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Close Encounters of the #%&*@! Kind (Legal too)

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The "hill bombing" fixters riding out of control over the Williamsburg bridge these days is incredible. It's their descent of Ventoux. The chicanes on either side make for some hilariously dangerous games of chicken as they desperately attempt to skid out of the way of oncoming traffic.

You hear about the "zen ness" of brakeless fixie riding in the city. All I see is panicked circus bears spinning uncontrollably with the look of fear on their faces.

The best is when the chain breaks/drops and they try to go full Fred Flintstone. My commute needs drama!
The "hill bombing" fixters riding out of control over the Williamsburg bridge these days is incredible. It's their descent of Ventoux. The chicanes on either side make for some hilariously dangerous games of chicken as they desperately attempt to skid out of the way of oncoming traffic. You hear about the "zen ness" of brakeless fixie riding in the city. All I see is panicked circus bears spinning uncontrollably with the look of fear on their faces. The best is when the chain breaks/drops and they try to go full Fred Flintstone. My commute needs drama!
I learned my lesson for that back in 2002 when I broke by fixie chain going across the Manhattan bridge (yes I was a hipster fixie rider back then). Nothing as terrifying as a that feeling of suddenly spinning free, and no clear/safe runout.
I have heard stories of people dying because they end up under the wheels of a truck. Chain snaps and they careen into an intersection.  Track bikes have their place but in the city it's reckless to have only one way to stop your bike.  Darwin awards tells me evolution will take care of them.
cross-posting from the trash talk thread...


If the passenger gets out of a cab at the wrong place, on the wrong side, at the wrong time, etc, it's on the cab driver.  It's his vehicle.  He takes the hit, as does his insurance.  (and when I got doored by a passenger getting illegally out of a cab, the cab company paid not only my medical bills, but a good bit more, thanks to my lawyer)

  

Here's the reg

"(c)
Pickup and discharge of passengers by taxis, commuter vans and for
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hire vehicles.
Operators of taxis, commuter vans and for hire vehicles may, in the course of the lawful operation of
such vehicles, temporarily stop their vehicles to expeditiously pick up or discharge passengers at the
curb in areas where standing or parking is prohibited. Taxis, commuter vans and for hire vehicles,
while engaged in picking up or discharging passengers must be within 12 inches of the curb and
parallel thereto, but may stop or stand to pick up or discharge passengers alongside a vehicle parked
at the curb only if there is no unoccupied curb space available within 100 feet of the pickup or
discharge location; however, picking up or discharging passengers shall not be made:
(1)
Within a pedestrian crosswalk.
(2)
Within an intersection, except on the side of a roadway opposite a street which intersects but
does not cross such roadway.
(3)
Alongside or opposite any street excavation when stopping to pick up or discharge
passengers obstructs traffic.
(4)
Under such conditions as to obstruct the movement of traffic and in no instance so as to
leave fewer than 10 feet available for the free movement of vehicular traffic.
(5)
Where stopping is prohibited.
(6)
Within a bicycle lane.
(7)
Within horse drawn carriage boarding areas."

Wowza

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctsDl7g6a1w
I like how the driver turned on his wipers to rid his windshield of that pesky cyclist.
I like how the driver turned on his wipers to rid his windshield of that pesky cyclist.
I can't believe he stuck the landing.
these are quite beautiful.  RIP.  http://gothamist.com/2014/08/05/nyc_vision_zero_art.php#photo-18
On my way up to the GWB around 9:15 on 55th street there were NY Dot workers with orange vests and slow/stop signs for bikers. 

I stopped when I saw the second worker a block away and asked what gives? He said verbatim "the Police are going to start cracking down on bikers in the next few weeks because I think they need money". I asked him if he had a rough idea of where this "crackdown" might happen and he said 59st bridge. 

So heads up.
I've seen those DOT workers around town for a few months now. Every so often they show up on my commuting route. 

The latest time was at each light along 4th Ave in Manhattan between Houston and 8th Street. The funny thing is that along that stretch the lights are timed such that if you ride at decent pace you don't hit any red lights until 14th Street. Those guys looked bored.

Also, I rode over the 59th Street bridge today and there was no action. What would they crackdown on anyway?


I was coming up on the site of the recent bicycle/bus crash at the ferry terminal on west side bike path yesterday morning around 8:30. There was a police car parked in the southbound bike lane with its lights flashing. Officers sitting inside trolling their twitter/facebook accounts while cyclists piled up at the red light trying to obey the law.

I considered offering my consulting services to the officers to point out
a) that they were taking up valuable real estate by putting their car in the bike lane
b) that they were facing the wrong intersection if they were trying to address the recent bicycle/bus incident
c) that our stopping at the red lights was actually counter productive since the bus incident occurred when the both the cyclist and bus driver had a green light
d) that they would be most helpful if they stepped out of car and actually directed traffic

However, I elected to simply grumble to myself, keep my head down and ride on.
dstokes said:

However, I elected to simply grumble to myself, keep my head down and ride on.
Maybe the five year-old Noah had something to say to them.
This morning I did something that I wouldn't wish on anyone and hope never, ever happens again, like, in the world: I hit a pedestrian. I was coming up E 45th street, close to my work, trying to make the light that crosses 2nd Avenue. I had plenty of time, but I was out of the saddle since it's a bit of an incline. Cars were stopped since the intersection is clogged, but I didn't see a few people coming from behind a truck. I yelled but and avoided two of them but couldn't brake in time for the unlucky third.

