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Citi Bike

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I plopped down the cash for the citi bike annual membership. My fob arrived yesterday and I had a series of meetings in Manhattan & Brooklyn today. I would have taken 4 subway trips ($10 worth of MTA mess), or ride my bike all over and have to deal with locking it up in several locations, or take one of the citi bike that are down the street from my building. 

Those things are tanks. 45lbs of steel and super thick rubber. These things are designed to be ridden hard and need very little repair. The 3 speed gear ratio is strangely spaced, I would describe them as glacial, pokey and cruisy. These things are not for going any faster than an easy cruise. They're stable and not too sluggish in their responsiveness, I was able to maneuver around traffic quite effectively, just not at any thing like a rapid pace. 

The stations are with lots of spots, but they're not quite the right density. Maybe if they were 3-5 blocks away from each other rather than 10, but only 10-15 docks rather than 30 docks apiece, this would be super-easy no-brainer, but you have to plan your route and your destination carefully (rather than just riding from A to B then finding a station). I had one station that wouldn't release any bikes to me. I called it in, and then walked the 6 blocks to my next meeting.  

I also spent more than 20 minutes today explaining how the system works to total strangers who came up to me with questions. Including tourists from Germany who were happy to see it here. I think there is a ton of curiosity and lots of interest. 

The first week with only 11K users is a good "soft launch" but what is clear is that there are more than enough bikes for the launch users, and going from the launch users to ~8M potential users is going to be steep step in usage. I bet less than half the bikes have been used, so far. Many bikes at the station on my corner haven't moved since being installed on Sunday.    
The race is on...:

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2013/05/road-test-a-citi-bike-can-top-27-mph.html
"Since it was too hot to run Danny out at maximum effort for a full 30 minutes..."  sounds like Danny needs some Wednesday TT action with the Kissena boys in Prospect Park.....
Citi biker down...

http://gothamist.com/2013/05/31/citi_bike_rider_hospitalized_after.php
Jules said:
it's gotta take a block or 2 for those tanks to come to a complete stop.  

love the comments section

love the comments section

They should sell tickets
and now, the backlash
http://observer.com/2013/05/just-buy-a-bike/

http://gawker.com/old-addled-wsj-board-member-flips-out-over-nycs-bike-510846088

like the youtube video of the rant someone posted here (the psychedelic rabbi? repeatedly drops the F bomb... cant find it) its all about fascism... or socialism. or some ism too terrible to contemplate arguing about.



That wsj video really raised the bar on batshit crazy. I don't think the Post can even top that
@danreiners - do the bikes have timers on them? Or do you have to rely on your watch to figure out how much allotted time is left?
@danreiners - do the bikes have timers on them? Or do you have to rely on your watch to figure out how much allotted time is left?
it's up to you.  conveniently, the CitiBike app for iPhone/android includes a timer you can set to can remind yourself when there are 5, 10 etc..minutes left on your "checkout".
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http://gawker.com/citi-bike-is-a-nazi-muslim-plan-to-firebomb-new-york-ci-511489930

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I guess it's shark jumping season
i rode my first citi bike yesterday.  very comfortable and it feels solid as a rock.  racing on one of those bad boys would be an exercise in heavy-equipment handling, though.  i genuinely fear for any pedestrians that get hit by one.

i realized at the point of purchase that it costs $10 for a 24-rental.  the annual membership is only $90, so if you plan on using one more than a handful of times, i'd definitely recommend the annual subscription. 
I signed up for the annual just to support the program.  I'm hoping that if this city is overrun with people on bikes, the tide against cyclists might turn, and drivers (most) might learn to just accept the fact that we are also entitled to be on the roads and respect that.  I'm hoping anyway...

And for $90, its a cheap way to help the cause.
I rode one into work today. Very pleasurable. Not a fan of the fat saddle, though. The ride took me about 5 minutes longer than it usually does on my beater.
jfogden said:
Holy batshit crazy, Batman!
oh man... the face and voice of "holy batshit crazy"

http://live.wsj.com/video/opinion-death-by-bicycle/C6D8BBCE-B405-4D3C-A381-4CA50BDD8D4D.html#!C6D8BBCE-B405-4D3C-A381-4CA50BDD8D4D


that woman doesn't need citibike to get around, she just floats around on a cloud of her own self-righteousness.  what a wretch
ah YES...BIG WHEEL and their union thugs

http://www.hulu.com/watch/498676


so the details of the "software" issues that delayed the start are coming out. Alta they outfit that is running CitiBike, had a falling out with their longtime software partner who did the software for the DC, Boston and other systems. SOOO, they went out and got a new software vendor, who just tried to reproduce the previous software. Of course it wasn't fully bug tested, and there are lots of stations that are full of bikes and are not showing that they've been returned.

