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Prospect Park Relations, Road Sharing, etc

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Vision Zero probably deserves it's own thread but until then.... http://visionzero.herokuapp.com
Hey all,

My notes from my meeting with Eric Laundau of the PPA and Lt. Perone of the 78th.

Everyone seems very positive about moving responsibility for policing "wrong way" riding during races to the 78th.

The summer staffing for the 78th begins in a couple of weeks; we should expect the stepped up enforcement to begin then too.   THIS MEANS THE 78TH WILL BE ISSUING TICKETS FOR WRONGWAY RIDING

Three things of note: 

1) there is a new Sherif of the Park in town; he seems quite sympatico and had plenty of questions about bike racing - I invited him to come out and watch a race which he is excited to do.

2) Lt Perone says that his numbers of tickets/summonses for wrongway riding for this May are triple those from last year (7=>22)

3) there were almost twenty (!) recreational riders in the joggers lane during AVD's race - as evidenced by a local citizen who has a special bee in their bonnet and is taking pictures regularly.

Also, and this is for Charlie; AVD disqualified about 1/2 dozen riders this weekend for riding in the joggers lane - I assured the Park & 78th that you would be as aggressive.

Lastly, I leave you with this Gem, which I cannot believe escaped the eagle eye of our internet posse: 

http://www.fuckedinparkslope.com/home/that-road-in-the-park-we-call-the-loop-apparently-its-a-bike.html

Charlie needs to suspend people like Lance for the whole series when he had 3-4 witnesses telling him about his awful behavior. Seems like nothing ever happens. Last year I stood at KOM and told dozens of people not to ride backwards. Nothing ever happened.
You know what's crazy about the whole riding backwards down the hill from GAP thing? It's that going a few extra meters to the left and continuing down Flatbush is so much more pleasant and probably quicker.

When I used to go backwards down the hill, I'd always be dodging traffic in the dark, and frankly it wasn't all that fun or quick.
OMG that article is horrible. Why are so many people so fucking childish? The petitioners and that asshat cyclist deserve one another.
@Ryan J _ It is horrible. Although I suspect that the asshat cyclist letter is a setup...you know, someone pretending to be a cyclist writing the letter in a way most anger non-cyclists.

I agree with Neil. Totally fake.
Ryan J said:
OMG that article is horrible. Why are so many people so fucking childish? The petitioners and that asshat cyclist deserve one another.
I decided I needed to waste some time so I looked at the petition.
https://www.change.org/petitions/prospect-park-stop-rogue-cyclists-in-prospect-park

I bet the woman who started the petition penned the anonymous letter.  Too many similarities between taht letter and the petition's language.
And we thought we had it bad: In Prospect Park, Dog Owners and Bird Watchers Fight for Space
Oh lord.  Those two don't even sit across the table from one another at the meetings.  It's full on Hatfields & McCoys...


I saw something today in PP I've never seen before: I rode from 4-5ish and didn't see anyone do anything stupid. It was almost 70 degrees. It was busy and semi-crowded. Nobody did anything super retarded.

UNFUCKINGBELIEVABLE. Up with people!!!
@Owens. You're going to jinx us.

You probably already have.
I think I saw the 78th ticketing two guys for riding the wrong way today.
Pretty sure I saw surveillance cameras being put up on various streetlights today.  Look for the boxes with the telltale black fisheye...

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^ Sorry, "streetlights IN THE PARK"
Cross posted from River Road thread

http://www.parkwaypolice.org/news-media/news-events/108-bicycle-unit.html
^awesome. 
My favorite bit:

The members also created the Class A division patch which is only worn by those members active in the Bicycle Unit.


Undoubtedly they are eventually going to go all COINTELPRO on us and try to infiltrate pacelines etc. (but at least we'll be able to recognize them by the Class A division patches).
dstokes pulled my favorite bit from the article.  Next to that though I like the fact that someone's finally recognized that there's a lot of professional cycling going down on 9w:

The New Jersey section of the Palisades Interstate Park is the region’s most active concentration of bicycle activity on both amateur and professional levels. The new unit will allow the officers to connect with the cycling community on a more common ground and bring more safety awareness to riders.
I've already acquired the film, musical, and reality series rights so don't bother. For the film version Bruce Willis is attached for the guy and Judy Dench for the lady in the center. And 3 of the bike cops are actually non-union actors with day jobs as cops and they'll be thrilled to work for cheap on Broadway. I see big franchise potential here.
Cycling wardrobe courtesy of Reno 911
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I don't know if this was previously posted, to lazy to check...
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2014/06/bicyclist-says-he-hit-prospect-park-booby-trap.html

anyone else hear anything about this? 
You can now tweet road condition/repair requests directly to 311

New Sheriff in Town

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/10/nyregion/ex-city-official-to-lead-group-that-oversees-prospect-park.html?ref=nyregion&_r=0&utm_source=PPA+President+Announcement_9.10.14&utm_campaign=President+Announcement&utm_medium=email
Stating the obvious, as the article states, Sue Donoghue basically lives in Prospect Park, a reminder to be nice and courteous to everyone in the Park, no matter what the circumstances.

Even more so if you are wearing a Kissena jersey: Represent.
eloy said:
Stating the obvious, as the article states, Sue Donoghue basically lives in Prospect Park, a reminder to be nice and courteous to everyone in the Park, no matter what the circumstances.

Even more so if you are wearing a Kissena jersey: Represent.
This.  Stop for red lights, baby carriages, etc.
"A traffic safety meeting is scheduled for Tuesday night at the 78th precinct stationhouse."
http://www.ny1.com/content/news/216326/patrons-say-cyclists-ignore-traffic-signals-in-prospect-park/

I believe these meetings occur the last Tuesday of every month, so I'm assuming it wasn't called specifically because of park and bicycle issues, and I'm going to also assume that there may be a greater police presence in the park for a few days after this meeting.
I can't play the video so don't know who they've captured going through red lights.
One of our board members will be attending.
I watched the video, and all Prospect Park pedestrians interviewed said the same thing, in essence, that cyclists are a menace in the park, they go fast, they don't stop at red lights, they scream at people. And of course they have footage of multiple cyclists running the red (although no one in a team kit that I recognize).