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Professional Dopers

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Adam said:
I despise masters racing for multiple reasons, doping isn't even the main one.  Take a look see here- a guy who must be at or around 60 in one of the masters fields at the bike race I did this weekend.

http://www.taliherzkaphoto.com/p251331781/h7b2164a5#h7b2164a5




Looks like someone had "low T" and supersized his script
@Jules- already did.  Either check twitter or in the "articles in print" board on here.
so the UCI is contacting makers of bike motors to dodge investigation by French police.

http://cyclingtips.com/2016/06/hidden-motors-uci-technical-manager-accused-of-alerting-others-to-police-operations/

Explains why hes been "flying" this year

The Wanty Groupe Gobert team stopped Enrico Gasparotto and Björn Thurau from starting the final stage of the Criterium du Dauphine on Sunday after reports tests carried out on behalf of the Movement for a Credible Cycling (MPCC) association revealed they had low cortisol levels.
I didn't realize Oscar Sevilla was still racing.

he's not only racing but just won the prologue of the Tour of Colombia.

12:02 minutes for an 11.5km time trial

http://cyclingtips.com/2016/06/2016-vuelta-a-colombia-stage-1-itt-results/

Local boy Kyle Murphy was 41 seconds behind.

oh.....Mosey...say it ain't so.....
http://velonews.competitor.com/2016/06/news/court-releases-puerto-blood-evidence-absolves-fuentes_409978

Hmmm, Tour in a few weeks time? Check? New Bike Tech polemic in flight? Check. Team(s) folding and transfer stories stoked? Check. Teasing the "big reveal" from Puerto done yet? Nope! Wait, got it now, Check.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/16/sports/olympics/world-anti-doping-agency-russia-cheating.html?_r=0

Mancebo has enough bags to fill two more Mancebos.

Mancebo has enough bags to fill two more Mancebos.
I think about the only two I haven't seen associated with Puerto before is Dekker and Sanchez.  I thought Dekker got his blood elsewhere and Sanchez is hardly a surprise. 
Didn't Rabobank or Blanco suspend Sanchez based on links 
Jules said:
Who's taking bets that the Russians will not be at this Olympics?
You think anyone at the IOC has a hankering for a polonium enema?
Looks like Seb Coe is willing to risk one.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/jun/17/russia-rio-olympics-ban-doping-iaaf-sebastian-coe

http://www.cyclingnews.com/races/route-du-sud-la-depeche-du-midi-2016/stage-3/results

P----lease. You kidding me?!? Dude is a full on fucking doper. Unbelievable. Was in a 100km break yesterday then crushes actual TT specialists the day after. Read the story, he even says that he hasn't even bothered with TT training. He weighs 118lb...

I mean, I know they all cheat but this is just too absurd.


Didn't Rabobank or Blanco suspend Sanchez based on links 
Good memory

http://www.dopeology.org/people/Luis-León_Sánchez/
Adam said:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/races/route-du-sud-la-depeche-du-midi-2016/stage-3/results

P----lease. You kidding me?!? Dude is a full on fucking doper. Unbelievable. Was in a 100km break yesterday then crushes actual TT specialists the day after. Read the story, he even says that he hasn't even bothered with TT training. He weighs 118lb...

I mean, I know they all cheat but this is just too absurd.


Quintana and Inausti are clean as a whistle, they're just training in an A330 with the windows down.  
Come on , it's not like Columbia has any drug history 
Come on , it's not like Columbia has any drug history 
You guys are such cynics. You'd think the sport was riddled with dopers and cheats... oh wait. Nevermind.
https://www.facebook.com/BrandsRacingTeam/photos/a.650028108465817.1073741831.456707301131233/777091439092816/?type=3&theater
http://www.usada.org/u-s-cyclist-pineda-receives-suspension-from-u-s-anti-doping-agency-for-positive-drug-test/
any comments???  JP???
twoyacks said:

     Back when he got popped, he claimed it was the result of a tainted nutritional supplement.  There were a number of dopers claiming the same at the time.  As a friend said, 'the white girl (Amber Neben) cries and gets six months.  the white guy (Scott Moninger) lawyers up and gets a year.  the brown guy (Pineda) can't afford a lawyer and his career ends.'

He was totally out of bike racing until 2014 I believe.  He broke his collarbone less than two months after returning to racing.  At first, I thought it was both to race with his brother (Mynor) and ride with his kid.  But his son had a bad crash and that ended his involvement.  Juan has kept at it.  

If you look at the results, he's been up at the front when it comes to sprinting.  Occasionally, he gets into breaks, but it's rare.  He's been at the front in masters racing for the past two years.  

your thoughts?
My thoughts are percolating....I'll get to you
mugwump said:
, 'the white girl (Amber Neben) cries and gets six months.  the white guy (Scott Moninger) lawyers up and gets a year.  the brown guy (Pineda) can't afford a lawyer and his career ends.'
The wildly inconsistent and opaque actions of the governing bodies vex me far more than the dopers, to be honest. 
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/25/sports/olympics/rio-drug-testing-lab-is-suspended-by-wada.html?
Oh my god. He DID NOT just go with "we've been tested more than anyone else...?"

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/brailsford-defends-froome-after-question-about-mechanical-doping/
Sky marginal gains = act just like US Postal in every way shape or form.
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/aug/02/lizzie-armistead-olympic-reprieve-questioned-fellow-athletes

"The Canadian three-time former Olympian cross-country mountain biker Geoff Kabush added: “1st test understandable but I’d be hyper aware about missing 2nd. If I missed 2nd there is no chance I’d miss 3rd??? So many questions. How is World Champ suspended for 3 weeks and no one knows? Why did British Cycling fund appeal?”

Rooting for Vos/Netherlands at Rio, climbs are 8km but under 6%. Going to be a beautiful race, route includes Copacabana! 
Kabush is right to point out those things.  Worse is that she was suspended for three weeks without public notice.  Seems to me that UKAD might well have been colluding with British Cycling.

I have no idea of Armistead is clean or not, but the actions of all parties deserve much closer scrutiny.
mugwump said:
Kabush is right to point out those things.  Worse is that she was suspended for three weeks without public notice.  Seems to me that UKAD might well have been colluding with British Cycling.

I have no idea of Armistead is clean or not, but the actions of all parties deserve much closer scrutiny.
I'd go further (farther?) and say the actions of British Cycling, UKAD and the athlete all reek of collusion and opacity.

What's amazing surprising to me is that  after having seen this drama unfold so many times before British Cycling is acting smarter about this.

There are only two outcomes that I see:

1) she wins in RIO and somebody eventually narcs
2) she loses in RIO and British Cycling dumps her or she pens the "it wasn't worth it" bio.
I want to believe her, but find it so utterly impossible.


Seems like her press team learned some lessons on deflecting criticism from Trump.