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just to quickly add..., I completely agree and know all of this.

But to see Sharapova getting pushback from other players is slightly comforting.
eloy said:
Always thought that doping in Tennis is probably rampant, but seeing the amount of push Sharapova is getting on her comeback is interesting:
http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/tennis/sharapovas-1st-opponent-opposes-wild-cards-after-doping-ban/ar-BBAh7bc?ocid=UE13DHP
Here's Jim Courier in 1999: "American pro Jim Courier charged that steroids are far from the worst abuse in tennis. ""EPO is the problem,'' Courier told NEWSWEEK. ""I have pretty strong suspicions that guys are using it on the tour. I see guys who are out there week in and week out without taking rests. EPO can help you when it's the fifth set and you've been playing for four-and-a-half hours.'' Although the endurance-building effects of EPO last for about two weeks, its use can't be detected in urine at all or in blood for more than a day or so after the athlete stops taking it."

http://www.newsweek.com/real-scandal-169420

Allegedly the Pro Tennis Fed was pretty upset with Courier for this.  

the fact they don't even mention that Crosby was out for over half that season is a bit concerning
Unrepentant dopers take note http://www.velonews.com/2017/04/commentary/opinion-six-reasons-we-should-trust-valverde_436574
Listen to this garbage: "Would he risk doping? Who knows, but the fallout would be incalculable." LOLZ.
@JohnMalcolmson,

What's disturbing about this is VeloNews didn't need to run this story.

Eugenie Bouchard has no problem calling Sharapova a ‘cheater’

http://www.excellesports.com/news/tennis-wta-sharapova-bouchard-cheater/
Bouchard, now ranked 59th in the world, told TRT World, “She’s a cheater and I don’t think a cheater in any sport should be allowed to play that sport again.”


Obviously, not about cycling, and written in a particularly incendiary tone, still it just looks so crazy bad for Salazar. This has been a long time coming.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/19/sports/nike-oregon-project-alberto-salazar-dathan-ritzenhein.html

After learning about the procedure, however, Ritzenhein said to Salazar: “Is this legal? This doesn’t sound legal.”

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Welling’s medical records showed a nearly 11,000 percent increase in her muscle L-carnitine levels after the infusion. For the antidoping officials, this was evidence of illicit performance enhancement.
When pressed about the infusion during her interview with the agency, Welling began crying. “I don’t know if Alberto did something to me,” she said.

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eloy said:
Obviously, not about cycling, and written in a particularly incendiary tone, still it just looks so crazy bad for Salazar. This has been a long time coming.


As bad as it looks for Salazar, he's been associated with so much dodgy stuff for so long, I also think it reflects poorly on his corporate benefactor, Nike.  
Once a professional doper.
Now a masters doper.

https://pvcycling.wordpress.com/tag/kayle-leogrande-doping/

good riddance. what an impossible level of sad.
this guy, and his friend Papp, are the very definition of idiocy. also, jerks.
eloy said:
good riddance. what an impossible level of sad.
this guy, and his friend Papp, are the very definition of idiocy. also, jerks.
For those who aren't familiar with Leogrande, here's a pic he shared with (one of) his doping source(s), Papp  


Here he is crying for help...

So today I get shown a brandt-sorenssen ad in my instagram feed.

I consider leaving a comment like "cheater" or "dopers" but that feels too mean, so I leave 2 or 3 thumbs down emoticons.

Next time I check instagram, I get a ton of likes from him on my feed -- mostly on photos of Jess.

And then get a strava email, Thorfinn- Sassquatch is now following me, along with a bunch of kudos on my rides.

WTF.

Not even sure what's worst, that he completely missed my meaning or that he might be trying to send me a message.

Mostly, all of it is creepy as fuck.

What an ass. Definition of stupid jerk.


