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Injury: Sprains, Strains, Breaks & Insurance

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If I was near the spot and had some time, I'd canvas.  Have a flyer, knock on doors, ask questions.

Here's a theory on the dream state  http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2010-03/how-time-flies
Worth contacting L&C? Leaving the scene of an accident carries a little bit of weight.
You know this, but be sure to start your claim with MVAIC asap - timing matters on these things.
eg. http://www.newyorkbikelawyer.com/Bike-Accident/Insurance-Advice-for-Cyclists.aspx
Jeff - glad to see you're still feisty and good humored about everything, but really bummed you had to experience this. Heal up, man.
FWIW, you don't need footage of the exact intersection. If there's a camera in any of the several intersections leading up to it, that could be of use.
FWIW, you don't need footage of the exact intersection. If there's a camera in any of the several intersections leading up to it, that could be of use.
Yeah or any intersections following soon after as well. Jeff - what was your route ? Were you going west on Gates ? Was Clinton and Gates where did they started revving their engine or where you got hit ? 

Have you heard anything back from the NYPD ? 
I was going south on Clinton.  They were stopped going south as well at Greene.  So I assume they were also at the intersection of Clinton and Lafayette just prior.

After running me down, they paused and turned right on gates to get the hell out of there.  Which means they probably were around the intersections of Gates/Vanderbilt, Venderbilt/Fulton, or Gates/Fulton.  There were three ways they could have gone after turning right onto Gates from Clinton.

Did I hear back from the NYPD?  HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.  Good one, Caesar!

Joe looked in the general vicinity for cameras but didn't see much.  However, like you say, retracing their probable route might provide results.  Using the street view on googlemaps, I don't see many businesses though.  The closest thing I could guess would be if they had turn left on Vanderbilt after they turned right on Gates, there's a Coastal gas station on the SE corner that might have a camera.  Again, that only a %33 chance.

Thanks for the interest though, guys.  I feel special...

Any idea re the make and model of the car?  Sounds like maybe you were peacfully moving toward the light while flutturing through the air rather than scoping out the sweet ground effects being rocked by your auto-assailant, but maybe you saw?
Silver or grey, perhaps two door.  They were too far down the street by the time they stopped for a better look or license #.

Their car will definitely have some damage to the front end.  That almost indestructible Ksyrium worked pretty well as a bumper, absorbing a fair amount of force.
Jeebus - tacoing a wheel is one thing, but actually crushing it like that...
There is one camera on Atlantic looking East.  I can't tell if it's looking at Vanderbilt or Clinton.  I don't know if the DOT keeps a recording of this, but I'm assuming they do.  NY State says they don't, but NYC may.  If they turned on Atlantic at all, the make and model may have been recorded.
That's camera is looking down Atlantic itself - ie., this view : http://goo.gl/maps/JmieA.  The McDonalds is just out of the frame on the right.

If the resolution of the online video is anything to go by, I don't think you're going to be able to get a licence# out of it. And from the angle, a right turn on Vanderbilt would be missed entirely.  Boo.
I bet the native resolution is much better but that it is dumbed down for the web display.
If there's a chance of pulling anything off these cameras, we need to ask right away--they record over old footage.
Jeff, so sorry to hear this. As someone who put a 50 year old French lady in hospital with his sheer mass just 10 days ago, I too appreciate the damage recklessness can cause. But seriously, I hope you're doing as well as you can.

Btw, I'm guessing streetview is probably a couple of years old. So you never know re shop camera footage. As JP says, the best bet is get a few people to canvas / scope out the area.
Just wanna give another big shoutout to Phil Castaldi.

He contacted me after reading a FB post on my accident, offering some great advice.  He came to my neighborhood for like the 3rd time to help me out and have me fill out papers.  He's charged me nothing for the work he put into my accident last winter and what's sure to be a fair amount of work for this one.

Basically, I had no idea that NY State has a pain & suffering fund for people that are victims of crimes.  He's also helping file all the paperwork for getting the city to cover all the medical expenses.

I can't recommend him enough as a personal injury lawyer.  He's also a super nice guy.
Owens hearts Phil

Almost as much as the 6 months where John M started every post with "Me and Vlad from Speedwell...." or that weekend when Canadian Mike raced in our colours and came second and Jules kept mentioning him in every post, in every thread.
Good times bad times....

