Sep 16, 2014 at 03:44 PM
In Print: Articles of Interest
Sep 18, 2014 at 08:35 PM
Who's laughing now Jules?
Sep 18, 2014 at 08:36 PM
Sep 18, 2014 at 08:54 PM
Hmmmm
Sep 19, 2014 at 12:40 AM
This may have repercussions
Sep 19, 2014 at 12:48 AM
Such a poorly written article. The bias is overwhelming. So Post of them.
Sep 19, 2014 at 12:53 AM
http://www.usacycling.org/results/?compid=432071twoyacks said:This may have repercussions
Same guy?
Sep 19, 2014 at 01:08 AM
Oh please god let the times mention "strava"...
On Sep 18, 2014 8:53 PM, "Jules"
On Sep 18, 2014 8:53 PM, "Jules"
Sep 19, 2014 at 01:27 AM
Definitely the worst news we've had in a while.
Sep 19, 2014 at 01:30 AM
I can't ride in the driving lanes? What if it's blocked by pedestrians "who think they have entitlement"? What if the bike lane is encroached by drivers "who think they have entitlement"?twoyacks said:This may have repercussions
so confusing.
Sep 19, 2014 at 01:45 AM
Everyone's entitled. Battle Royale!!!
But still..... Aerobars
On Sep 18, 2014 9:30 PM, "mugwump" <
But still..... Aerobars
On Sep 18, 2014 9:30 PM, "mugwump" <
Sep 19, 2014 at 03:36 AM
Shit, that was the accident that blocked off the section of the park tonight. I recognize the bike the police had leaning on a cruiser. Passing by, I saw the aero bars and figured it was an asshole looking for a Strava record. (No offense to our badass speed team who would never ride like a bunch of jackasses.)
Sep 19, 2014 at 12:36 PM
I love it that that NYPD idiot botched his effort to use bourgie vocabulary like "entitled." He should stick to his wheelhouse slurs like "perp" and "bozo."
Sep 22, 2014 at 04:22 AM
I know Andrea Peyser is a terrible columnist and worse writer. All the same,
"The bicycle menaces must be stopped.
"It’s already too late."Chances are, if you’ve spent time in New York City, you’ve experienced more than one terrifying near-collision with these speed freaks. That is, if you haven’t been hit with the force of a sledgehammer on methamphetamines."Who is editing her?
Worse, possibly is she refers to cyclists as "entitled" and then shares this thought, "Outmatched and outgunned by a tyrant on tires, the 59-year-old mom from Fairfield Conn., wife of a CBS TV executive, was, like millions of oblivious pedestrians, walking without a care through Central Park Thursday afternoon."
Millions of pedestrians walking through Central Park Thursday afternoon? How is it that an "oblivious" pedestrian who wasn't even at an intersection when she was hit, isn't herself entitled and a tyrant for thinking the world should stop for her to wander where she wants when she wants.
Sep 22, 2014 at 01:18 PM
^If you let the Post rile you up you haven't got a chance. Their entire business model is printing outrageous things.
I keep looking for statistics on miles travelled vs injury/fatalities of bikes vs cars but haven't found anything good yet.
DOT has some lame "bikes counted" stats but nobody seems to know how many miles are travelled. I guess unlike cars you can't just look at how much gas was sold in a zip code and extrapolate...
Sep 22, 2014 at 01:18 PM
^maybe muffins?
Sep 22, 2014 at 02:00 PM
And the woman dies..
EDIT: the link im attaching isn't attaching. But I saw on nydailynews.com
Sep 22, 2014 at 02:02 PM
Usa! Usa! .....wait....wait....this isn't that movie with Jean Claude van
damme is it.....
On Sep 22, 2014 10:00 AM, "Phillip Maronilla" <
damme is it.....
On Sep 22, 2014 10:00 AM, "Phillip Maronilla" <
Sep 22, 2014 at 02:17 PM
Jules,
The stats in the link below are old. But I wouldn't look at miles driven. I'd look at time or activity hours or something of that sort.
Here is another way to frame
Another that reports cycling is nearly twice as safe as driving--.26 deaths per million hours .47 deaths per million hours of driving. In the same report, I found this
"Note that bicycling, with only 1 in 4147 chance of causing death has the best odds listed." better than beind a pedestrian 1 in 623, better than being a car occupant 1 in 272
cyclists suffer only "109 fatalities per billion kilometers ridden, compared to 362 fatalities per billion kilometers" walked.
Sep 22, 2014 at 02:18 PM
Jules,
I know they're going for outrage. But the outrage is so sloppy and so stupid that they undermine their mission.
Sep 22, 2014 at 02:28 PM
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Sep 22, 2014 at 02:38 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/19/nyregion/more-traffic-fatalities-in-new-york-city-in-2012.html?_r=0Gwynna Smith said:I found car crash stats from 2012 and again from July 2014. Both show an avg of one pedestrian or cyclist killed (not counting injured) by a motor vehicle every two and a half days in NYC. A man was killed by a motor vehicle on the same day as this incident (and several were killed in the days before and after).We have GOT to change this conversation, and get the focus where it belongs.(we = cyclists, conversation = with society at large/non-cyclists)
270 were killed by cars. A cyclist kills a person in NYC approximately once every five years.
As a point of comparison, 194 people were murdered with guns in NYC last year.
Sep 22, 2014 at 02:43 PM
Please send this information to the newspaper editors and put them in the comment sections for the articles. I suggest you don't say anything about being a cyclist, as that will undermine your position. The numbers speak for themselves.