Well he must have gotten from you to me cause he's liking me now too. Like a virus.
ugh.
Well he must have gotten from you to me cause he's liking me now too. Like a virus.
He just "liked" one of the races I uploaded to Strava.
Creepy.
Creepy as fuck. Can't block him?
Jules said:
Creepy as fuck. Can't block him?
we can block him, but in situation like this, i have learned it is better to simply fully ignore the troll 
not doping, but definitely cheating. can't make stuff like this up:
http://www.bicycling.com/racing/ironman-703-syracuse-age-grouper-dqed-for-bike-tampering?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=sharebutton

eloy said:
That is the craziest thing yet.
Jules said:
eloy said:
That is the craziest thing yet.
http://forum.slowtwitch.com/forum/Slowtwitch_Forums_C1/Triathlon_Forum_F1/AG_Cheater_BUSTED_at_Syracuse_70.3!_P6340882/
https://www.lequipe.fr/Cyclisme-sur-route/Actualites/Andre-cardoso-trek-segafredo-controle-positif/814018

Bad news for the Trek team.
Oof. I'm glad they're checking
Stories like this always make me wonder.  Did he dope on his previous team and wasn't caught, or did he do this to pick up his game to make the Tour team?

mugwump said:
Stories like this always make me wonder.  Did he dope on his previous team and wasn't caught, or did he do this to pick up his game to make the Tour team?

As much as they always protest, the "it was only just this time" always rings hollow with me. Convince me this rider got to the world stage, then made the short list for the tour team THEN decided to gamble it all with EPO.

I'm not buying it. Testing is rare and ineffective. Either he screwed up or got unlucky, or both.
Gaimon on Cardoso...
http://philthethrill.net/thoughts-on-andre-cardosos-positive-test/

It's interesting how he breaks this down to a kind of desperation to risk it all when the writing is on the wall.

It's so odd that we have people like Floyd Landis treated like and absolute pariah to this very day, and then you have this collective amnesia with Puerto dopers like Mancebo still hitting payday—the whole thing is so grossly fucked up. 
Gaimon on Cardoso...
http://philthethrill.net/thoughts-on-andre-cardosos-positive-test/

It's interesting how he breaks this down to a kind of desperation to risk it all when the writing is on the wall.

It's so odd that we have people like Floyd Landis treated like and absolute pariah to this very day, and then you have this collective amnesia with Puerto dopers like Mancebo still hitting payday—the whole thing is so grossly fucked up. 
I have less & less respect for Gaimon as a professional. The "he didn't act like *I* would have acted" is a classic bit of misogyny that is being transposed here.
@Jules I think he has good points. Sure he shouldn't judge and he's on the high horse, but his point about the carefully crafted press releases while requesting b-samples is right on. The innocent tend to be more outraged/WTF/how did this happen.

“I’ve seen firsthand through my career the awful effects that performance enhancing drugs have had on our sport, and I would never want to be a part of that. I’ve always tried to be a constructive influence in the peloton and on young, aspiring cyclists. It is my great hope that the B sample will come back as negative and clear me of any wrongdoing.

“Until then, I hope that those who know me, trust me when I say that I’m innocent, and that my colleagues and cycling fans everywhere don’t judge me too quickly during this difficult time.”

Also, "misogyny" is prejudice against women no?  

@JohnMalcolmson

(Let me preface this by saying I think the odds are very high he cheated.)

The claim that women don't react like men would "expect they would" has been unfortunately used against women when they report rape. I would have fought harder, I would have reported it sooner, I would not have bene able to go to work the next day, etc.

As for the carefully crafted press release - that could be read either way. On the one hand, read it like he doesn't care and had someone write something he hopes is bulletproof. On the other hand, he's a much more successful professional than Phil. He has a good agent, his suitcase is never messy, and I bet he has had media training. He's not an idiot and he knows his career is on the line. He (unlike Phil or Tommy D) has the discipline NOT to go on a drunken twitter rant and instead calls his agent/lawyer and says "I've got to say something!" and get some help. That's not proof he doped, it's proof he has self control, and asked for advice.

I can't abide a world where someone who has the presence of mind to call for help in the midst of a crisis is somehow worse for it.
The innocent tend to be more outraged/WTF/how did this happen.
 
They do?  

I've noticed that the chronically guilty also seem to take the outrage to 11.  Reference Lance Armstrong if you're not familiar.