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15 years in a row.

Also... Gilbert...?


eloy said:
We'll never live to see anything like her again.
Apparently KFC rode 11.5 psi
best report from nationals so far...

I think the TV production did a real disservice to the drama of the racing 
I think the TV production did a real disservice to the drama of the racing 
I agree - live coverage is great but the quality of the commentary and the weird decisions around when to show what view really did detract. And I never once saw a time gap on the screen.

Sigh. USA Cycling continues to run like a bunch of dudes in a garage trying something for the first time, as if they've never seen professionals do it.
I thought the commentary was pretty good. Of course, it could be improved, but it is as good as it is gonna get in the US.

The amount of cameras, direction, and camera work has brutal amounts to improve. My guess is that they hire local camera people, which of course don't have any knowledge of the sport or lead players. They could be better guided and directed. Guessing too, that cameras and camera people are expensive, so that's as few as they think they can get away with. 

Considering the conditions, some things worked ok, audio and video did not drop, for example.

A bit of better planning, script, agenda would go a long way.

I am a bit more frustrated with the few elite/pros that are complaining that the conditions were too hard/harsh. Altho, who knows, maybe they have a point -- the course was so destroyed by the time they get to race, the race becomes a sort of free for all.
Eloy
 i agree with everything you say there, i Kind of get what the pros are saying ,i was watching Zonhoven last night and thought occured to me , that if that circuit was in the US , the pros would of been  dealing with a whole different set of conditions and was wondering if that impacts the US riders when racing in europe?
BTW
Although the Zonhoven race lacked real race drama , what a joy it is to watch MVP ride
I thing USAC needs to embrace the things that make US CX special - not fight them in the futile hope it'll somehow become European CX.

Yes, age groupers are going to race first, and fuck up the course for the pros. Those same age groupers are paying for the winners purse, so STFU to the folks who complain. European CX is always there if they get tired of being cheered by the folks who just rode the course.

@Jules you make some very good points. However, can you please clarify STFU...I am unfamiliar with this term.

Love your passion @Jules
@Jules you make some very good points. However, can you please clarify STFU...I am unfamiliar with this term.

Love your passion @Jules
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=stfu
CXNats looks like it was misery and awesome fun. Check out the video of the single speed race

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NwulqpYNHY

Jules said:
@Jules you make some very good points. However, can you please clarify STFU...I am unfamiliar with this term.

Love your passion @Jules
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=stfu
@Joshua Wilson there are some other acronyms you might be interested in

http://www.velominati.com/the-rules/
CXNats looks like it was misery and awesome fun. Check out the video of the single speed race

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NwulqpYNHY

So it was basically the Nittany Swamp for the entire course...
Jules said:
CXNats looks like it was misery and awesome fun. Check out the video of the single speed race

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NwulqpYNHY

So it was basically the Nittany Swamp for the entire course...
I hope it didn't smell the same.
Jules said:
CXNats looks like it was misery and awesome fun. Check out the video of the single speed race

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NwulqpYNHY

So it was basically the Nittany Swamp for the entire course...
If everyone had raced Supercross this year, they would have been prepared.

Myerson and Chabanov both were cut at Supercross and they won their age groups.  Aspholm was second in his to a former world champ and he did great at Supercross. Stacy Barbossa also raced Supercross and won her age group.    The only surprise was that Kerry Werner, second at Supercross couldn't convert his form there to nationals success.

Just sayin'.

FWIW, part of the deal with CX is that different courses yield different results.  This was a particularly muddy year in the northeast, so locals were well-prepared for muck.  Folks who raced in drier conditions were not.  Thems the breaks.  To me, complaining about the course is like Cavendish complaining that a Worlds course is too hilly.


Myles suggested that the elite race conditions might have even been worst than Supercross, as the mud was starting to thicken and get harder by Sunday afternoon.

But no question, Supercross had basically the same conditions, and that having raced there would be an a significant advantage. Once conditions cross a threshold, and supercross and elite nationals were waaaay past it, it becomes a mental game. Having gone thru it, and knowing what to expect is huge, which basically is be ready to suffer running everywhere. Saying it is easy and obvious, but knowing what that looks and feels like is everything.

I'll add Becca Fahringer to the list above. She won her first UCI race at Supercross, and brought it full on Sunday.

“Run everything”




bluntly, the Nittany bog (smell or not) for a full course would be child's play in comparison.
Stybar made his return today at Zolder, to an unremarkable 21st, 2:48 down. Even Hyde had a better finish at 17. Here’s hoping both improve towards worlds.

I was planning on ending my season at Rainey Park (which was loads of fun), but couldn’t help race LICX on Dec 16 and 30th in Sunken Meadow on Long Island. I am so glad I did. 

The course is much better than it was in prior years. Lots of fast, flowy and technical bits. Prior criticisms included the course being full of leaves and the course being taped up primarily through trees. The promoter upped his game and created a course that was better than many I’ve raced this year. I spoke to the promoter Greg who just had twins this year. He plans to have an earlier race next year after Thanksgiving. I encourage you all to give it a shot. Not only because it is a lot of fun, but also because you’ll usually get some good crossresults points which is good for staging next season. 

Bobby Peras was out there on Sunday and had a good race in the 5s. Luckily his family was there as the zipper on my skin suit broke 5 minutes before my start. His wife quickly helped me pin my number to my blue warm up jacket I had in the car. As you can see in the pictures I was having fun. 




Young Nys riding the stairs during the race.

Stybar would finish 17 at the GP Sven Nys, but at least he is having fun

eloy said:
Stybar would finish 17 at the GP Sven Nys, but at least he is having fun

His Start looked promising, 
yeah, noticed he was 3rd at some point. Not sure what happened to move him back.
I dont know about this cyclocross stuff 

Amazing, midair dismount 
This I did not see coming


Alberto Contador racing Spanish CX Champs 👏 https://t.co/AR47EDq9vJ

— Simon Burney (@SimonBurney) December 28, 2018

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Anyone of you CX-type folk available for a weekday morning CX ride in Prospect park sometime next week to meet a potential new member? He races CAT1 MTB and will be upgrading to CAT3 in cyclocross for 2019.
Hot damn! CX worlds is coming back to the US of A in 2022!

https://www.velonews.com/2019/02/news/how-arkansas-got-the-2022-uci-cyclocross-world-championships_483228
Walmart Worlds!