I went flying into the intersection which thankfully didn't have moving traffic. The woman was knocked down but got back up and appeared to have not even spilled her coffee. I landed on my side, my wrist, and the side of my head. Proceeded to get yelled at by everyone who witnessed the incident. Needless to say, I felt terrible. Even if the light was in my favor, even if so many pedestrian are oblivious asshats that don't look up from their smart phones, I am obviously at fault. And I am usually so cautious about pedestrians--they're holy as far as the street pecking order is concerned. 

But I guess this serves as a reminder that it's better to stop for aforementioned asshats, even when they're being big asshats and you have the right of way, because it's better to wait than ending up with a sprained wrist (or maybe worse--getting X-rays this evening), some gnarly bruises and a busted helmet. On the plus side, I just ordered a brand new Rudy helmet...very thin silver lining.
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I'll watch out for you when I'm walking around that area @kayt! (I work somewhat close there too).

Sorry I couldn't resist but I'm glad you're OK and the pedestrian too. I think it happens to the best of us. Sometimes we just forget how vulnerable we are and how deadly it could be riding around the city, especially when nothing bad has happened to us in a while.
Heal up, Kayt.  I'm sorry to hear you went down.  The worst is touching one's face to a Manhattan street.  I don't even pick up change I've dropped. 
 
It's difficult to get around in this city.  Pedestrians walk out into the street against the light on either side of the sidewalk and demand they have the right of way, cyclists (myself included) get so frustrated at cars and trucks pulling in front so you can't get through that the slightest hint of going through a yellow becomes a small victory, and driving with taxis all around you, pedestrians crossing and cyclists going through yellows makes every red light another tick up in blood pressure.

So, accidents happen all the time.  I'm sorry to hear you hit someone, and it sounded like you got the worst of the collision and that she was ok.  Don't hit any more people; your bike deserves better.  And easing back, letting a pedestrian, or another racer, get in front of you, is sometimes good strategy, and good to practice.

I do think that's awesome you were out of your saddle, sprinting in the middle of Manhattan.  Save it for race day, but nice job.  Every ride is a training ride.
I feel no sympathy with the pedestrian. They should stay on the sidewalk until the light turns.
That's the law.
Sorry to hear you were hurt.
My sympathy is for you Kayt, not the asshats.  People in this town feel entitled to rage on each other - but that doesn't mean they are.

Heal up, and enjoy the sliver noggin lining.  Fingers crossed for your xrays.
Thank you all. Helps more than you know. 

X-Rays were inconclusive because there are so many little bones in there, but the good news is that nothing serious is broken. Bad news is that they think it's a hairline fracture of the scaphoid based on the level of pain and lack of mobility. I'm in a splint for at least a week and have been instructed to put zero pressure on it--which I timed perfectly with a week-long work trip, where I'll have access to a bike + trainer, ha! 

I forgot to mention that the bike is OK. I was riding the titanium steed, which is basically indestructible--wish I could say the same thing about me! Thanks again, y'all. 
It appears there might be a crackdown going on.  Lots of anecdotal evidence showing up.  A friend got ticketed at Morningside ave and 116 for riding a red.  The police told her there was a bike safety initiative going on.  And a workplace friend just tipped my wife off to the same thing.  The second person said the initiative lasts to the 26th of august.


I saw a couple of posts on FB as well, increased stops for riding the wrong way and running the red.
And here's a news article about it. Be careful out there, guys. I also hope they're done by the time I show up for a September visit. I'd like to get in a few rides without the NYPD homecoming committee. 
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2014/08/13/nypd-launches-2-week-bicycle-safety-crackdown/
Gothamist has it, too.

http://gothamist.com/2014/08/13/nypd_starts_2-week_bicycle_safety_e.php
Yeah, NY1 covered "Operation Safe Cycle this morning as well.  I wonder who comes up with these creative names?   How about "Operation Inconsistent And Irrational Enforcement?" 
Just another way the NYPD makes me feel safe. 

Hopefully if I get too out of line (like if I ride on my sidewalk for half a block as I'm heading out) they'll use a chokehold to protect me from myself.
It's cool, Ryan. We can hop in a car and run some reds while doing 15 over the limit. We'll get out of the city just fine.
Thanks to a dingus on the Manhattan bridge, I'm the proud owner of a broken Garmin and some nice lil' scratches on my elbow and knee. Riding up the on ramp I was a bit over geared. I looked down, looked up, and saw a dude on a fixie facing me head on. Rather than ride around me -- no one was on either side -- he decided to make it a standoff. 

I couldn't unclip fast enough, and topple I went. Guy just said some shit and rode away before I could even get up and discover my cracked screen. So, fixie guy, I hope you get yours. When people say they hate cyclists, it's this guy they're referring to. Fuck him.

/end rant

And if anyone knows of some good tips for repairing a cracked Garmin screen, hit me up.
Adam,
You can send it back and they'll either fix it or send you a newer one.  I cracked a screen on a 500 a few years back and I think it cost me $80.
Whoa -- good to know. Thanks, JP. I was going to try and DIY it, but that's pretty reasonable for the fix.
That the info can be of help to others is some succor.  

I learned about it in a bitter department of irony moment.  I was installing a new hard drive on my iMac and the glass screen of the iMac is what broke the plastic screen of the Garmin.  I was pulling it off with suction cups and it slipped a bit.  The garmin was sitting on my desk under the screen and thus bore the brunt of the impact.