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Local Dopers

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Aly said "semi-chronic" advantage. LULZ. (Is this also known as "Dr. Dre light"?)
Hey isn't this about "local" dopers. I think we should move on to discussing Alejandro Guzman and his sandbagging self riding away with ease from the Cat 2/3/4 field on both days of this past weekend.
That little dude made it look too easy.
I can't upgrade him and he's not racing enough 2's in my book to be forced by Randy Inglis. Feel free to complain to him if you like.
He certainly got a good dose of upgrade heckling on Sunday. Maybe he'll take the hint.

Is Guzman that little hobbit who took off at FBF about a month ago with Jan in a break and won without breathing hard?  What a jerk.  I'd feel a lot better about my failure to bridge to that break if I knew he was juicing.
He's doped to the gills. You heard it here first!
I thought it was "troll"
Mystical taxonomy is important.

On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 6:00 PM, Jeff Owens <
So my heckling of doper was accurate?
He's doped to the gills. You heard it here first!
You know, I'd put the guy on Gremlin.
"Professional Dopers" thread has been created with Pro-topics moved to it.
Does this guy count as a local or as a pro?

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/15/sports/runner-christian-hesch-describes-doping-with-epo.html
He counts as a douche... a major douche.

Seriously, the level of douche out there is incomprehensible. I'm constantly blown away by it.

This guy and his fucking push-ups.

Oh, and this quote - "Hesch maintains that he never raced on EPO but used it to recover from injuries."
I think I completely missed this when the story first came out.  Amazing.

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2012/08/06/120806fa_fact_singer?currentPage=all
This is where the local drug testing story belongs

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324103504578374681699511190.html?mod=WSJ_hp_EditorsPicks

Not noted is that the author is himself a local racer.
At least David Anthony got another name drop.
You can totally understand why he'd get a call.  He did such an awesome job evading doping controls.
I don't know the guy personally, but from the bit I read about him when news of his positive came out (including, his somewhat lame mea culpa). I get the impression that he may be the type of guy who gets some sort of creepy buzz from mentions like that.

Where's Bunde and Melito "Pulla" H. in this article. Both of these guys got busted and served suspensions. Am I right?
I'm happy they didn't get any publicity
Bunde moved out of town and he's still publicly clinging to the "accident" excuse.  Pulla is still mum on it.  Lisban Quintero, like the others, probably wasn't asked.  

Oh, how could I forget Lisban...god damn...so many dopers. JP, did you ever imagine that we would have race against so many doped up guys over the last couple of decades?
Who was the cat 4 doper? Chodroff?
Jon Chodroff was a category III racer and on the crew team at Yale, when the Yale crew seems to have made a group purchase of EPO from Joe Papp.  

Chodroff is from Chadds Ford, PA, but his time trial prowess netted him a ride on the NYC-based team that is now Stan's/AXA/Proferrin.  He won the amateur TT nationals at that discipline, turned pro for OUCH, and was on a second pro team when, for some reason, his name popped up on the infamous Papp list.  

Since Lisban Quintero is back, I figure I'd refresh people's memory of his transgression.

http://velonews.competitor.com/2011/06/news/crca-suspends-quintero-after-positive-test_180041

http://velonews.competitor.com/2011/07/news/lisban-quintero-accepts-two-year-suspension_180923

What's funny is that in 2010, when he won the Basking Ridge Gran Prix race a Wednesday night event, he had been dropped at the Wilmington crit the Saturday before, and was still only at my level the next day, during a handicap event at FBF, and then he goes out and beats a whole bunch of professional crit riders three days later.  And it was hardly the first time I saw him go from mediocre to amazing in a short period of time.  He probably just slept a bunch and got a good massage. 

And I know this comment is going to draw the ire of Keith and others, who hate baseless speculation, but watching Cesar Marte at ToAD was bizzare. He rides super comfortable in the top 15, hardly looking like he's working, then I check the results...and he's nowhere, not even listed as a finisher. I don't know if he's doping, or just a dope. But something fishy is going on. He's riding Iron Hill this weekend, but not for Mengoni for Champ-Sys. Whatever that's all about.
http://velonews.competitor.com/2010/06/news/a-conversation-with-up-and-comer-lisban-quintero_122720#ixzz0rtdEatJS

Lisban's final comments are priceless..."I’m going to take the same serious approach next year as I have this year. If I’m lucky, I’ll get a pro contract with a good team. The main thing is that the team I ride for has good organization. That’s important."

Is "good organization" code for good team dr's ?
Next time I work reg and he comes up, I'm going to ask him how the regimen is going.  Fucking douche.
someone needs to look into what everhard paredes is taking.  it's really not easy to do what he claims.

someone needs to look into what everhard paredes is taking.

Viagra?

Sorry, too easy.