Kissena Forum Archive

Sponsor Deals & Details

1849 comments · 41651 views
Craig, how are we at 4? Including me should make 5. Ian, Dave, you, Eric and me.
No more Eric - didn't want to out him, but there it is.
Thanks to Craig for all the work on the P2M thing. It has turned into a lot of work for what would have been a marginal savings (free chain rings which some people may not even need and which is <10% of cost for the meter). This is the wrong time of year to solicit new sponsorships and this group discount was sort of an interim thing. We can hope that these efforts pave the way for a more legitimate sponsor relationship with P2M next year. In the meantime, let's not wear Craig out on energy inefficient projects. Any P2M purchases will of course be noted in our future sponsorship pitch, so by making a purchase, you are helping the club!

If I've seen any trend on this forum, it's that while power meter enthusiasm is high, sponsorship deals always fall through when it's said and done. Seems kind of pointless, no?
I have a more compelling power meter offer if there is no 10% off. I was willing to come in for the group buy of 10. We could go back and say 10% off for 5 and we're in. But Craig has done enough, so we'll see about the future.
Just to give a shout out to ride Brooklyn who is a sponsor of ours- I got a bike fit from Al B last weekend that was awesome and only cost $120. Not acme prices and while no lasers or videoing were used, I feel much better on the bike.

Also- RE: Powermeters. Just buy a Quarq from RB. You'll get the KCC discount. The quarq is awesome and if you do cross with it (not sure why you would want to destroy such a nice crank) you can still put a 46 or 48 ring on it and be done.
It's important to distinguish between a SPONSOR and a group-rate discount.

Our sponsors are (by and large) multi-year partners interested in helping us grow the club, and benefitting from our broad local reach.

A group deal is just that.  We bought custom bottles through specialized; a group deal.  We have custom team-decals through Veloink; a group deal.  Van Dessel gives us a preferable price - basically a group deal.  You get the idea.

Champion System, Cannondale, Rudy, OSMO, ACME, Ritchey and Ride Brooklyn: SPONSORS.



Jules said:
It's important to distinguish between a SPONSOR and a group-rate discount.

Our sponsors are (by and large) multi-year partners interested in helping us grow the club, and benefitting from our broad local reach.

A group deal is just that.  We bought custom bottles through specialized; a group deal.  We have custom team-decals through Veloink; a group deal.  Van Dessel gives us a preferable price - basically a group deal.  You get the idea.

Champion System, Cannondale, Rudy, OSMO, ACME, Ritchey and Ride Brooklyn: SPONSORS.



Just wanted to echo Jules' comment as well as indicate this was just a group buy which is typically harder to deal with since it requires a number of people to have similar a similar time frame for making the purchase. In this case, a powermeter isn't a simple impulse purchase for most. I do aim to have a power meter vendor become a sponsor  which will allow for purchases to be made through-out the year without having to coordinate everyone's purchase.
This is great !  But anyone who claims a power meter is not a simple impulse purchase has never heard of the Powercal.
Don't know the particulars of getting a sponsor going....but these guys seem amenable....bb's and pulleys and such...

http://www.vcrcbike.com/Articles.asp?ID=143

From a USA Cycling tweet. I like this idea:

USA Cycling Juniors @USACjuniors 5h

#ToDoTuesday Know your sponsors addresses and plan on sending postcards throughout the year. Its difficult hanging an email up in a cubicle!


I am had an eerily similar experience there...much the same advice about leaning to one side and being moved way back on the bike & getting a shim.  Stretch now...you don't want knee problems later in life.  My right knee is pulp and I train around it now the best I can.  I will say one thing about the fit, since I have been so focused on the knee I forgot that my lower back had also been an issue on long rides.  Saturday was my 1st long ride since the fit and my back was 100% pain free for 3 hours.   The fit was certainly the best money I've ever spent as I know that  am no longer doing damage to my body due to fit issues...the damage know is from overuse/not stretching/age.  I can manage 2 out of 3...unless I go all Benjamin Button.  
Warning No formatter is installed for the format not-found
Do we have a shoe sponsor right now or deals through Ride Brooklyn? I remember last year there was talk of Lake deals/discounts. Anything current we can use. Looking for some new road shoes bc my Sidis are too narrow.
Details on 2014 sponsorships are in the doc on the lefthand side of the forum.

No shoe sponsors.

I picked up new shoes at ride and they took care of me.
What'd you get? Curious
I know this is not a survey but....shimano
I'm loving my Giros. RB carries them. This year's Prolights come in orange... just sayin'.

I got the Giro factors. Ride has a lot in stock. They fit really well and have these removable arch supports (low,medium,high) the Jon Blyer thinks will help with some of my knee issues a bit. 
A reminder that you should not discuss the discounts the club receives with others, in particular at other shops or with others in the bike biz. There hasn't been any recent issue to prompt the reminder but I want to make sure we don't cause an issue unwittingly that would make it harder for us to renew one of our existing sponsor deals for next year. For example, it's ok to say the team is sponsored by Cannondale but not ok to say we get X% off of bikes or frames.

On a separate note, when possible please shop with our sponsors and partners. It goes a long way to showing them we appreciate what they do for us and reinforces the value of the sponsorship with Kissena.

When considering a purchase of parts, bikes, accessories, please think to ask Ride Brooklyn if they can help you out. If you find a big ticket item elsewhere, check with Ride and see if they can match the price. Sometimes they can and sometimes they cant. (And don't say you are a higher category than you are to get a higher discount. That will come back to bite you and the club).

Also, if there is a large demand as a group for, say SRAM parts, group, brakes, chain, cassettes, etc. Ride may be able to organize a group purchase to facilitate and get better discounts than we would otherwise. Let me know if there is interest in SRAM parts and I may be able to organize something.

Thanks - Craig

Craig,

What is the deal with Ritchey? I would like to purchase one of their forks but I was told at RB that it was only available through a group buy from us.

Thierry Bonnaire - The Ritchey deal is changing to a group buy / aggregated order scenario, however RB and I don't know all the details. From what I understand, It'll be one order per quarter. That is about the extent of the information I have at this time. If you can message me with the part you want I'll begin to create a shared doc with people's order requests.
Craig...do you know where I get my snazzy orange helmet ?  size medium....

@Craig

Thank you, I will message you privately about the part.

I'm not racing in a white helmet and...............
Hey,

Any news on Challenge tires. I'm in the market for race tires but would hold off a while longer if there was the possibility of something on the horizon.

Keep up the awesome job.
Thanks
@twoyacks - helmets are on back order until May.

Andrew Da Silva - We passed on the Challenge tires for their road season program. It was a very low discount with too many other requirements. We are still in touch and will see what we can do for cross season. I'd recommend going to RB or giving them a call about what you want. They carry quite a few brands. I'd offer up to do a group buy for tires but everyone seems to have their preference and it would likely be mayhem.
About the helmets.  This fluo orange thing- I have a bit of problem with it.

I suppose that the order that is being placed can include black and white helmet options too? Or at the very least just the neutral white option?

I hate to be a whiny moaner and to come across as a bit of a brat, going against the grain, but I feel relatively strongly on this matter for multiple reasons.

Sorry to be a douche about this!  
Hells NO ! Orange Crush or nothing...they quite literally help during races. You can always see a teammate in a break.