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Cyclocross!

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Mentioned today..., here's Myerson full video "Cycle-Smart Solutions for Cyclocross, 2004"

Please ignore the step-through dismount stuff, that's so 1999, and kinda dangerous (even Myerson says so, and shows examples of it going wrong)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q44PwlP0JV4

His approach is awesome: Cyclocross is throwing problems at you, and what you need is command of the solutions. Ultimately, no matter what, you can always stop, think, and come up with a way to approach and solve the obstacle or challenge. 
Cross season is long and involves lots of traveling. In an attempt to make the coordination of carpools easier I have created a Google Doc with a list of most every race we might want to go to (and some we probably don't). Add your name and select from the drop down menus to indicate 1) whether you are going to the race (yes, no, maybe) and 2) whether you can offer or need a ride (have space, need ride, can't pool). You don't really need to indicate the races you are not going to go to, but I guess doing so also keeps people from having to guess. It is also a good idea to come back to the list and update it as the season progresses. 

I think I included all the races, but may have missed one. Let me know if I missed your all time favorite race and I will add it to the list. 

Here is the link
thanks to all who organized cx clinic - i hope to make it out to at least a few races. my sad, roadie body is sore all over today
I put these together for anyone new to the sport. I'll be trying my best to find a CX scene within a few hours drive of here, but living vicariously through you lucky bastards on the east coast :)

Jules' Rules for Cyclocross

1: Preride the course. If you find a tricky section, ride it again and again. There is a lot of peer pressure to "come one, let's finish the lap" but resist it. Spend your time on the tricky spot. Find and then ride the good line, then ride the bad lines. Odds are you won't have your choice of line the first couple of laps. If there are faster people riding, stop and watch how they solve the problem.

2: Race HARD. This is not a road race with sitting in, and biding your time. You should race into every corner like it was the final before the finish and sprint out of each corner as hard as you can.
2.1 ABP always be passing. You should always, always be trying as hard as you can to pass the next person in front of you.

3: Recover. Cross is so, so, SO much harder on your body than road racing. You will not be able to race every weekend all fall. Tim's schedule will show this but the races are so hard you will basically be riding at a "slow mosey" pace during the week. Listen to your body. Every CX veteran can tell you about a season where they got super mega sick from racing too much and lost a month or six weeks of fun.

4: Spread the Awesome. Cheer, ring a bell, offer a handup, share a ride with teammates, celebrate with pizza and donuts. Cross is about so much more than your time between the tape.

5: Race another day. There is no corner/tricky descent, or pass that is worth injuring yourself or someone else.

Now back to watching old #Svenness videos....

Did you miss Sunday’s CX clinic?

Join Eloy for his Thursday morning CX skills sessions in Prospect Park. 

Did you want more? 

Head to Randall’s Island in Wednesday nights for Keith Garrison’s CX weekly training sessions. 

Want even more? (You can never have enough CX)

Myles Romanow (promoter of the Supercross Cup) has offered to meet up at Cunningham or other trails to teach you to ride a CX bike like a pro or just plain have fun on the trails. A few years back we met up in Southampton for a clinic, trail riding, and a bonfire on the beach.

If you want to head to Cunningham, or are open to driving to Long Island, reapond to this post or message me directly. If we can figure out a date that works for everyone we will make it happen. 
@PatrickGrehan I am open to all of these ideas  B)
Hey gang, I have a quick question for the cyclocross experts out there. I recently bought a 2019 Giant TCX Advanced that came with Maxxis All-Terrene tubeless tires. Can anyone help me decide on whether I should cast these aside for something knobbier or should I keep them on my bike for now? I signed up for the Whirlybird race, which seems to be very grassy. I think my tires will hold up fine there. Am I right? Thanks! 
@RobertPeras I hadn’t heard of these tires. Looking them up online, they appear to be a Grifo style tyre with slightly taller/squared off knobs. They are probably a good tire to start with as they should grip well in the corners. 

The good news is that it’s relatively quick and easy (but can be a little messy) to swap out tubeless tires. While you could race on only one set of tires all cx season, you can swap between tires for different conditions. 

If you scroll back back through this thread you’ll find lots of good tire advice. The two most popular brands of tires for CX are Challenge and Donnelly (formerly Clement). There are a lot of other good tires out there. Some people really like Specialized, Vittoria and others. 

Challenge has the Grifo as their all around tire and the Limus and baby Limus for muddy conditions. They also make the Chicane which has limits side knobs but a file tread center which is good for fast dry courses. I think (but am not certain that they are all available as tubeless). 

