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White Plains Downtown Criterium

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My normalized was 301w.
Weird, yours makes more sense Eric. This data was from the stages and not the quarq. I wonder if that has any effect on it. I have noticed slight lag on the real time power reporting on the garmin before, but nothing noteworthy after uploading the data.
This will happen Sunday, June 14th.  Reg opens March 23.

https://www.bikereg.com/the-fourth-annual-white-plains-downtown-criterium
This will happen Sunday, June 14th.  Reg opens March 23.

https://www.bikereg.com/the-fourth-annual-white-plains-downtown-criterium
This is another great crit "in the city." Challenging, fun course. I highly recommend it.
This Sunday!

https://www.bikereg.com/the-fourth-annual-white-plains-downtown-criterium

Pound for pound the best crit around.

All signed up.
vlad said:
This Sunday!

https://www.bikereg.com/the-fourth-annual-white-plains-downtown-criterium

Pound for pound the best crit around.

Looking forward to this race! I'm definitely going to race the P1/2/3 event, and briefly thinking about ignoring my own "don't race 2 crits in a day" rule, and adding the Master's event to that too. Last year I did both, and somehow didn't get scored in my main event (of course), so maybe this year, I'll get ignored in the Master's and scored in the P1/2/3?

BUT why should YOU do this race too?

Well, this is a real crit. On real city streets, with real handling challenges, tactical, positional negotiations that matter. Racing these types of races, even if they aren't in your wheelhouse are a really good way to make you a better overall racer.

(I do the Albany RR almost every year even though I get dropped by Roger Aspholm like on the first lap...)

It's a great way to see your teammates race. One of the really nice things about cross season, is that you often end up with a bunch of fun KCC folks cheering each other on throughout the day. I'd love to get a similar environment going at local crits. I was just flicking through my FB fotos with my son today and eventually we came to a bunch of sweet cross pics from Eloy and Jules. Those were fun to see. It be fun to see crit pics too!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyf5hserS3I

I have, on VHS, a recording of the 1988 criterium nationals held on this course.  Two eventual world champions battled it out.  Homeboy Mike McCarthy got beat in a sprint by John Tomac.
I'm in and I hope to have some teammates in the 4s to work with. This is a classic regional crit and it's one that can be seriously contested with almost any team coordination.

Plus my dad will be in town so he'll be all, "Don't say 'can't,' there is no such thing as 'can't,'" just like the old days. It might not work for you but for whatever reason it worked for me ...
In for the 4s.
I'm looking for a ride, so let me know if anyone has space in their car.
Taking 9th place last year at White Plains against the heavily sandbagging cat 4 field for the NY state crit championship might have been my best 2014 result USAC points wise.  Niall and Patrick kept me up front all race and if I were even slightly smarter about taking corners I could probably have moved up a few places in the sprint. If you race as a team, the cat 4 race is ours for the taking.
Also do not be afraid of trying for a hole shot breakaway. You'll need the requisite firepower to stay away, but never overestimate the racing intelligence of the cat 4 field and underestimate their laziness and willingness to sit on wheels bit not pull through. I swear it took a solid 2-3 laps until the field besides the first 3 guys chasing (I mean "chumps" - myself included) realized there was a 2 man winning break up the road.

Anyone interested in riding out to the course on Saturday for some recon? We can talk about race tactics, how to handle the corners, etc.

Let me know and I'd be happy to make the time.


Hey I'm in that video! (Horrendous yellow kit). I forgot my first crit ever was a 3/4. Lots of things I would differently on Sunday from then.

Online registration closes soon! Don't miss one of the best local races of the year!
In for the 4s and am reliably informed Sean is in for the 5s (sean, when are you upgrading!!). Anyone down for cycling back to NY after the race?
In for the 4s and am reliably informed Sean is in for the 5s (sean, when are you upgrading!!). Anyone down for cycling back to NY after the race?
I'll be riding to and from the race. But I'm doing the last race of the day. I rode home a few years ago, it was pleasant. Can't remember really remember the route, but I'll have to investigate this some time today or tomorrow.

ps: http://kissenacycling.vanillaforums.com/discussion/comment/75988#Comment_75988

I plan on taking Metro North up, and then riding home via the Trailway.  Using a variation of this, though going down Broadway instead of through Van Cortland park.
http://ridewithgps.com/routes/1637958

This Sunday is bicycle Sunday on the Bronx river parkway. Closed to cars from white plains to Scarsdale. Not sure if that helps us. 
This Sunday is bicycle Sunday on the Bronx river parkway. Closed to cars from white plains to Scarsdale. Not sure if that helps us. 
That does, as I recall! JP, you planning on riding to the race?

