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L&C Cup

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I'm likely to be there. Unsure of fitness level but will contribute where/when I can.
Guys,
I am sorely torn that I won't be able to make this last race. I registered for the Catskills race months ago and didn't realize it was the same weekend. Stay strong, ride smart, and bring home the goods. Best of luck team!!
@Patrick Curious why you and Brendan need to bridge if a strong break forms? As long as the break riders are no threat, you are ahead in points no? Same goes for the finish — just need to do the math on how many points are available. You could even pitch it to an opposing team like Waffles that they should go for a break.

Also re the finish, plan in detail the leadout order for Brendan... someone who can diesel leading Brendan out over the top should close the door, Brendan is very quick and has a long sprint.

Make sure you all can identify the danger riders morning of.


I agree with John here. Math, math, math. Identify danger men, and watch them like, like you need to win the jersey! So excited for you guys.

P.S. Brendan, enjoy your jersey while you can, because when you jump up to the 1/2/3s, we're going to use you like a fully-insured rental car. And you will like it. And ask for more. :-)
If someone out of the points gets away you can all sit back and enjoy the victory lap with Brendan.

Whatever you do, DO NOT CHASE a break that doesn't contain a points threat.

Let's make sure we all know who those folks are early in the race. 

I believe Edikson is wearing the green jersey so that's easy.

The other two are Joshua (long shot but if he wins and Brendan gets zippo then he can take it) and Shoy (who I have yet to recognize).

Any others?
@Jim, I think that's it. Shoy is in the red/black/white MBCR kit, stocky and looks like how he kicks. We can look out for him tomorrow morning.
One last suggestion which Ragot did a great job of when Ryan was in the dots: Task someone who is bigger, stronger and can position well, to be Brendan's minder for the race — keeping him near the front and out of danger, block the wind for him and move him up and captain the leadout when the time comes.

P.S. It goes without saying that if Brendan flats the team should drop back, give him a wheel and then TT him back on.

Worth mentioning that given the points system (12,10,8,7,6,5,3,2,1) it's possible for either Josh Hartman (Major Taylor) and Erik Ferdandez (CRCA/Jordan) to take yellow given a win from a large enough breakaway group.

Brendan - 38
Pena - 36
Hartman - 28
Fernandez - 26
I went to work on wednesday ... and i just got home now. If I am rested enough to be safe I will be there to help out, but not certain.
@John You are right that there is no need for Brendan to bridge. This was not my main point - just wishful thinking on my part that he would use his strength to ride away from all his opponents. 

@Niall Good point bringing up Hartman and Fernadez. If a large break forms with them in it we chase. Lets make sure everyone knows what they look like at the start tomorrow. 

@David or @Niall - one of you want to be Brendan's minder?

I made a few changes to my original plan: 
First, Bruce should focus on the final lead out and not the 2nd KOM. The final lead out should look like: Bruce, David, Niall, Brendan followed by one or two sweepers. Other strong legs should also add to the lead out. Given the above Bruce would start the lead at the base or shortly before the hill. 

If I beat Shoy in the first KOM sprint then I keep the jersey regardless of the outcome of the second KOM. If this happens, we do not need to contest the second KOM and should all focus on the final lead out. Drilling it on the 1st KOM will help me beat Shoy on the first KOM. If I don't win the first KOM Jim, Philip (and possibly Ian) can contribute to the second KOM. 

We will communicate about the outcome of the first KOM and resulting strategy during the race.


I'll lead, sweep, or get out of the way..
Having a minder if anything takes a large mental strain off. IMHO

From the cheap seats, I vote for Niall as Brendan's minder. That dude can park himself at the front of a field and stay there in a way that is impressive.
Looking forward to tomorrow.

Patrick's plan is solid --- my fitness on the other hand, a total mystery. 

If wet, the newly painted lines (in the newly paved section) might be slippery.
@brendan's choice on minder. staying near the front with Brendan on my wheel sounds straightforward enough. one thing we haven't practiced is anyone captaining a lead out... though at this point I think everyone knows the general plan and how to help. the main things to watch out for are not starting too early, and not leaving space on the inside of the KOM leadouts for anyone to squeeze through
Excited to see you guys top the podium tomorrow. I don't see anyone as quick as Brendan in the field — agree on a solid plan, be aggressive and execute it Art of War style.
Good luck guys. I'll be checking for updates up here in the woods of Maine.
Looks like a lot of rain right now.
Fenders!
Ugh
Double flattage of the tubular kind
A rainy, shitty day.  Didn't stop the Cat 4 crew from crushing it; Brendan kept the Yellow, and I think Patrick defended the dots!


Overheard from one of the two guys in motor cross helmets off the back of the Cat 5 field, "Dude I almost broke away on the first lap. If my chain hadn't slipped off that would have been it; nobody could have caught me."


Meanwhile some jamoke in a Gran Fondo jersey riding an SWorks with not one but TWO handlebar mounted mirrors knocked Phil's bike over.

In the 123's some lone Rapha guy had almost 2 minutes on the field with 5 to go... Then I left.
Was fun. Congrats to @brendan and @PatrickG for defending and obvs: WINNING the polka dots and yellow. Total awesome.
 
Jayson Jackobs won the 123 in a lesson on how to ride in the mega rain. So much hotness.

Kissena rode great, fun to be back.
Chapeau boys!!!! That's great news. I will use this as inspiration today in the Catskills.
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I flatted on the third lap so couldn't help much but the rest of the crew kept it cool and stuck to the game plan. Absolutely thrilled to see Brendan and Patrick keep their jerseys.

123 winner had about 2 minutes on the field at the end. He won on a 4 or 5 lap solo break.
Nice work, boys. Look forward to seeing the (soggy) podium pics.
123 guy was away when I got there with 8 to go...