Donnelly has a similar tire range: MXP is their all around Grifo. PDX is their mud tire and LAS is their file tread with side knobs. Donnelly tires all run tubeless. 

I find the Donnelly tires to hold up a little better and I find the Challenge tire to be a little more supple. It’s a matter of preference. 

I would suggest you get yourself a pair of tubeless mud tires (my preference is PDX) and spend time riding those as well as your Maxxis tires. When the Maxxis tires start to wear out try MXPs or Grifos. 

Congrats on the new bike and enjoy!
I forgot to mention that the WTB cross boss is a 700 x 35 tubeless tire that is great on dry grass and dirt. It has one of the tightest tubeless beads out there (no burps!) and the wider width leaves for more grip and a plusher ride. Cyclocross Mag gave it tire of the year a few years back. Thanks hebonly caveat is that the sidewalks tend to leak sealant after a 6-12 months of use. 
@RobertPeras - you'd be fine with those tires but unless it rains at Whirly (or any early season races), I don't they'll be as fast a file tread lke the Challenge Chicanes or anything with shorter knobs.
Thanks @PatrickGrehan and @Phil Maronilla
As mentioned, if you are running only one set of wheels, at some point soon, you´ll want donelly (or clement) PDX 33mm tubeless (or another mud thread) 
@jim_nelson @Jim Feehan @Brian Miele @RichardCornetta @ErikPfiffner @Phil Maronilla @Todd McLoughlin @MaxThorn

C'mon peoples!  Go to the cross calendar and put in your preferences.  Even if you're not sure.  Put in No where you're sure you're not going and Maybe if you might want to go.  If we see enough Maybes, maybe we can turn those into Yes.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cfQKqHHIxkW0fTqY62iv2aJWXLkQYuCK8xXJ03qa-KQ/edit#gid=1667795558


Thanks for the reminder, JP. I filled it out.

Swanky Google sheet! Who's responsible? Nicely done. 

Trek not messing around:

^if only
team van!! let’s buy this thing, who’s in?!?

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1998-mauck-msv1120s/

current bid is $1500!!


the doors really make it.
Surely some of you have seen Lucia's post about cyclocross category upgrades.

Mostly, it better matches upgrade points to the field sizes of the north east. If you are a cat 5 or 4, it translates to more chances to upgrade.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/211715905548876/permalink/1832905463429904/

NYC Cross Racers! I'm super excited to announce that NYSBRA will be adopting the revised Cx Upgrade Table that NEBRA announced last week! The practical effect will be that for races with bigger fields, points will go deeper commensurate with field size. This will be effective immediately and apply to races prospectively: for the 2018/19 cx season.

(See the original NEBRA post here explaining rational and Revised Points Table: http://nebra.us/nebra-announces-new-cyclocross-upgrade-gui…/)

All other USAC upgrade rules remain the same (including rules re: # of starters in combined fields). USAC Cx upgrade rules found here: https://s3.amazonaws.com/…/2018_Chapter1_GeneralRegulations… (Rule 1E6.)


I’m meeting Bobby at Cunningham tomorrow (Friday) at 2:30 to go over CX skills for his first race this weekend.  I’ll bring barriers and cones. Maybe water and beer.  Feel free to join us if you want to work on skills. It’s the same field where we held the CX clinic last month. All are welcome
Too early in the afternoon for me.
When are you available?

Phil Maronilla said:
Too early in the afternoon for me.

6pm. Too late. Don't change your time for me.
@""Phil Maronilla" come on man! We can wait for you. Maybe Patrick and I can start for a while and then you can join us when you get there? 
Rapha releases a 2018 "Cross" Collection, featuring among others, Meredith Miller, and former Kissena Dan Chabanov.

https://www.rapha.cc/us/en_US/stories/get-across-it?5071c907a5c32f64a&utm_source=campaignmonitor

Includes this little video... filmed, I'm guessing in Europe, somewhere almost identical to Cunningham.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkmE3EI5INQ
Funny, i watched that this morning and though how much like cunningham it looked, ( with less trash)

Van Aert terminates contract with Veranda's Willems-Crelan

https://www.velonews.com/2018/09/news/with-cross-contract-annulled-wout-van-aert-free-to-join-worldtour_478987
Jules said:
Definitely waiting with anticipation what will he ride for cyclocross, even perhaps at trek this weekend.

He seemed more than willing to stick to his contract, but the team owners had been terrible at managing, negotiating, and specially announcing a merger. Feel terrible for the less notorious riders on the team.