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Wow, I remember you saying a lap or so earlier that you felt like you bonked and thought that you were just taking it easy, I'm sorry I didn't ask if you were feeling okay.

Ok, who's up for a healthy potato diet for weight-loss and energy gain?

http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/2010/12/potato-diet-interpretation.html

 

Around 5 years ago I lost 50 lbs. Did the full on no carb diet - tougher than atkins, less than 20 grams of carbs a day. It sucked and it worked. You really need a diet buddy. I can't see doing any sustained weight loss without a friend.

It definitely helps having my wife on board, she is down about 10lbs as well. 
Racing the weight off.

5/8/12 (180ish)

8/11/12 (165ish)

... just saying
That's not entirely true, Vlad - to your credit I've seen you exercising some serious restraint at the dinner table.  
That's very true Ryan although I doubt that any of that would have stuck without the benefits of racing.

I miss dunking cheese into mayo at Calexico.
Congrats Vlad!

hey,

does anyone have a reasonably priced scale that they can recommend? I don't really care about how perfectly calibrated it is, as long as it is reasonably accurate for me day to day. Also, being able to buy via amazon.com is a plus.
Buy the cheapest digital Tanita you can find.  I think I got one on eBay for $28.

@mperlberg I can give you one for free.
Pay up for the Withings.  It is worth it.  Longitudinal data rocks.
^^^ second that.

http://www.withings.com/en/utils/graph?userid=1068288&publickey=48276ec35adcf051&massUnit=kg&forcedisplay=fm
http://www.withings.com/en/utils/graph?userid=653208&publickey=2dc5f00458b62d2e&massUnit=lb&forcedisplay=fm
Woah, I can't believe I only weigh 2.9 lbs more than Jules. Also, note that Jules is using the Withings 'Athlete' body composition model when calculating the body fat percentage. I'm using the 'Shlub' alternative. 'Athlete' had me at 4.7% this morning.

(Nerds)
Yeah, I've been gaining weight since April, but trying not to get too nutso about it.  I'm happy with my results and empirically stronger.

Still, I'd love to ride Battenkill at my current power output and 152 pounds!  A guy can dream, right?
The Withings, when paired with TrainingPeaks, is an invaluably easy tool to use when figuring out what Power output we can sustain at certain weights.

For example, I was able to up my threshold to 320 W at about 164 lbs. My previous was 300 W at about 180 lbs.

That dream might not be so far fetched bud.

W/kg, bro.
I'm all over it holmes :P
What's the difference between the athlete and shlub body fat calculation? Jules' fat seems incredibly low and Vlad's seems about right.
I'm not sure how they do it, but this is what Withings has to say:

"As a matter of fact, high-level sportsmen do not have the same body structure as average Joe. Therefore, their body analysis must be adapted. I advised you to select the athlete version if you practice more than 8 hours per week and if you have a resting heart rate below 60 beats a minute. "

http://blog.withings.com/en/2010/03/12/new-features-put-forward-by-withings-users/

Regardless of the number and calculation, it's great to keep a record of it so that I can track changes. I don't know which one is more applicable, I mean, have you seen Jules? Dude is seriously skinny.

Here's an in-depth review of the device:

http://www.dcrainmaker.com/2010/05/withings-wifi-scale-in-depth-review.html
curious - how does calculate your body fat %?  i had mine down to about 6-7% before my health took a nosedive, but i wasn't ever really confident with the machine's accuracy (*not a withings).....

despite 3+ months of relative inactivity compared to the amount i was training before, i've only put on about 5 lbs....(159>164)....though, i'm sure my binge of mini black-and-white cookies last weekend helped wonders on that front! 


"Its working relies on injecting a very low intensity current
(absolutely safe and painless) into the feet, and the simultaneous
measurement of electrical resistance met by this current.

As the fatty tissue is not a conductor, the resistance is in proportion to the
quantity of the body's lean mass.  Several equations are used to deduct
the lean mass, then you calculate the quantity of body fat by
subtracting the lean mass from the weight."

BRZZZTT!!!
excellent.  this will interact well with the shocker in my chest.  david blaine won't have sh*t on me.

well, i guess this beats ye old skin caliper...


Actually, the skin caliper test...when done by a skilled professional is most accurate. This is from the guy, who was doing an underwater bouncey test on me years ago.

I think key, with the electricity scales, is to do it at the same time every day (or week or whatever) in roughly the same state of hydration. I think it's more important, when buying a scale of this type is to get something that is more reliable than accurate.

That is to say, that who cares if you are actually 9 or 10 or 3% body fat, what really matters is that the scale is measuring you the same-ish every day.
interesting!  

the body fat thing for me was always more out of general curiosity about how lean i was getting - not the raw number as a goal in-and-of itself, but more about how it's trending.....

ok...so i'll get a straight-up weight only scale.  i always wanted one of those that they have in the doctors office with the actual weights you slide around.  

According to my Withings scale I weigh 164 lbs and have a lean body mass of 133 lbs. That's 31 lbs of fat! Man, I suck. Apparently I'm supposed to be slighter than William. Maybe I should do what Wojciech did and embark on a three-day trek with one day's worth of food. I do have a theory that the device is not taking into account my out-of-whack head-to-body ratio. Or maybe my body provides more resistance because I'm "difficult."
My scale no longer gives me body fat percentage it just tells me if my fat is chewy or buttery.


I think key, with the electricity scales, is to do it at the same time every day (or week or whatever) in roughly the same state of hydration. 
This is what makes the Withings so sweet.  I brush my teeth, piss, step on the scale and go to bed.  Next morning, get up, piss, step on scale and start my day.

I don't have to even look at the numbers, but I'm accumulating really useful data that can be looked at over time.  I found with point-in-time scales I would get too focused on the number I happened to remember most vividly (good or bad) and lose track of the big picture.

The training peaks integration is also really sweet for those that use it.

Checking-in on everyone's weigh-in here... road season is just couple months away: how are you guys doing?

I'm about a month into my 2nd trial of the Warrior Diet (modified with Friel and Cordain's Paleo for Athletes regimen). I survived a two week holiday at-home w/ family and lots baked temptations and molto vino --and only gained 1 pound. That was a victory for me. The loss in the 2 weeks prior to the holiday trip was 9 pounds --median weight was down to 163lbs from starting median weight of 172lbs. I have been comfortable cruising through the daily quasi-fasting, and eating sizable dinners (not the Homeric feasts I was eating in my 1st Warrior Diet trial). This diet feels more natural to my schedule and eating habits than anything I've tried. Not for everyone, but if you have problems getting in touch with your inner Leptin (or, as I did, suspect that your body doesn't make or receive Leptin) then you might should give it a try.

My big challenge will be staying on-plan after moving to Portland --the sight of my massive weight re-gaining last spring. If everything goes according to plan, I should be down to 154lbs by March 1st.

What are you guys --especially you dudes with hilly races on your calendars-- targeting this year?

Oh, a brief anecdote: during my holiday trip to SC, I didn't have regular access to a body-weight scale. Instead of weighing, I just looked closely at my abdominal and oblique muscles to make sure these muscles had the same look everyday. I am just at the point where gaining a pound or so will obscure my external obliques, so when I saw that area lose a slight bit of definition, I fasted a little more diligently and supped less eagerly. Although weight is vital, the visual check seems mighty helpful.

I reckon that, in addition to fat gain/loss, hydration and muscle gain/loss are factors in visual appearance. So, you need to keep watch/be aware of these things (and know how to correct any undesired growth/loss and/or abnormal hydration).