Sep 22, 2014 at 02:44 PM
The Post writes about how the cyclist was in the wrong, quoting the park rule on the centraparknyc website:
"Pedestrians have the right of way at all times. At crosswalks, cyclists must slow down, yield to pedestrians and then proceed cautiously."
If state laws trump park rule, it's state law to obey walk signals, just as it is for cyclists to yield at zebra crossings and stop at red lights. The challenge is a pedestrian is "entitled" by park rule to be crossing against the light, but how can you expect all park users coming from all around the country/world to know the nuances of park rules found on a park website and a few signs (signs not designed for cyclists to read)? Most cyclists are 99.9% likely to ride into the park without encountering any of the rules, then are confronted by local "rule entitled" pedestrians or oblivious tourists cutting them off when they have a green light — pedestrians are perceived to be jaywalking, thus the "get out of the way!" and the near misses.
The rules function only if everyone knows what the rules are, it's an information design/UX problem currently being communicated only when there's death/maiming via shit reporting.
Sep 22, 2014 at 03:02 PM
I don't see how park rules, which are pretty much only enumerated on the CP Conservancy site, can possibly trump city or state laws for roads. Park police aren't giving the tickets, city police are, so even enforcement demonstrates whose rules count.JohnMalcolmson said:The Post writes about how the cyclist was in the wrong, quoting the park rule on the centraparknyc website:"Pedestrians have the right of way at all times. At crosswalks, cyclists must slow down, yield to pedestrians and then proceed cautiously."If state laws trump park rule, it's state law to obey walk signals, just as it is for cyclists to yield at zebra crossings and stop at red lights. The challenge is a pedestrian is "entitled" by park rule to be crossing against the light, but how can you expect all park users coming from all around the country/world to know the nuances of park rules found on a park website and a few signs (signs not designed for cyclists to read)? Most cyclists are 99.9% likely to ride into the park without encountering any of the rules, then are confronted by local "rule entitled" pedestrians or oblivious tourists cutting them off when they have a green light — pedestrians are perceived to be jaywalking, thus the "get out of the way!" and the near misses.The rules function only if everyone knows what the rules are, it's an information design/UX problem currently being communicated only when there's death/maiming via shit reporting.
Not that Peyser or the Post gives a shit.
Sep 22, 2014 at 03:09 PM
Death's per year/day aren't as relevant to me as the deaths per hour spent doing the activity. There are only a few deaths per year climbing Everest but that doesn't mean it isn't deadly as shit.Gwynna Smith said:I found car crash stats from 2012 and again from July 2014. Both show an avg of one pedestrian or cyclist killed (not counting injured) by a motor vehicle every two and a half days in NYC. A man was killed by a motor vehicle on the same day as this incident (and several were killed in the days before and after).We have GOT to change this conversation, and get the focus where it belongs.(we = cyclists, conversation = with society at large/non-cyclists)
But #hugs 'cause I totes agree this public discussion is completely insano.
Sep 22, 2014 at 03:20 PM
Sep 22, 2014 at 03:45 PM
Sep 22, 2014 at 03:57 PM
Here's the thing. Park law seems roughly equivalent to state law in that
there is a pecking order of moving things a la paper rock scissors.
Eg....car beats bike, bike beats person. So yes common sense dictates that
the more powerful or rapidly moving conveyance yields to the lesser.
I also seem to recall that bikes are motor vehicles under nycdot law. But
I may be wrong on that someone cue a lawyer.
But here's the thing.
Even if the above paragraphs are me talking straight outta my ass, the
problem is the general lay person believes it.
I mean why shouldn't a bike capable of going 30mph yield to a little old
lady in a cross walk.
Let's adjust the situation. If one of your kids (god forbid) ran out
between two parked cars and was struck by a taxi obeying all the traffic
laws people would be pissed.
Despite that child having right of way over a car.
Right of way is a function of critical mass.
People do really stupid shit all the time.
Accidents happen.
The fact that this guy was strava ing along ain't gonna help our case.
That just boosts the odds of failure drastically.
Myles rule of life #7 - " life is completely about boosting the odds of
success in your favour".
On Sep 22, 2014 11:45 AM, "mugwump" <
there is a pecking order of moving things a la paper rock scissors.
Eg....car beats bike, bike beats person. So yes common sense dictates that
the more powerful or rapidly moving conveyance yields to the lesser.
I also seem to recall that bikes are motor vehicles under nycdot law. But
I may be wrong on that someone cue a lawyer.
But here's the thing.
Even if the above paragraphs are me talking straight outta my ass, the
problem is the general lay person believes it.
I mean why shouldn't a bike capable of going 30mph yield to a little old
lady in a cross walk.
Let's adjust the situation. If one of your kids (god forbid) ran out
between two parked cars and was struck by a taxi obeying all the traffic
laws people would be pissed.
Despite that child having right of way over a car.
Right of way is a function of critical mass.
People do really stupid shit all the time.
Accidents happen.
The fact that this guy was strava ing along ain't gonna help our case.
That just boosts the odds of failure drastically.
Myles rule of life #7 - " life is completely about boosting the odds of
success in your favour".
On Sep 22, 2014 11:45 AM, "mugwump" <
Sep 24, 2014 at 06:04 PM
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/phinney-considers-hour-record-attempt-comeback
The velodrome Voigt used to break the record was built at least partially with BMC money and is across the street from their headquarters. I can see Phinney going for it this winter.