Sep 12, 2017 at 01:18 PM
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Sep 12, 2017 at 04:22 PM
@TimCusick - apologies if this exists somewhere in the forum that I am unaware.
Do you have anything you could provide in the way of off season strength training and gym work for cyclists? I started going to the track at the end of the season and would like to maximize by efforts in that discipline next season. Thanks.
Do you have anything you could provide in the way of off season strength training and gym work for cyclists? I started going to the track at the end of the season and would like to maximize by efforts in that discipline next season. Thanks.
Sep 12, 2017 at 06:03 PM
Greg,
I do, the plan that will be posted on Oct 2nd will contain a functional strength program and a strength resistance program. I will schedule the workouts in or you can use the supplied programs to schedule at your convenience.
I do, the plan that will be posted on Oct 2nd will contain a functional strength program and a strength resistance program. I will schedule the workouts in or you can use the supplied programs to schedule at your convenience.
Sep 12, 2017 at 06:18 PM
Thanks Tim!TimCusick said:Greg,
I do, the plan that will be posted on Oct 2nd will contain a functional strength program and a strength resistance program. I will schedule the workouts in or you can use the supplied programs to schedule at your convenience.
Sep 12, 2017 at 08:12 PM
@GregStreiff if you scroll back to the fall/winter of 2016 in this forum you should find an attachment with Tim's functional strength workouts. Good stuff
Sep 18, 2017 at 05:40 PM
@TimCusick - you may already be on top of this (and I know Monday is a rest day), but my CX plan is empty starting today. I've been finding the repeated 2 and 3 min FRC efforts to be helpful.
Thanks
Thanks
Sep 18, 2017 at 05:40 PM
@TimCusick - you may already be on top of this (and I know Monday is a rest day), but my CX plan is empty starting today. I've been finding the repeated 2 and 3 min FRC efforts to be helpful.
Thanks
Thanks
Sep 18, 2017 at 05:43 PM
I'm on the same boat as Patrick.
Sep 18, 2017 at 08:39 PM
I will post tonight. Here is where it gets hard as race season underway. Posting a general race schedule style plan...
Sep 18, 2017 at 09:41 PM
@TimCusick - I think we had a discussion on the forum last year where you indicated that once the CX race season is in full swing you don't focus on cycles (e.g. Several weeks of ftp - are these called meso cycles?) as much as priming all the necessary systems on a regular basis while maintaining freshness. I'm paraphrasing, but does that sound right?
I am asking because I was wondering whether similar to the multiple FRC efforts over the past few weeks if you think there is a benefit to focusing on a specific limiter over several days within a week as opposed to having a "mix" of systems being targeted during the week. I was wondering if this would be a good thing to do during weeks that I know I won't be racing.
If I had to guess, you'll say that both approaches are likely to have a benefit. Is one likely to have more benefit than the other or does this depend on the individual?
I am asking because I was wondering whether similar to the multiple FRC efforts over the past few weeks if you think there is a benefit to focusing on a specific limiter over several days within a week as opposed to having a "mix" of systems being targeted during the week. I was wondering if this would be a good thing to do during weeks that I know I won't be racing.
If I had to guess, you'll say that both approaches are likely to have a benefit. Is one likely to have more benefit than the other or does this depend on the individual?
Sep 18, 2017 at 09:51 PM
I kinda agree with Patrick, the focus on 2 and 3 minutes efforts had an effect for sure, especially at the start. So wonder if focusing on another limiter could have similar positive results. But might be too dependent on the individual, unsurprisingly, I feel my endurance/fitness dropped a little bit.
A general race plan could be good. the right mix of tempo, 15 seconds micros, and 30/30/30/30s definitely helped last season.
A general race plan could be good. the right mix of tempo, 15 seconds micros, and 30/30/30/30s definitely helped last season.
Sep 18, 2017 at 10:14 PM
You are pointing out why writing a "general" plan for CX is so hard. There are two key things that create challenge. First, is your specific needs. Without in-depth assessment, I have no idea what that is and if I did, would require a specific training regime. Second is the race schedule. The schedule has a massive effect on training but some people race once every two or three weeks, some, 2x a week.
For CX the event demands are really a blend of FRC/AWC and FTP. I typically use the final tune to pull FTP back up as season gets into full swing. This might seem "counter-intuitive" but think about how you "don't win" in CX. You make the break or separation last in that group for 12-16 minutes of hard up and down effort then fade off. Too many riders look at that and say I need more "repeat ability" but if you look deeper at the power numbers, your average will be between 101%-110% of FTP....simple put, you popped as all the FRC/AWC work can lower your FTP. The FRC effort have built your "anaerobic battery" now need a final aerobic / lactate push (driven by over/under or micro formats) to get in final prep.
Will post my best solution in a bit....
For CX the event demands are really a blend of FRC/AWC and FTP. I typically use the final tune to pull FTP back up as season gets into full swing. This might seem "counter-intuitive" but think about how you "don't win" in CX. You make the break or separation last in that group for 12-16 minutes of hard up and down effort then fade off. Too many riders look at that and say I need more "repeat ability" but if you look deeper at the power numbers, your average will be between 101%-110% of FTP....simple put, you popped as all the FRC/AWC work can lower your FTP. The FRC effort have built your "anaerobic battery" now need a final aerobic / lactate push (driven by over/under or micro formats) to get in final prep.
Will post my best solution in a bit....