So, after picking up the po-po report today at the 88th precinct, I decided to return to the scene of the crime.  I discovered 4 buildings with cameras pointed at the street either near, or DIRECTLY IN FRONT of where I was hit.

The first place, at 404 Clinton, I actually gained access and knocked on the landlord's door.  I asked him if I could take a look at the video and told him how I was hit by a car on the street.  He said "no" and shut the door in my face.  Ahhhhhh, people...

I found the name and number of the owner and called it to ask.  Same guy! He hung up on me.  Nice.

The other addresses are 410 Clinton, 420 Clinton (almost directly in front of where I was hit and most likely to have the actual collision footage), and 464 Clinton, which has a camera pointed down Gates in the direction they turned and might actually capture their license plate.

Although, I'm likely to run into the same responses.  And as Phil told me, all the guy has to say was that he wasn't driving and the car was stolen at the time.  Also, he's probably not very well insured.  Easier to just go the state route.  He'd probably only get leaving the scene of an accident.

This really wouldn't change anything other than potentially seeing an awesome video of my near death!  I'd love to see myself hurtling through the air like a ragdoll.

Anyway, just thought I'd mention it.  I'm not going to hunt down the other 3 address' owners and ask.  But the 420 one (Doooooooooooooode....like....4:20!!!!) might be interesting.
@Owens at a minimum you should include those addresses in your police report.  It shouldn't be *your* job to get the footage.  Frankly that should fall to the police or your attorney.
Yeah, the police don't care and Phil has dealt with these issues so often, he basically said the guy will get nothing except the misdemeanor ticket (if we can even really track down who it is and then even definitively say it was him driving, which is extremely hard). 

I'd just like to see the video!
I cannot comprehend how trying to kill somebody with an automobile on video could result in "only a misdemeanor ticket"

Not saying it's not true, but my brain cannot process.

Jules said:
I cannot comprehend how trying to kill somebody with an automobile on video could result in "only a misdemeanor ticket"

Not saying it's not true, but my brain cannot process.
You're allowed to do that.
Jules said:
I cannot comprehend how trying to kill somebody with an automobile on video could result in "only a misdemeanor ticket"

Not saying it's not true, but my brain cannot process.
B/c Bloomberg sucks.  And so does NYPD.
This is a tricky subject. I don't think that anyone should be able to get away with what happened to Owens. In another world, I could imagine ill-intentioned cyclists taking advantage of liability and creating massive legal headaches. On our bikes, we're too vulnerable. When this happens to people in cars, insurance companies take over. Is there any kind of collision insurance for cyclists? Is that sort of what the NYC pain and suffering fund angle is about? Just thinking out loud here.
@vlad

As a well-to-do cyclist, it's not about the money for me. And as a personal-responsibility-obsessed Tea Party originalist, I'm a big fan of liability.

The guy operating the death machine wasted out of his mind should be harried with the same raging hard-on as the guy who shot the ass-wad who dared to supply the wrong hoochie with some H for a blowie. 
Check with Marty Golden's office about a bill he introduced to the state senate in february. A01533

http://www.nysenate.gov/press-release/state-senate-passes-bill-increasing-hit-and-run-penalties

Can't tell what happened to the bill, if anything:
http://www.assembly.state.ny.us/leg/?default_fld= &bn=A1533&term=&Summary=Y&Actions=Y&Votes=Y&Memo=Y&Text=Y

NY State hit and run laws
http://www.ehow.com/list_6833654_new-hit-_amp_amp_-run-laws.html

100 years ago, hit and run was a felony
http://www.streetsblog.org/2013/03/12/100-years-ago-hit-and-run-was-a-felony-in-new-york-could-it-be-again/
so after 4 days off the bike (okay well i rode twice, but so gently that i didn't ever get out of breath or sweat) i am astonished to find that my patellar tendons feel quite tight!  fascinating!
http://medicalxpress.com/news/2013-07-sports-arryhthmia-heart-failure-carriers.html

""This is one of the very rare instances in which we would advise against regular exercise."

#FML

@dstearns - Ugh.