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Red Hook Crit

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Really exciting race to spectate!

Lots of pictures & links on the Kissena Facebook Page
get that results sheet posted on our website/facebook page!
Done
@Mattie - you have a Tiemeyer? Nice.
Neil and I came out to cheer.....yelled our lungs out for Joe and others. We looked for other Kissena's spectating, but never found y'all. But, what a great race to watch...after Chabanov opened up an initial 10-12 second gap, there was one point where it looked like his goose was cooked and the gap had come down to about 5-6 seconds. But about 1 1/2 laps later, down the long straightaway they went and by the time they were coming back to the home stretch, he had opened it back up to 12-15 seconds and it pretty much stayed there, or longer, the rest of the way. There were a couple of attempts to bridge but they never really went anywhere and eventually were gobbled back up by the lead group. Not sure if this is typical of crits but the lead group didn't seem to have much interest in working together and pulling him back. I saw lots of talking, gesticulating and head swiveling.

Curious to hear your impressions of that first chicane - even in the neutral lap it seemed like trouble waiting to happen and sure enough there was a crash immediately after the start, and at least 2-3 others after that. Guessing they might take some of the edge off of it next year....
I loved that chicane! Makes it a little more technical and you could really dig in. I feel like so many riders in such a small space with such a variation of experience makes it an extremely dangerous race.
Posted By: josephmuellerI loved that chicane! Makes it a little more technical and you could really dig in. I feel like so many riders in such a small space with such a variation of experience makes it an extremely dangerous race.
It looked dangerous!
Hard to bridge gaps if you can't change gears to even out the workload. Dan looked to have his gearing perfectly figured out. Great ride to watch. A lot of people seemed undergeared.
@John - I've never ridden a fixie let alone raced one, but I agree, it did seem like guys were getting really spun out on the tailwind straightaway where I was watching. I imagine it must be difficult to make a bridging effort at 150 rpm or whatever it would have taken. On the other hand, there was a corresponding headwind section. Do know whether Chabanov had heavier gearing than most?
@jeff

According to his blog 48x14

http://bonedeth.tumblr.com/
Interesting view of the lap times for each finisher...

crap, upload fail :(
Video from the RHC #5 this weekend. (Metal music so turn down your speakers if your at work!)

http://www.youtube.com/embed/wZv_bp3Yp_c


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZv_bp3Yp_c
Soundtrack was great! Was that you riding away from him towards the beginning joe? Didn't watch the whole thing.
testing
Some photos I took of the race with a couple of shots of Kissena riders. Being new, I don't know who they are.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/10888894@N05/sets/72157629665201671/
http://redhookcrit.com/

Milan edition.  Who is going?
If he's paying my way, I think I might be able to make it.
mugwump said:
If he's paying my way, I think I might be able to make it.
I'm with JP, but don't have my hopes up. 

Usually only repeat podium finishers get their way paid.
It's back and it's bigger and better.  Rumor has it Canadian Mike may ride... in which team kit?  Yet to be answered.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/07/sports/cycling/red-hook-criterium-is-now-a-4-race-cycling-series.html?_r=0
I think I'm in for what will be my third red hook.

damn gina!

I've done two, but didn't do it last year and probably won't do it again.  I really prefer the old gritty course with the cobbles.



and when there weren't so many elite racers kicking my arse all over the place.
I'm regged.  Would like to do some training and get some advice from others who have raced the course. 
Reg'd, one of the last spots. Advice?

1: dont blow your clip in

2: envision running people over during your start. the start is everything. like a cross race, you need to make that lead group. they will just keep going, and the bridge groups usually don't make it. mark it up to the diverse skill abilities, the sometimes brutal crosswind, the fact that you can't sit and soft pedal to recover, nor change gears to change effort or rest certain muscle groups.

3: don't slow down. you only need to slow down for the hairpin, everything else pedal through. 

4. practice cornering on your track bike. its not like riding on the track or cornering on a geared bike. 

5. the "qualification" angle is a new one. who knows how its going to shake out. FWIW, once we get seeded into heats, look over the list, see the strong guys and try and make an alliance of a rotating paceline. you only need to be in the top 50% for the main. 

6. look cool and make faces. even if you get dropped you still get badass photos and media coverage for the street creds.

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they even put you on the flyer!
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Thanks for the tips Mattie

Any idea if they are going to have that speedbump at the start again this year?  I hate the idea of having to bunny hop that fixed not knowing where your pedal is going to be oriented. 
Thanks for the tips Mattie

Any idea if they are going to have that speedbump at the start again this year?  I hate the idea of having to bunny hop that fixed not knowing where your pedal is going to be oriented. 
John you don't have to bunny hop the timing strip or "speed bump" it's a little bit of a hassle but I think it would be much more dangerous jumping it than riding over it. 

And I have to agree with Mattie, last year I made sure I got as close to the front as I could I was 3rd line behind the call ups. Last year they did a showcase lap and I made sure I kept my position there too. I wasn't a dick about it and didn't really move up but I made sure I didn't loose any spaces.