessey while choking on michelob ultra and Viagra adds...

^not to mention the total resurrection of North American cycling, which his early story is widely (and I think fairly) credited with. Outside of the people who began racing seriously in lemond era, i think it's fair to say most of today's young pro and 30-40 something amateurs got their start listening to Phil, Bobke et al comment on the postal/discovery odessey while choking on michelob ultra and Viagra adds...

I did! And I ain't scared to admit it! I even wanted to buy a US Postal trek. Those things were sick! I got the OCLV 5200 instead.

More Lance revelations about the UCI complicity and a video of his face to face insincere apology session with Emma O'Reilly. (Worthy of note is someone practicing "Low Rider" by War on a saxophone in the background at :06 to:22).

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/othersports/article-2509002/LANCE-ARMSTRONG-WORLD-EXCLUSIVE-UCI-helped-cheat-way-Tour-France-titles.html

neilx said:

More Lance revelations about the UCI complicity and a video of his face to face insincere apology session with Emma O'Reilly. (Worthy of note is someone practicing "Low Rider" by War on a saxophone in the background at :06 to:22).

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/othersports/article-2509002/LANCE-ARMSTRONG-WORLD-EXCLUSIVE-UCI-helped-cheat-way-Tour-France-titles.html

Didn't Lance deny the UCI was involved in any cover-up only recently?  So when he told the truth on Oprah, he was lying, until now, where he's really telling the truth?  For a guy who boasted of his loyalty just a few weeks ago, he's showing very little.  

I'm going with McConaughey on this one...“He told a lie, he’s not a liar."  This is tantamount to saying, "he's a douche, he's not a douche".  Wait...I've just confused myself...damn you McConaughey and your witless wit....dang! I did it again...

twoyacks said:

I'm going with McConaughey on this one...“He told a lie, he’s not a liar."  This is tantamount to saying, "he's a douche, he's not a douche".  Wait...I've just confused myself...damn you McConaughey and your witless wit....dang! I did it again...

He didn't really say that did he?

He  most certainly did...and here he is...In all his shirtless splendor...

Wow.  And he seems to have found a wife who isn't satisfied with his meager earnings.  This will end well.

twoyacks said:

I'm going with McConaughey on this one...“He told a lie, he’s not a liar."  This is tantamount to saying, "he's a douche, he's not a douche".  Wait...I've just confused myself...damn you McConaughey and your witless wit....dang! I did it again...

I never thought any sentient being would fall for Lance's "one big lie" nonsense.  Guess I need to bring down my view of humanity a few notches.

mugwump said:

twoyacks said:

I'm going with McConaughey on this one...“He told a lie, he’s not a liar."  This is tantamount to saying, "he's a douche, he's not a douche".  Wait...I've just confused myself...damn you McConaughey and your witless wit....dang! I did it again...

I never thought any sentient being would fall for Lance's "one big lie" nonsense.  Guess I need to bring down my view of humanity a few notches.

I think it just highlights that some people genuinely don't understand the difference between right & wrong.  Call it a breakdown of the Judao-Christian ethos, or the pernicious consequences of the XBox generation... he really doesn't know that what he's saying is an absurd logical impossibility.

I don't think it's either.  I think Lance offered up a carefully-calibrated excuse his public relations team designed in the hopes that his fans would latch on.  The people who are repeating it are those who really really wanted to believe him and only needed the thinnest thread.  It's awful that anyone would repeat it, but it makes it easier to identify those in whom the koolaid still resides.

@Wump so we have two world views, one in which McConaughey walks talks and acts like a dope, and another in which he walks, talks and acts like a dope... and repeats dumbass stuff he heard.

I like this comment:

First test??? What does that say about PEDs in the previous years?? “According to the AAA decision, Meeker was nine time Masters National Champion and this was the “first anti-doping test sought from or provide by Respondent in his career.”

and of course this provocative statement:

If you race masters in SoCal and you don’t understand that drugs are rampant here, you are an imbecile. Too many riders turn in unbelievable performances not to understand that the sport is rife with drugs. However, unlike pro racing, which actually matters in some weird alternative universe, masters racing is like vanity book publishing.

Tilford had a good blog post on this guy. He's raced against him forever.

Jeff Owens said:

Tilford had a good blog post on this guy. He's raced against him forever.

link please...I've been to Tilford's blog and it seems like he's just linked to other dudes ranting about him. Well, there is one post, but it's just Tilford wondering aloud what's going on.

Marc,

That's hilarious.  I'm gonna spike a bunch of stuff I was supposedly taking to intentionally taint it and then say "look here! I guess it was rotten!"  What a pathetic loser.

this is a fun set of suggestions that wouldn't be too far off for NYC racing

why did I post this in professional dopers?  U know Y

Breaks your heart to hear about the Gov't trying to claw back someone's ill gotten gains...I mean the guy has already had to give up his private jet...HIS JET !!!  

from the interview

Keith Olberman's reaction to Lance's interview with Joe Lindsey:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuLB5Xi2qFg#t=88

A pretty appropriate rant.

I don't watch much tv so this might be unfair but Olberman seems like a simpleton.

Young Lance....allegedly.
http://velonews.competitor.com/2013/12/news/ex-pro-gaggioli-says-armstrong-paid-him-to-throw-1993-race_311116