On Saturday, I dropped off a bike at one location, and got the green light, that I had successfully returned the bike. I tried to get a bike out of the same location about 90 minutes later and it wouldn't release a single bike. The app said that the station had 7 bikes and 28 available spots (but all 35 spots were full of bikes). I tried another station several blocks away, and it wouldn't release any bikes for me either. I called the 800 number, and proceeded to walk back. After 20 minutes on hold and getting back to my apartment, I heard that the system hadn't registered the returned bike and the meter had started running on charges. Customer service invalidated the charges and said they would look into the station. When I saw the station again the next day, it was still full and the app was showing the same problems.

It seems like the system isn't updating at a realtime basis and there are some communication between stations and central.
so WSJ editorial board member and pulitzer prize winner Dorothy Rabinowitz is out to prove that crazy is not just a one-off thing for her.  http://on.wsj.com/19PAiDp
Finally got to ride one today; the first Kiosk had gone full Colonel Kurtz so I called support and got a human instantly - the human could do nothing and apparently didn't even have a map with which to suggest a better kiosk... I walked to a second Kiosk where I got a bike with no trouble.

Rode it to work where the rack was FULL.  Doh.  Rode around a bit and found an empty rack, walked back to work.

Probably took 2x the total walking time when all was said & done.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/12/nyregion/two-weeks-in-riders-and-errors-for-bike-share-effort.html?hp
I experienced my first glitch this morning. The State St. rack was inop. Got one nearby, though, and was back in business. Probably took a five or six minute hit. Overall, I'm still a big fan.
First "real" trip report:

Tribeca to Midtown via the West Side Bike Path.  Lessons learned:

1) way too hot for a suit - I'm SOAKED in sweat and I don't think I ever pushed north of 150 watts - afternoon meetins are going to be... interesting
2) dress shoes & platform pedals are a bad combo
3) the dismount from a fully un-slammed seatpost is absurdly precarious
4) those things are incredibly big, slow & basically drive like pigs.  I feel much safer on one of my bikes
5) crazy convenient to grab a bike & stow a bike... although it is looking a little like the stowing is going to be bigger scarcity than grabbing - I got the last free slot when I arrived.

Overall still a fan, but I have to re-calibrate my planned use. 
Fred Wilson loves it

http://www.avc.com/a_vc/2013/05/citibike.html
@Jules

I think a big part of route planning is checking the available spots in the closest stations. I have made that part of my pre-flight check with the citibike.

I would agree a suit and any bike in this weather is too hot.

They're supposed to be cruisers, so ride accordingly. You will go slower and you will have to ride accordingly.
@Jules

I think a big part of route planning is checking the available spots in the closest stations. I have made that part of my pre-flight check with the citibike.

I would agree a suit and any bike in this weather is too hot.

They're supposed to be cruisers, so ride accordingly. You will go slower and you will have to ride accordingly.
Every ride is a race, Dan.  EVERY RIDE!!!
Ok Jules if every ride is a race, then lets throw down!

So when is the inaugral KCC CitiBike race? I suggest we pick a station closest to the park. All take our bikes out and do two laps of Prospect park, and then return the bikes to the station. That should be less than 30 minutes for the folks who are not annual members. This should to be an evening race, and it has to be in full kit (with helmet). Totally non-sanctioned but all part of the fun.

Maybe a Wednesday evening next week?

Whatya say gents?

Also those of you with GoPros, bring along, we want this recorded for posterity.
i still like the idea of 5-man team relay race through the city, but this would be fun, too.  

only caveat is - as appealing as it sounds from a comedy perspective, i don't think we should do this in kits.....someone busts up a bike, crashes, whatever.....not good for the club.

but HELL YES on the GoPros.....
Bad news, Dan: There are no stations close enough to the park to make this a reality. Currently, there's nothing below Atlantic, making the 30 minute limit a bigger factor.

http://citibikenyc.com/stations