Looking over the start lists for this weekend, looks like Jeff is going to tackle two races. The Cat 4 and the 3/4 race. For the 4 race, he's got some teammates and is probably the most experienced crit racer on the squad. Although, I know Niall is strong, and I don't remember his racing background/history.

Regardless, hopefully you guys can get together, or chat about some race planning here on the forum at least. It will be good to go into the event with a plan, even if it doesn't get executed to a T. I think one thing that you will have to guard yourself against is racing in a less than smart way. You guys are plenty strong, and have good experience, and that can lead to wasting energy with moves and positioning choices that you can get away with just because you are strong.

And in the 3/4 race, Jeff, I don't know if you noticed, but that field is over 90 riders strong. So please, please, please, get to the start line warmed up and early! I know that some on this forum have talked about how starting at the back isn't a problem. And in some cases, that can be true. But really that is ultimately a dangerous path to travel down. Plus, on this course, tight and short, riders 45-90 are going to be hating life.

Cat 5s have Sean. Just stay near the front, top 15 or so riders, and be ready to sprint. I'd be very surprised if a breakaway took the top spots in a Cat 5 race. You'll have to be careful you don't kill all your last laps energy trying to make breakaways happen. You start out the race, trying to make the race you want, but ultimately, you have to race the race you are in.

40+ 4/5, Rick "Bionic Shoulder" Perner is back in action! Just have fun and be safe!

Women 1/2/3/4 will feature Kayt kicking butt just weeks before her departure to strange and foreign lands.

Surprisingly small field for the Men 1/2/3s. Riverton, another great crit, is sucking up some riders who might otherwise do this event, but they've got small fields too. And maybe we'll get lots of "day-ofs," but right now is me, Vlad and JP against 29 other riders.

My final push to get more of KCC out racing involves some out of context (sort of) quoting. From Eloy's race report about the Orchard Beach CRITERIUM:
  • "f*cking love it when we go hard and fast"
  • "3 to go, 2 to go, bell, so much speed, but let's go faster, more speed, sweeeeet!"
  • "hotness"
Don't miss out on the hotness. This is a good one.

I think you can see Vlad in this video from 2012?

http://www.whiteplainscrit.com/video.php?id=1

Just a quick note on pre-race nutrition.  I woke up this morning dehydrated.  I slept without ac last night.  I'm slowly rehydrating today because of that, and it's hot and humid as I type this. 
I made a mixture of a small amount of iced coffee, a scoop of some preload, soy milk, TJs vanilla protein powder and water.  And throughout the day, I'll be drinking water with quartered Hammer fizz tabs.
Now that I'm down to racing weight, I can lose water pretty quickly, and every ounce means that much more to my body.  Coffee is not a great idea, but, you know, coffee.
Make sure you're properly hydrated today for tomorrow's race with whatever mixture works for you, even if it's just water.
Guy s is there a way to find out if your category is full for the races tomorrow. I didn't pre reg and don't fancy heading up to get turned away tomorrow morning. Cat 5 by the way. 
Thanks 
The Cat 5 race, and the 4/5 40+ are both at half capacity, and they have day of registration.  Looks like there's plenty of room for either race.
https://www.bikereg.com/Confirmed/27337
Guy s is there a way to find out if your category is full for the races tomorrow. I didn't pre reg and don't fancy heading up to get turned away tomorrow morning. Cat 5 by the way. 
Thanks 
Bikereg shows the number of entries and field size limits are usually USAC standard

https://s3.amazonaws.com/USACWeb/forms/RdTrkCx_rulebook.pdf

"1G6. Maximum Field. Entries shall be accepted in order of receipt by the organizer up to the field limit and subsequent entries shall be returned. The maximum field limit in any youth race or a race exclusively for category 5 men or Category 4 women shall be 50 riders. The maximum field for a field that includes category 5 men with other categories shall be 75. For other events, if no field limit is given in the official race announcement, a field limit of 100 shall be used. 1"
Sean won the cat 5. Cat 4 still racing.

AWESOME!!!!

Now you've done it Phillip...I keep refreshing this window hoping for further updates!