Sep 18, 2017 at 10:18 PM
If you guys could go in an put schedule in, can tweak the general plan a touch
Sep 19, 2017 at 01:53 AM
Let me know if you post your schedule. I have plan ready to load. Will load at 9:00am if don't see any schedules....
Sep 19, 2017 at 01:58 AM
To clarify - you'd like us to post our race schedule within TP for next 3 months, is that right?
Sep 19, 2017 at 02:34 AM
@TimCusick
Tim, I have my race schedule loaded.
Tim, I have my race schedule loaded.
Sep 19, 2017 at 12:23 PM
OK, I posted and tweaked. Need to work out a better solution as takes too much time.
Sep 19, 2017 at 01:08 PM
Thanks so very much, Tim!
Sep 24, 2017 at 03:48 PM
When Tim throws a kitchen sink at you, and you need a cheat sheet as big as your top tube.




Sep 24, 2017 at 06:38 PM
Where are the safe grounds in BK for the 30/30/30/30 pain at??
Oct 01, 2017 at 09:37 PM
Hello All!
Hope everyone had a great weekend! Weather was a tad cooler then earlier this week, nice to be out for a ride!
I posted the 4 week transition plan yesterday. Transition is a phase that many cyclists do not enjoy but adding some functional strength and cross training really helps you to prepare to train "harder" in later phases of the periodized plan. You can mix things up this cycle, does not need to be "day-by-day" rigid. Also, if you already doing some yoga or a functional strength or strength resistance program you like, keep using it. I would also add, I put "uphill" hiking as an option, in hindsight, should have put "stairs" as most on this list will have easier access to flights of stairs then uphill hiking so can switch.
For the cycling, great period to focus on cadence work. The cadence work can help build efficiency and this time of year is perfect for some focus in this area.
Let me know if questions.
Hope everyone had a great weekend! Weather was a tad cooler then earlier this week, nice to be out for a ride!
I posted the 4 week transition plan yesterday. Transition is a phase that many cyclists do not enjoy but adding some functional strength and cross training really helps you to prepare to train "harder" in later phases of the periodized plan. You can mix things up this cycle, does not need to be "day-by-day" rigid. Also, if you already doing some yoga or a functional strength or strength resistance program you like, keep using it. I would also add, I put "uphill" hiking as an option, in hindsight, should have put "stairs" as most on this list will have easier access to flights of stairs then uphill hiking so can switch.
For the cycling, great period to focus on cadence work. The cadence work can help build efficiency and this time of year is perfect for some focus in this area.
Let me know if questions.
Oct 17, 2017 at 03:54 PM
@TimCusick
Hi Tim, I don’t have a CX training plan loaded for the upcoming weeks. Regards.
Hi Tim, I don’t have a CX training plan loaded for the upcoming weeks. Regards.
Oct 17, 2017 at 11:04 PM
Thierry,
Like I posted last time I pushed up CX plans was only going to write to you are in season as it is so hard to write plans once in season. My goal was to make the current plan the past one. That being said, I am working on some CX stuff and will post one more full cycle.
The main challenge with cross is the races, when, how many, how they fit.
Will push them up in the morning.
Tim Cusick
TrainingPeaks WKO4 Product Leader
717.515.5382 / tim@wko4.com
Like I posted last time I pushed up CX plans was only going to write to you are in season as it is so hard to write plans once in season. My goal was to make the current plan the past one. That being said, I am working on some CX stuff and will post one more full cycle.
The main challenge with cross is the races, when, how many, how they fit.
Will push them up in the morning.
Tim Cusick
TrainingPeaks WKO4 Product Leader
717.515.5382 / tim@wko4.com
Oct 18, 2017 at 02:12 PM
All CXer's,
I wrote a new 4 week plan as the final 4 weeks of the season. As I stated, so hard to do when the racing varies (volume) of racing like it does in CX. The plan I am posting has options for weekend and THREE weekday workouts. Based on your weekend racing load, drop one or even two of the weekend harder workouts and rest or do easy skill days. CX is high intensity stuff as you know, error on the side of rest. If not sure, post and I will try to answer.
Thierry, I posted yours since you asked but NO ONE else. If anyone else wants it loaded, just request and we will load immediately.
Hope that helps.
I wrote a new 4 week plan as the final 4 weeks of the season. As I stated, so hard to do when the racing varies (volume) of racing like it does in CX. The plan I am posting has options for weekend and THREE weekday workouts. Based on your weekend racing load, drop one or even two of the weekend harder workouts and rest or do easy skill days. CX is high intensity stuff as you know, error on the side of rest. If not sure, post and I will try to answer.
Thierry, I posted yours since you asked but NO ONE else. If anyone else wants it loaded, just request and we will load immediately.
Hope that helps.
Oct 18, 2017 at 03:39 PM
@TimCusick I would like the cx plan.
To clarify, you meant to drop one or two high intensity weekday workout (not weekend as written) depending on how much we race on weekend, right?
thanks
To clarify, you meant to drop one or two high intensity weekday workout (not weekend as written) depending on how much we race on weekend, right?
thanks
Oct 18, 2017 at 03:43 PM
Correct.
Oct 18, 2017 at 04:15 PM
@PatrickG, I've loaded the CX plan for you!
Oct 18, 2017 at 05:30 PM
@TimCusick
Thank you Tim.
Thank you Tim.
Oct 18, 2017 at 08:46 PM
I’d also like it loaded to my account. Thank you Tim and Debi for all you do for us.
Oct 19, 2017 at 02:10 PM
@MaxThorn I've loaded the plan for you! And you're more than welcome. 